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Post by wbosh15 on Mar 22, 2022 11:54:36 GMT -8
Is it wrong of me to say it was a down year for Pac-12 womens basketball and with the exception of one team , Stanford it basically sucked.
Any theories on why so many teams were missing so many pieces?
UCLA was injured all year. Zona lost their best player in the last 20 years and then their best player this year tore her shoulder with two weeks to go. Oregon just massively underachieved for their talent level (IMO). Has Graves ever had a good year without either Vandersloot/Sabrina? Oregon State didnt' have the talent at guard and then lost their starting/all-pac-12 center. WSU is just not built to compete at the highest level unless the Walker sisters are hot. Utah is good but just got beat by a better team in the tourney. Colorado was most likely just happy to be in the Tournament.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 22, 2022 12:16:35 GMT -8
To address 1 item from the post above, Graves' best years at Gonzaga were with Vandersloot, especially Tourney performances, but he dominated the WCC for a decade. I would have to say "yes" as far as having good years w/out his star PG at GU. But the point stands for his Oregon tenure thus far.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 22, 2022 13:16:23 GMT -8
Is it wrong of me to say it was a down year for Pac-12 womens basketball and with the exception of one team , Stanford it basically sucked.
Any theories on why so many teams were missing so many pieces?
Stanford had it's issues as well. Their advantage is their depth, 3 or 4 players could have bad games but there are plenty of could be starters on their bench.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 22, 2022 13:42:17 GMT -8
To address 1 item from the post above, Graves' best years at Gonzaga were with Vandersloot, especially Tourney performances, but he dominated the WCC for a decade. I would have to say "yes" as far as having good years w/out his star PG at GU. But the point stands for his Oregon tenure thus far. Weird... a coach's best seasons are worth the best player in school history!? Hmmmm
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Post by bvrbooster on Mar 22, 2022 14:45:17 GMT -8
Is it wrong of me to say it was a down year for Pac-12 womens basketball and with the exception of one team , Stanford it basically sucked.
Any theories on why so many teams were missing so many pieces?
That's an accurate statement in my opinion. Other than Stanford, the perennial conference powers - OSU, UCLA, and Oregon - all underperformed badly. This allowed Utah and Colorado to overperform and get in the tournament, but they're not good enough to go anywhere from there. Washington State, the last few years, is just good enough to get in, but not good enough to do better than (maybe) win one game. The monster recruiting classes coming into the conference, combined with injured players returning, should right the ship next year.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 22, 2022 15:45:44 GMT -8
To address 1 item from the post above, Graves' best years at Gonzaga were with Vandersloot, especially Tourney performances, but he dominated the WCC for a decade. I would have to say "yes" as far as having good years w/out his star PG at GU. But the point stands for his Oregon tenure thus far. Weird... a coach's best seasons are worth the best player in school history!? Hmmmm Of course that intuitively makes sense. But the point was Gonzaga was quite successful both before and after the Sloot years. Oregon has been significantly underachieving the last 2 seasons and have been fairly mediocre.
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Post by sparty on Mar 22, 2022 18:18:43 GMT -8
Weird... a coach's best seasons are worth the best player in school history!? Hmmmm Of course that intuitively makes sense. But the point was Gonzaga was quite successful both before and after the Sloot years. Oregon has been significantly underachieving the last 2 seasons and have been fairly mediocre. And have we underachieved or are we right where we should be?
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 22, 2022 19:24:59 GMT -8
Didn't see any mention of this
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 22, 2022 19:26:24 GMT -8
Of course that intuitively makes sense. But the point was Gonzaga was quite successful both before and after the Sloot years. Oregon has been significantly underachieving the last 2 seasons and have been fairly mediocre. And have we underachieved or are we right where we should be? I'm in the glass half empty camp, OSU has been underachieving as well. Really haven't been impressed w/ the way the program is trending ever since the 15-0 start to the '19-'20 season. Barely over .500 in 2 1/2 seasons since then.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 22, 2022 19:27:58 GMT -8
Didn't see any mention of this I was watching that game, that was impressive. 3rd dunk of her career.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 25, 2022 20:09:51 GMT -8
Stanford was killing Maryland, then fell apart in the 4th quarter. Still held on, but not a good way to finish. Brink had avoided foul trouble in the Tourney until tonight. Seems like she was barely on the court in the 2nd half. One foul was a flop by the defender, another Reese lowered her shoulder and plowed into Brink hard enough to knock the wind out of her, but they called it a block. So, refs screwed her over. I'm kinda nervous about their rematch w/ Texas. Horns play nasty defense, Furd didn't handle pressure from Maryland late in the game well at all. Wilson was a big detriment on offense, no scoring, bad decision making, just got in the way at times.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 26, 2022 9:51:25 GMT -8
Notre Dame fell apart in Q4, NC State squeaked by them. While she's not her sister, many probably will not be heartbroken that Dara Mabrey got her pocket picked by Raina Perez for what turned out to be the game winning bucket.
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Post by grad1973 on Mar 26, 2022 10:27:39 GMT -8
NWHOOPSFAN somehow I think we are related!
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 26, 2022 12:24:57 GMT -8
I couldn't bear to watch much of it. Indiana got off to a good start, then just completely fell apart and were getting rolled by UConn.
Big 10 got a ton of teams into the Tourney, quite a few to the Sweet 16...but getting smoked this round. Michigan is their last hope to get a single team to the Elite 8. For all the hype all year long about being the best conference, it's really not looking like it now.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 26, 2022 14:33:32 GMT -8
Hailey Van Lith and company took care of Tennessee, Louisville advanced.
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