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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 5, 2022 17:15:42 GMT -8
My thoughts. Kliavkoff just displayed putrid leadership. Absolutely putrid, bulls%#t, facepalming indescribably stupid, braindead chickens%#t leadership. He just showed going outside the box isn't necessarily the answer. he just showed his corporate roots, and how he has zero experience with football and conference leadership. This was him covering his own ass, because I now have the very real sneaking suspicion he has done a tremendously s%#tty job in securing future TV contracts and is getting on his blame issuing PR tour about why he couldn't get the job done. This isn't f%#*ing dominos... you don't do the "yes, we admit we suck, but now we are better" marketing routine with college football. You DON'T play directly INTO the dialogue. You don't accept that 0-5 is your albatross and go, yeah, we are terrible. you promote, like f%#*ing mad, the positives even if the net was 0-5. Your job is to pump sunshine up every single human ass and sell the conference. Jesus. Utah lost... but it was one helluva game. probably the best Rose Bowl in years. You talk about just how f%#*ing entertaining that game was. Because even though Utah lost, it was a great game. You talk about how the back up QB came in after Rising was concussed and drove them down the field after previously not throwing a pass in a game before! you talk about how the Cougs came out and gave CMU a hard second half and nearly pulled that one off. You job is to promote. Yes, the hard truth is the Pac-12 sucked on the bottom line. but we know it. we all know it. You don't have to say it... you have to PROMOTE what was great. Pac-12 plays exciting football. Pac-12 did provide some damn good games. Get your ass on Reddit sometime and look at all the "Pac-12 after dark chaos" memes. Fans love it. Honest to god the craziness of the dog eat dog nature of the Pac-12 is something people like to watch. play to what you got. at the end of the day, people want to watch good games. Pac-12 still gives you good games. they still give you excitement and chaos and unpredictability. Jesus. Fire this asshat already. Mark my words, when any future details come out about Pac-12 media deals, and they are utter garbage... remember this day. the Day Kliavkoff admitted he is a f%#*ing loser. All we are going to get for the next few years is the Pac-12 selling USC hand over fist and shoving them down our throats. f%#*. I challenge you to read the interview again. Tell me what you disagree with, because I agree with nearly everything he says. I just don't getcthe negative response here. And really one need be overly sensitive to perceive his comments as overtly negative when they are simply factual, and he lays out sound logic why the Pac 12 has struggled, and what he thinks needs to be done to fix it. The dude was hired to sell the Pac-12. That's his f#*king job. Negotiate on the Pac-12's behalf, and improve and sell the Pac-12. The dude just got done watching an instant classic Rose Bowl, best or second best bowl game of the year. And he ignores the positive. Instead, we get what a hole the guy's in. We get how bad his product is. It's like a new CEO being hired at McDonald's and then him badmouthing the Big Mac. It is like he has no clue what his job is. Wendy's fries were trash. Now, they have ads out about how great their new, improved fries are. They are not saying that their old fries are trash. Everyone gets that. We want that it's fixed. A real salesman could sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman in white gloves. What he's doing is politicking. He is saying what a terrible job the last guy did. See, me being incompetent and doing nothing is not so bad. That's politics. It is not what he was hired to do. He was hired to sell, and he is failing miserably at it. If someone else wants to badmouth the Pac-12, so be it. They aren't on the payroll. We are paying this guy to badmouth the Pac-12. Money that you spend on the Beavers and their product is going to this loser. The revenue that could be helping to pay for a new and improved West Side is lining this guy's pockets. My from-the-hip thoughts. Terrible. Terrible hire. This guy's the best that we can do? If so, we are in serious trouble.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jan 5, 2022 17:47:22 GMT -8
It isn't about being offended. that is not what is at stake. What is at stake is billion of dollars on the table in media rights and licensing. You don't convince contract negotiators to sign to your terms by telling everybody how s%#tty you are! He was not hired to do an audit of how bad we suck. We didn't put him in place to go sprinkling around "truth bombs" and open everybody's eyes up to how far the Pac-12 is slipping. WE KNOW IT IS! His job is to convince people it isn't what it seems and THEN go off and be the change he wants to see. He is there to raise our national profile not lower it. Somebody else said it. He said the quiet part out loud. That is the s%#t you throw at the 12 presidents behind close doors when you are planning how you are going to right this ship. It is not the things you rant and rave about in an open media session. You didn't help convince Fox they really need to consider more Pac-12 games on the flag ship channel at 1PM, instead of FS1 at 7:30 there, bub... Because, FYI, those contracts expire in two seasons... that is not "long term". but guess what, so does the Big-10 and the Big-12. What is REALLY on the table is after the 23-24 season, CBS loses their exclusive SEC deal to ESPN. one of the more ideal, and lucrative opportunities is for Pac-12 to land a CBS deal. But of course we could be competing with the Big-10 and Big-12 if ESPN/FOX doesn't not up their game. It seems likely one of those two will be left off the ESPN list, given that ESPN is gaining SEC in 2024... for 2024 broadcasting rights on CBS, it is shaping up to be the Pac-12 vs the loser of the Big-10/Big-12 ESPN rights signer. Anyways, publicly ranting about how much we suck does not help establish our case to have CBS broadcast our games. We are currently a second tier FOX league.. the guys that fill in when the Big-12 slate sucks that week. We have the opportunity to be a top tier CBS league. This little piss and moan session isn't the sort of thing that helps you get there. I would have probably agreed with you before the days of "playoff" D-1 football when there was a strong case for the Pac 10/12 images rightful place to be higher than it was perceived outside the west. Now, as you aptly point out in your own post, that ship has sailed. There is no hiding what we currently are, the results speak for them self very loud and clear. BYU for crying out loud was essentially the P12 Champ this year. It's not just our image that's slipped, our product, on field performance, and results have all declined in respect to the competition nationally. I don't think any serious negotiator involving big dollars is going to be fooled into making a better offer due to some positive talk. Simple facts are these, live attendance, viewership numbers, potential viewership numbers, internal investment, and location (timezone) will be the main negotiating points. A declining youth football participation rate across the west is an unfortunate trend which may also strongly suggest "potential viewers" or blue sky are not there.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jan 5, 2022 18:09:53 GMT -8
Laughable. No. How's that for calling a spade a spade? The Mountain West went 6-5 against the Pac-12, but the Pac-12 outscored the Mountain West by 61 points. The Pac-12 outscored the Mountain West by 123 points in 10 games in 2019. I mean, if you go back to 2013, the Pac-12 was 12-1, and the only loss was Wazzu blowing a 15-point lead with less than three minutes left to Colorado State at the New Mexico Bowl. This year, Wazzu blew a 23-11 lead with less than six minutes left. Fresno State beat UCLA on a 13-yard touchdown pass with 14 seconds left. San Diego State beat Utah by two in triple overtime courtesy of college football's mind-numbingly stupid overtime rules. The Pac-12 blows out Mountain West teams by and large, and the Mountain West teams that win win in squeakers. San Diego State beat Arizona by 24, and Utah State beat Oregon State by 11. But the other four wins were by a combined 13 points. On the other side of the ledger, only Oregon's win (7) was by less than 18. You can make the case that the Mountain West has closed the gap, but the gap is still there, my friend. 6-5 is a winning record vs the Pac no matter what the margin of victory is, a W is a W and an L is an L. If we included BYU's record vs the Pac it gets even worse. This conference is hard to defend right now. Maybe it's time we gave oregon the boot and conference wide we stopped recruiting players who make life altering decisions based on uniforms as a start.
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Post by sparty on Jan 5, 2022 18:26:13 GMT -8
Laughable. No. How's that for calling a spade a spade? The Mountain West went 6-5 against the Pac-12, but the Pac-12 outscored the Mountain West by 61 points. The Pac-12 outscored the Mountain West by 123 points in 10 games in 2019. I mean, if you go back to 2013, the Pac-12 was 12-1, and the only loss was Wazzu blowing a 15-point lead with less than three minutes left to Colorado State at the New Mexico Bowl. This year, Wazzu blew a 23-11 lead with less than six minutes left. Fresno State beat UCLA on a 13-yard touchdown pass with 14 seconds left. San Diego State beat Utah by two in triple overtime courtesy of college football's mind-numbingly stupid overtime rules. The Pac-12 blows out Mountain West teams by and large, and the Mountain West teams that win win in squeakers. San Diego State beat Arizona by 24, and Utah State beat Oregon State by 11. But the other four wins were by a combined 13 points. On the other side of the ledger, only Oregon's win (7) was by less than 18. You can make the case that the Mountain West has closed the gap, but the gap is still there, my friend. 6-5 is a winning record vs the Pac no matter what the margin of victory is, a W is a W and an L is an L. If we included BYU's record vs the Pac it gets even worse. This conference is hard to defend right now. Maybe it's time we gave oregon the boot and conference wide we stopped recruiting players who make life altering decisions based on uniforms as a start. Donors are going to stop being so cheap and open their wallets further. The athletic department department needs a lot more money than what they are being provide with right now. Plain and simple and academia needs to understand without the athletic department their own funding dries up.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 5, 2022 21:02:35 GMT -8
Why would one even consider including BYU's record in a discussion about the MWC vs. the Pac-12? BYU hasn't been a member of the MWC since the 2010 season. Heading into the 2020 season, the Pac-12 was 114-58 all-time vs. the MWC. Every single Pac-12 team has a winning record vs. the MWC. This year's losing record vs. the MWC, which barely moved the all-time needle, is clearly an outlier. mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/pac12/mountainwest.shtmlBYU was 15-21 vs. the Pac-12 all-time before this year and had lost eight in a row to Utah. The stars aligned for the Cougars this year.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jan 5, 2022 21:06:15 GMT -8
I'm gonna summarize his comments in the article.
Kliavkoff Comments: - We (the Pac 12) have a lot of work to do (Truth), then cites numerous issues, some out of our control; Covid (restrictive states - Truth). Teams played limited schedules in 20-month period competing against teams that played near full schedules (Truth). Youth and HS participation rates have dropped significantly on the WC (Truth). Media rights deal (Absolute Truth) which he commits to Pac 12 fans to fix (Fantastic!). We have to improve recruiting and keeping 4- and 5-star recruits in our footprint at our schools (Truth).
Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over the Pac 12 and the prior guy, only us fans can s%#t on Larry Scott!
Kliavkoff states it's a misconception Pac 12 presidents and chancellors don't care about football, then states historically the conference has done very well in football and basketball:
Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over the current state of the Pac 12!
Kliavkoff discusses reducing conference schedule to 8 games and doing away with scheduling 12 years in advance to create better interconference matchups and increase exposure
Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over tradition!
Kliavkoff credits USC for letting go of Helton early which led to making the biggest coaching hire in the country and nobody in the country did a better job hiring.
Beaverfan: OMG USC s%#t all over Helton
Kliavkoff loves the Rose Bowl and insists the Pac 12 is not going to give up its relationship.
Beaverfan: OMG He is s%#tting all over the...wait, what did he say?
Kliavkoff critizes how the Pac 12 was not really involved with initial CFP expansion plan and no, that's not going to work, we are going to be part of that discussion.
Beaverfan: OMG HE IS AN IDIOT!
So in summary, dude spoke positively of the future of Pac 12 football, and a few comments that can be perceived as slighting the Pac 12, all of which are absolute truth and again, mostly all of which has been bantered about here and throughout the conference. Kliavkoff is simply stating facts, how the Pac 12 needs to address them, and what his roll will be in to achieve that, which he is confident he can achieve. I really don't get how this interview triggered any Beaver fan.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 5, 2022 22:55:10 GMT -8
I'm gonna summarize his comments in the article. Kliavkoff Comments: - We (the Pac 12) have a lot of work to do (Truth), then cites numerous issues, some out of our control; Covid (restrictive states - Truth). Teams played limited schedules in 20-month period competing against teams that played near full schedules (Truth). Youth and HS participation rates have dropped significantly on the WC (Truth). Media rights deal (Absolute Truth) which he commits to Pac 12 fans to fix (Fantastic!). We have to improve recruiting and keeping 4- and 5-star recruits in our footprint at our schools (Truth). Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over the Pac 12 and the prior guy, only us fans can s%#t on Larry Scott! Kliavkoff states it's a misconception Pac 12 presidents and chancellors don't care about football, then states historically the conference has done very well in football and basketball: Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over the current state of the Pac 12! Kliavkoff discusses reducing conference schedule to 8 games and doing away with scheduling 12 years in advance to create better interconference matchups and increase exposure Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over tradition! Kliavkoff credits USC for letting go of Helton early which led to making the biggest coaching hire in the country and nobody in the country did a better job hiring. Beaverfan: OMG USC s%#t all over Helton Kliavkoff loves the Rose Bowl and insists the Pac 12 is not going to give up its relationship. Beaverfan: OMG He is s%#tting all over the...wait, what did he say? Kliavkoff critizes how the Pac 12 was not really involved with initial CFP expansion plan and no, that's not going to work, we are going to be part of that discussion. Beaverfan: OMG HE IS AN IDIOT! So in summary, dude spoke positively of the future of Pac 12 football, and a few comments that can be perceived as slighting the Pac 12, all of which are absolute truth and again, mostly all of which has been bantered about here and throughout the conference. Kliavkoff is simply stating facts, how the Pac 12 needs to address them, and what his roll will be in to achieve that, which he is confident he can achieve. I really don't get how this interview triggered any Beaver fan. I also read that article very different than some here did. I thought he covered a lot of issues that he was trying to target... recruiting, investment in football and basketball, scheduling and getting control of what times the games were played, number of league games, expanding the playoffs, all sorts of stuff. I am surprised that some here want it to be nothing but Rah Rah! when so many have been complaining about all of the problems with the league the last few years. The guy has barely been here long enough to get to know all of the school bigwigs and start developing any kind of rapport with them, let alone make any big moves. Larry Scott was here 2 years before the last media deal, and people think he blew it but now are complaining about the new guy not getting it done until he's been here 2 years (even when he says in the article he's hoping to get it done sooner). Our league has image issues, I'm thinking he's pretty realistic. The dude's been a bigwig at one of the biggest gaming companies in the world, a board member of TV networks and a CEO of Hulu (albeit interim), a member of the Board of Governors of the WNBA, a CEO of a virtual reality and immersive content studio, a President for Hearst Industries, the Executive VP for Major League Baseball's privately held media company (MLB Advanced Media), Turner Broadcasting System's Public Relations Coordinator for the Goodwill Games, and a few other things and some here act as though he was dug up out of some farm pasture. I for one would like to see what he can do before investing a lot of effort bitching about him.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 5, 2022 23:58:10 GMT -8
I'm gonna summarize his comments in the article. Kliavkoff Comments: - We (the Pac 12) have a lot of work to do (Truth), then cites numerous issues, some out of our control; Covid (restrictive states - Truth). Teams played limited schedules in 20-month period competing against teams that played near full schedules (Truth). Youth and HS participation rates have dropped significantly on the WC (Truth). Media rights deal (Absolute Truth) which he commits to Pac 12 fans to fix (Fantastic!). We have to improve recruiting and keeping 4- and 5-star recruits in our footprint at our schools (Truth). Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over the Pac 12 and the prior guy, only us fans can s%#t on Larry Scott! Kliavkoff states it's a misconception Pac 12 presidents and chancellors don't care about football, then states historically the conference has done very well in football and basketball: Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over the current state of the Pac 12! Kliavkoff discusses reducing conference schedule to 8 games and doing away with scheduling 12 years in advance to create better interconference matchups and increase exposure Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over tradition! Kliavkoff credits USC for letting go of Helton early which led to making the biggest coaching hire in the country and nobody in the country did a better job hiring. Beaverfan: OMG USC s%#t all over Helton Kliavkoff loves the Rose Bowl and insists the Pac 12 is not going to give up its relationship. Beaverfan: OMG He is s%#tting all over the...wait, what did he say? Kliavkoff critizes how the Pac 12 was not really involved with initial CFP expansion plan and no, that's not going to work, we are going to be part of that discussion. Beaverfan: OMG HE IS AN IDIOT! So in summary, dude spoke positively of the future of Pac 12 football, and a few comments that can be perceived as slighting the Pac 12, all of which are absolute truth and again, mostly all of which has been bantered about here and throughout the conference. Kliavkoff is simply stating facts, how the Pac 12 needs to address them, and what his roll will be in to achieve that, which he is confident he can achieve. I really don't get how this interview triggered any Beaver fan. Because all those "Beaver fans" you speak of are big time experts in D1 athletic administration. Plus high level executives equivalent to those at MGM International and other huge sport and entertainment companies. Not to mention board seats with the WNBA and other investment firms. I mean they all know what is suppose to be said, when, where, and how it effects the business of the Pac12. Yeah... that new commish is a buffoon, these Beaver board haters are the experts! Great post. Only, facts really are less important here than bias interpretation by "experts".
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jan 6, 2022 13:03:26 GMT -8
Why would one even consider including BYU's record in a discussion about the MWC vs. the Pac-12? BYU hasn't been a member of the MWC since the 2010 season. Heading into the 2020 season, the Pac-12 was 114-58 all-time vs. the MWC. Every single Pac-12 team has a winning record vs. the MWC. This year's losing record vs. the MWC, which barely moved the all-time needle, is clearly an outlier. mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/pac12/mountainwest.shtmlBYU was 15-21 vs. the Pac-12 all-time before this year and had lost eight in a row to Utah. The stars aligned for the Cougars this year. Below is the answer to your question on BYU. First, let me ask you this, when you look at all time records for Pac vs MWC/WAC compared to more recent results, is the P12 trending in the right or wrong direction? I think you may be missing my point. This thread is about the current state of the P12 so posting all time records as opposed to just recent results actually makes the point we are trending in wrong direction. The linked article that started this thread is about the right now, not the past. I include BYU in the discussion because to gauge what our current state is, in comparison to outside teams/conferences, a good place to start looking is at our nonconference results. One key item I didn't see the commissioner mention in the article, which I believe is a critical factor for the conferences future strength, is the number of top recruits who grew up inside P12 states and who committed to outside P5 conferences. The conference needs to identify why that's happening more than in the past and figure out a way to attract those players to stay closer to home.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jan 6, 2022 13:16:11 GMT -8
I challenge you to read the interview again. Tell me what you disagree with, because I agree with nearly everything he says. I just don't getcthe negative response here. And really one need be overly sensitive to perceive his comments as overtly negative when they are simply factual, and he lays out sound logic why the Pac 12 has struggled, and what he thinks needs to be done to fix it. The dude was hired to sell the Pac-12. That's his f#*king job. Negotiate on the Pac-12's behalf, and improve and sell the Pac-12. The dude just got done watching an instant classic Rose Bowl, best or second best bowl game of the year.
And he ignores the positive. Instead, we get what a hole the guy's in. We get how bad his product is. It's like a new CEO being hired at McDonald's and then him badmouthing the Big Mac. It is like he has no clue what his job is. Wendy's fries were trash. Now, they have ads out about how great their new, improved fries are. They are not saying that their old fries are trash. Everyone gets that. We want that it's fixed. A real salesman could sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman in white gloves. What he's doing is politicking. He is saying what a terrible job the last guy did. See, me being incompetent and doing nothing is not so bad. That's politics. It is not what he was hired to do. He was hired to sell, and he is failing miserably at it. If someone else wants to badmouth the Pac-12, so be it. They aren't on the payroll. We are paying this guy to badmouth the Pac-12. Money that you spend on the Beavers and their product is going to this loser. The revenue that could be helping to pay for a new and improved West Side is lining this guy's pockets. My from-the-hip thoughts. Terrible. Terrible hire. This guy's the best that we can do? If so, we are in serious trouble. 100% agree with bolded above. Rose Bowl was an absolutely great game this year. Very entertaining game.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 6, 2022 13:32:10 GMT -8
The Pac-12 is 60-27 vs. the MWC since 2013 inclusive, not including 2020, when I don't think we played them at all. I consider 2013 to the present the recent past.
That includes this year's 0-5, which I think will be proven as an outlier.
We all agree the Pac-12 must get better.
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Post by shelby on Jan 6, 2022 13:51:02 GMT -8
Everyone is missing the main point ; HE BLASTED THE PAC 12 to the sports universe . That is grade school PR SECONDLY, He blamed and called out his predecessor Third - He has provided zero proof that he can get the job , for which he was hired , even started .The only thing ( with certain obvious restraints), about anything he is doing to fix it. He cannot change bowl game outcomes , he cannot improve recruiting ( in fact he has done the opposite with his negative comments ). In any career , you have to prove your value. He has done nothing to alter the course and image of the PAC 12. Seems to be cut from the same cloth as his predecessor. I will change only if I see some progress. That is my problem - nobody else's !
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 6, 2022 14:26:44 GMT -8
I'm gonna summarize his comments in the article. Kliavkoff Comments: - We (the Pac 12) have a lot of work to do (Truth), then cites numerous issues, some out of our control; Covid (restrictive states - Truth). Teams played limited schedules in 20-month period competing against teams that played near full schedules (Truth). Youth and HS participation rates have dropped significantly on the WC (Truth). Media rights deal (Absolute Truth) which he commits to Pac 12 fans to fix (Fantastic!). We have to improve recruiting and keeping 4- and 5-star recruits in our footprint at our schools (Truth). Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over the Pac 12 and the prior guy, only us fans can s%#t on Larry Scott! Kliavkoff states it's a misconception Pac 12 presidents and chancellors don't care about football, then states historically the conference has done very well in football and basketball: Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over the current state of the Pac 12! Kliavkoff discusses reducing conference schedule to 8 games and doing away with scheduling 12 years in advance to create better interconference matchups and increase exposure Beaverfan: OMG he's s%#tting all over tradition! Kliavkoff credits USC for letting go of Helton early which led to making the biggest coaching hire in the country and nobody in the country did a better job hiring. Beaverfan: OMG USC s%#t all over Helton Kliavkoff loves the Rose Bowl and insists the Pac 12 is not going to give up its relationship. Beaverfan: OMG He is s%#tting all over the...wait, what did he say? Kliavkoff critizes how the Pac 12 was not really involved with initial CFP expansion plan and no, that's not going to work, we are going to be part of that discussion. Beaverfan: OMG HE IS AN IDIOT! So in summary, dude spoke positively of the future of Pac 12 football, and a few comments that can be perceived as slighting the Pac 12, all of which are absolute truth and again, mostly all of which has been bantered about here and throughout the conference. Kliavkoff is simply stating facts, how the Pac 12 needs to address them, and what his roll will be in to achieve that, which he is confident he can achieve. I really don't get how this interview triggered any Beaver fan. I also read that article very different than some here did. I thought he covered a lot of issues that he was trying to target... recruiting, investment in football and basketball, scheduling and getting control of what times the games were played, number of league games, expanding the playoffs, all sorts of stuff. I am surprised that some here want it to be nothing but Rah Rah! when so many have been complaining about all of the problems with the league the last few years. The guy has barely been here long enough to get to know all of the school bigwigs and start developing any kind of rapport with them, let alone make any big moves. Larry Scott was here 2 years before the last media deal, and people think he blew it but now are complaining about the new guy not getting it done until he's been here 2 years (even when he says in the article he's hoping to get it done sooner). Our league has image issues, I'm thinking he's pretty realistic. The dude's been a bigwig at one of the biggest gaming companies in the world, a board member of TV networks and a CEO of Hulu (albeit interim), a member of the Board of Governors of the WNBA, a CEO of a virtual reality and immersive content studio, a President for Hearst Industries, the Executive VP for Major League Baseball's privately held media company (MLB Advanced Media), Turner Broadcasting System's Public Relations Coordinator for the Goodwill Games, and a few other things and some here act as though he was dug up out of some farm pasture. I for one would like to see what he can do before investing a lot of effort bitching about him. The Pac-12 Commissioner is much more like a CEO than a Board Member. Board Members are politicians, who typically only have the power to fire and hire the people who actually do things. The Presidents would be akin to the Pac-12's Board. Those jobs show him to be more of a politician than a CEO. George was the "President of Entertainment and Sports" at MGM. That means that he ran three Vegas arenas (the Mandalay Bay Arena, the MGM Arena and T-Mobile Arena, where the Knights play) and "more than" 32 other "theaters and showrooms" scattered throughout the country. I do not believe that he had anything to do with any other components of MGM. Also, although styled as a President, Bill Hornbuckle has been President of MGM since 2012, so he was a bigwig, but never the top dog for MGM. More like a Vice-president or Manager at pretty much any other corporation. That does not scream to me, "Pac-12 Commissioner." Before that, he was the CEO for Jaunt XR. He was not the original CEO. In 2018, the company ousted George, because expenses were out of control and he was trying to do too much. The company promoted the VP Mitzi Reaugh, who was in charge of the XR Platform. The company streamlined and re-focused on the XR Platform and were bought out by Verizon in less than a year. Once again, that does not scream to me, "Pac-12 Commissioner." Kliavkoff was not President of Hearst Industries. He was President of Hearst Ventures, who was responsible for investing in start-ups, probably like Jaunt XR. He also was Co-President at Hearst Entertainment. His Co-President, Neeraj Khemlani, indicates that he was actually the Head of Hearst Entertainment since October 2013. So, there may have been, at most, an eight-month window that Kliavkoff actually was in charge of Hearst Entertainment. Hearst Entertainment's big product is the A&E Network, which primarily includes A&E, Lifetime and The History Channel. Once again, that does not scream to me, "Pac-12 Commissioner." Kliavkoff was the Chief Digital Officer at NBCUniversal Media, where his big claim to fame was getting Hulu up and running. And his "successful" 2008 Olympics. He then was the Interim CEO of Hulu. He quit at the end of 2008, supposedly in order to try and find something with less travelling. A lot of people had high hopes for him, because of his success with getting Hulu up and running. Instead, he wound up at Hearst. Once again, that does not scream to me, "Pac-12 Commissioner." Before that, we are talking about more than 15 years ago, before he turned 40. Personally, I am not seeing it. He was big in digitizing and then monetizing existing properties more than a decade ago. He was a big up-and-comer in 2008 and then seemed to have lost his way and still somehow failed his way up to become Pac-12 Commissioner. I don't know. What has he done since 2008 that screams Pac-12 Commisioner? Or before, for that matter?
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jan 6, 2022 19:40:53 GMT -8
There’s no sugarcoating position we are in as league. Everyone knows it. He speaks to it. In my mind to change it we must acknowledge it, be honest, then deal with how we improve. George is on right track in my opinion. A lot of work to do….
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 6, 2022 22:37:49 GMT -8
There’s no sugarcoating position we are in as league. Everyone knows it. He speaks to it. In my mind to change it we must acknowledge it, be honest, then deal with how we improve. George is on right track in my opinion. A lot of work to do…. But, "Beaver fan" here not only knows the how, what, when, why a Pac12 commish should act. And, now knows more than the Pac12 Presidents and their research in hiring the commish!? Just "wow" I've undersold membership here. I never knew they had such leadership experience.
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