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Post by irimi on Feb 20, 2022 19:25:43 GMT -8
I fully expect when Howard gets fired there will be someone here or on the Pure Orange Facebook page suggesting we hire him. If he'd agree to put on a straight jacket at the end of every game he'd still be a decent coach for someone. Not sure how this will play out with his recruiting reputation? Ewww. Guys like that think they are above reproach. Gotta treat them like the princesses they are. Ewwww
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Post by fridaynightlights on Feb 20, 2022 22:49:14 GMT -8
I don't have an opinion on the matter, but from what I have read I don't think he will be fired. A suspension and fine is more likely. I think the jury is still out on how good of coach he is, last season Michigan was 23 - 5 (14 - 3 conference) won the Big 10 and went to the Elite 8. This is his 3rd year and they have been a bit of a disappointment 14 - 11 (8 - 7 in conference) I wonder if WT will bring up this incident in his post season interview/discussion with Barnes. When defending his record this season, he may say something like... "I know we sucked this season, but at least I didn't take a swing at an opposing coach"
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Post by speakthetruth on Feb 21, 2022 9:23:14 GMT -8
The Wisconsin coach started the mess by calling an unnecessary, unsportsmanlike timeout followed by a more unnecessary, more unsportmanslike punch/slap by the Michigan coach.
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Post by lebaneaver on Feb 21, 2022 9:44:11 GMT -8
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Post by beaver94 on Feb 21, 2022 9:44:26 GMT -8
The Wisconsin coach started the mess by calling an unnecessary, unsportsmanlike timeout followed by a more unnecessary, more unsportmanslike punch/slap by the Michigan coach. From everything I’ve read, Howard was still running a full court press at the end of the game. The Wisconsin coach called timeout to reset the 10 second counter to help advance the ball. If Howard doesn’t want them to call a timeout, then he shouldn’t be running a press. The Wisconsin coach should have let Howard go by in the line, but that’s no excuse for what Howard did. He wasn’t even the one Howard hit. Howard’s press conference after the game, not taking any responsibility, is probably the worst part of the whole thing.
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Post by speakthetruth on Feb 21, 2022 9:48:20 GMT -8
The Wisconsin coach started the mess by calling an unnecessary, unsportsmanlike timeout followed by a more unnecessary, more unsportmanslike punch/slap by the Michigan coach. From everything I’ve read, Howard was still running a full court press at the end of the game. The Wisconsin coach called timeout to reset the 10 second counter to help advance the ball. If Howard doesn’t want them to call a timeout, then he shouldn’t be running a press. The Wisconsin coach should have let Howard go by in the line, but that’s no excuse for what Howard did. He wasn’t even the one Howard hit. Howard’s press conference after the game, not taking any responsibility, is probably the worst part of the whole thing. Wisconsin was up by 15 with 15 seconds left absolutely no reason for a timeout. How about if in football team is up by two touchdowns with 15 seconds left and the offense decides to throw a bomb.
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Post by beaver94 on Feb 21, 2022 9:52:35 GMT -8
From everything I’ve read, Howard was still running a full court press at the end of the game. The Wisconsin coach called timeout to reset the 10 second counter to help advance the ball. If Howard doesn’t want them to call a timeout, then he shouldn’t be running a press. The Wisconsin coach should have let Howard go by in the line, but that’s no excuse for what Howard did. He wasn’t even the one Howard hit. Howard’s press conference after the game, not taking any responsibility, is probably the worst part of the whole thing. Wisconsin was up by 15 with 15 seconds left absolutely no reason for a timeout. How about if in football team is up by two touchdowns with 15 seconds left and the offense decides to throw a bomb. Also absolutely no reason to be pressing.
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Post by beaverinohio on Feb 21, 2022 10:06:24 GMT -8
The Wisconsin coach started the mess by calling an unnecessary, unsportsmanlike timeout followed by a more unnecessary, more unsportmanslike punch/slap by the Michigan coach. If Howard wants the other team to play like the game is over then he shouldn’t be running full court, man-to-man pressure. If you’re not willing to call off the dogs and continue to play like the game is in question, then don’t piss and moan when the other coach does the same and calls a timeout to avoid a turnover. Regardless, Howard’s reaction was well beyond justified. And this isn’t the first time that Howard has been involved in a dust up with the opposing team. In the BIG tournament last year, he went after the Maryland coach and reportedly yelled “I’ll f’ing kill you. I think what is most telling about that incident was how long he fought against the guys holding him back. I don’t know if he should be fired. I’d be leaning that direction if I was in charge, but if UM wants too keep him fine. But the conference should suspend him for the year and let him know that he’s on a short leash when it comes to this kind of behavior. Two blow ups in the span of a year is out of control.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 21, 2022 10:07:58 GMT -8
From everything I’ve read, Howard was still running a full court press at the end of the game. The Wisconsin coach called timeout to reset the 10 second counter to help advance the ball. If Howard doesn’t want them to call a timeout, then he shouldn’t be running a press. The Wisconsin coach should have let Howard go by in the line, but that’s no excuse for what Howard did. He wasn’t even the one Howard hit. Howard’s press conference after the game, not taking any responsibility, is probably the worst part of the whole thing. Wisconsin was up by 15 with 15 seconds left absolutely no reason for a timeout. How about if in football team is up by two touchdowns with 15 seconds left and the offense decides to throw a bomb. Absolute BS. Calling a timeout to settle down your scrubs, who are struggling against an unnecessary full-court press from an opponent in the final 30 seconds, in no way equates to attempting to score by throwing a bomb. It's a ridiculous comparison. Here's the best video I've seen of it. Howard doesn't even look the Wisconsin coach in the eye in the handshake line. Turn up the sound so you can hear Howard repeatedly swearing at the Wisconsin coach. This is all on Howard, and it's not his first rodeo.
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 21, 2022 10:08:31 GMT -8
Took exception to a timeout called by Wisconsin with 15 seconds left and threw a right hand at the Wisconsin coach in post-game handshakes. Probably won't have a job in the morning.
Well it's not like he tripped a cheerleader or anything.
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Post by spudbeaver on Feb 21, 2022 11:00:30 GMT -8
The Wisconsin coach started the mess by calling an unnecessary, unsportsmanlike timeout followed by a more unnecessary, more unsportmanslike punch/slap by the Michigan coach. Wrong. Read more.
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Post by speakthetruth on Feb 21, 2022 11:22:07 GMT -8
I'm not justifying Howard's actions or his response afterward. And my comparison concerning throwing a bomb wasn't on but how about this for a football comparison. Your team is up by 15 with 15 seconds to go. You can snap the ball and be done but your right guard and tackle aren't sure what to do so you call a timeout. I just don't think a timeout at that point in the game was necessary whether the other team was pressing, continuing to foul, etc...
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Post by irimi on Feb 21, 2022 11:47:58 GMT -8
From everything I’ve read, Howard was still running a full court press at the end of the game. The Wisconsin coach called timeout to reset the 10 second counter to help advance the ball. If Howard doesn’t want them to call a timeout, then he shouldn’t be running a press. The Wisconsin coach should have let Howard go by in the line, but that’s no excuse for what Howard did. He wasn’t even the one Howard hit. Howard’s press conference after the game, not taking any responsibility, is probably the worst part of the whole thing. Wisconsin was up by 15 with 15 seconds left absolutely no reason for a timeout. How about if in football team is up by two touchdowns with 15 seconds left and the offense decides to throw a bomb. Coach said he had his reserves in there. Didn’t want them to get overwhelmed. Game is until the final whistle is blown, unless the losing team gives up. Michigan didn’t give up, so why shouldn’t Wisconsin take a timeout? Coach is reading the situation and trying to put his players in a position to be successful in the future. Screw Howard for taking offense.
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Post by irimi on Feb 21, 2022 11:50:22 GMT -8
It’s well after noon their time now, so clearly U Mich is not going to do the right thing. I think every team playing Michigan from here on out ought to save a timeout for the 15 second mark of the game. Let’s see Howard go bananas.
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 21, 2022 15:53:06 GMT -8
Wisconsin was up by 15 with 15 seconds left absolutely no reason for a timeout. How about if in football team is up by two touchdowns with 15 seconds left and the offense decides to throw a bomb. Coach said he had his reserves in there. Didn’t want them to get overwhelmed. Game is until the final whistle is blown, unless the losing team gives up. Michigan didn’t give up, so why shouldn’t Wisconsin take a timeout? Coach is reading the situation and trying to put his players in a position to be successful in the future. Screw Howard for taking offense. Plus they were inbounding with 4 seconds remaining on a 10 second backcourt count. If you call time-out, the count resets to 10. That's why Wisconsin's coach called the time-out.
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