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Post by greybeav on Mar 14, 2022 22:08:29 GMT -8
A back up PG would be a help, but what I'm not sure about is the 3. I hope that Gardiner is up for it, but if not then if TVO is the PG they need a starting three to take Greta's job after she moves to the two. The plan was, before Sasha wandered off, for Greta to be the SG so if that works out then someone needs to be the new three. This points out something I am starting to learn, how a HS player is used by her coach in HS vs her college coach. In some cases the HS coach really missed the mark, or so it appears, or maybe just needed that player for a different role. I watched Lily H. basically play forward or even post on defense, often the tallest on the court at only 6'2" with a 6'5" reach though, blocking lots of shots. I think she was under utilized on offense in HS, but Timea G. had more freedom to use her whole skill set. I'm excited to see what the OSU staff will do with all 4 of them. I appreciate how much I'm learning from guys like Beaveragain and the rest of you.
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Post by grad1973 on Mar 14, 2022 22:21:18 GMT -8
Players with great handles but below average speed struggle to break down defenders. All perimeter players have to at least have decent speed to play at this level. It's a big plus to have a strong skill set along with better than average speed. I doubt that any coach in the U.S. would agree that speed and quickness is not something they want in backcourt players. What was the main asset that the Wilson girl had for the ability to shut down our perimeter players.? If speed wasn’t one of them what was? When it comes to defense pure athletic ability is what you need. That is primarily why Scott ran zones our match ups on the perimeter were not good man to man.
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Post by lotrader on Mar 15, 2022 5:48:16 GMT -8
Players with great handles but below average speed struggle to break down defenders. All perimeter players have to at least have decent speed to play at this level. It's a big plus to have a strong skill set along with better than average speed. I doubt that any coach in the U.S. would agree that speed and quickness is not something they want in backcourt players. Agreed, didn't mean to infer speed isn't an attribute a coach would like to have in any of their perimeter players. Take for example the freshman point guard for Texas. That young woman has made Texas a force. She has all the attributes, handles, quickness, speed, court vision, and can break down a defender, pull-up or get to the rim and convert. That is the kind of guard (or two) OSU needs to locate in the portal.
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Post by rmancarl on Mar 15, 2022 9:57:54 GMT -8
A back up PG would be a help, but what I'm not sure about is the 3. I hope that Gardiner is up for it, but if not then if TVO is the PG they need a starting three to take Greta's job after she moves to the two. The plan was, before Sasha wandered off, for Greta to be the SG so if that works out then someone needs to be the new three. This leads to an entirely new topic.......the way way way way too early starting lineup next season. If the Beavs were to lose nobody (except Taya), and gain nobody (other than the four recruits), then you are most likely looking at Taylor and Jelena as your post, Kennedy and Raegan as your PF, and Timea and AJ as your 3. Right now, I think this is the best position on the floor for AJ, and Lily might be able to provide minutes, but the question is, is this the best spot for Timea? She's either in a log jam at the 2, or the possible starter at 3. I'll be the first to say I haven't watched enough of her game to know for sure what to expect from her at the 3 in the Pac12. Of course, if the Beavs don't add anyone, that leaves Talia with only Noelle as a backup, and Greta with AJ and Adlee as possible backups..................And all of this assumes Taya doesn't return. If she does, the log jam up front becomes even bigger. I think this all shows that experience in the backcourt needs to be addressed through the transfer portal, but the front court has a decent mix of experience and youth. Add a PG, or even a combp guard and Talia and Greta have your first shot at the 2-3 spots. It is way too early to spend much time thinking about this stuff. Once the team is settled later this summer, it will be a fun discussion on what the 2 deep looks like.
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Post by grayman on Mar 15, 2022 11:02:27 GMT -8
I would assume that Hansford might be a good fit at the 3....also been thinking about the possibility of Rueck trying Greta at the point (at least in a backup capacity)...she seems to have enough quickness and a good enough handle to play there. Not saying Rueck should or will go in that direction, just thinking....Any thoughts?
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Post by grad1973 on Mar 15, 2022 15:02:58 GMT -8
I would assume that Hansford might be a good fit at the 3....also been thinking about the possibility of Rueck trying Greta at the point (at least in a backup capacity)...she seems to have enough quickness and a good enough handle to play there. Not saying Rueck should or will go in that direction, just thinking....Any thoughts? She was the first guard he tried with when Talia was struggling at the top of key with pressure. He went on to a combo of adams and Talia then went with codding and Adams-and Talia. He never abandoned Talia really. There were some games we had nobody to handle the other teams pressure. Stanford being one. Or teams that could set double traps really well like we will See with Long Beach st
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Post by grayman on Mar 15, 2022 15:55:25 GMT -8
OK...I missed some of the games early on and did not know Rueck had already tried her there...thanks. I assume when you say that Rueck never really abandoned TVO that you mean she often ran the offense in half court sets. OK, but I can't get past the fact that he was expecting other players to deal with the pressure and get the offense going once the ball is past midcourt...that's just too much of what a point guard does. I just think that the assumption by some that the Beavers are going to move forward with TVO as the main option at PG just doesn't pass the smell test since Rueck did largely move away from her. If she is the PG next season and plays at a high level, that would be great and I'll be happy to admit I was wrong.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Mar 16, 2022 20:09:20 GMT -8
Taya Hanson is transferring from ASU. Her stats have never been great, but she scored 17 and 18 in their two games against OSU this year.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 18, 2022 19:03:14 GMT -8
Not that any are high profile players, but Washington is bleeding players like crazy. 1 left midseason, I think 4 have now entered the portal since the season ended.
Marotte was originally 1 of 5 players committed to UW in the '21 class. ALL of them are gone now. Plus at least 2 from their '20 class. Langley better get to work quick, or her tenure is gonna look not discernibly different than Wynn's.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Mar 19, 2022 9:26:55 GMT -8
She was great against OSU earlier this year:
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Post by beavsteve on Mar 19, 2022 9:40:24 GMT -8
She was great against OSU earlier this year: I'd rather have their point guard (#3). She made their offense click... high energy, good ball-handling, great passing.
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Post by rmancarl on Mar 19, 2022 9:55:09 GMT -8
Harper is a smart shooter with a great FG%. Her 3pt shot dropped off a bit this year. Good rebounder. She can score, which is what the Beavs need. A guard is probably a bigger priority. Caitlyn has 2 more years. I'd be excited to see her come to Corvallis, but it's so early. There are going to be a lot of players entering the portal these next few weeks.
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Post by ricke71 on Mar 19, 2022 9:59:40 GMT -8
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 19, 2022 10:02:53 GMT -8
Harper is a smart shooter with a great FG%. Her 3pt shot dropped off a bit this year. Good rebounder. She can score, which is what the Beavs need. A guard is probably a bigger priority. Caitlyn has 2 more years. I'd be excited to see her come to Corvallis, but it's so early. There are going to be a lot of players entering the portal these next few weeks. It will be a juggling act. As more and more players come out they will have time to make their decisions, and schools will have to decide who to offer and accept. Which players could fill a need or do you wait and see if a special player becomes available and then actually selects you. It's a different type of recruiting for sure. Plus mid tier players entering aren't assured a return to their former team if a offer they like doesn't appear, or isn't a full ride. Even if they are allowed a return a scholly can be reduced or eliminated by the school. I've never seen data on the number of players that enter then return to their school, and how their benefit was affected.
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Post by grad1973 on Mar 19, 2022 12:43:40 GMT -8
Looks promising to me. Some of our woes would be over tommarow with those two. I hope we try to get in on that anchorage point guard though. Severs
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