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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Dec 18, 2021 19:32:53 GMT -8
OSU shot 52%.. 41% in 3 pt FG's.. had 21 assists on 26 baskets.. but 15 offensive rebounds by T A&M and 20 OSU TO's the difference... Wayne doesn’t make boxing out a priority. Not sure why. They simply don’t do it and it always kills us this year True..only one game this season OSU has outrebounded anyone.. not good
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 18, 2021 19:34:38 GMT -8
I see Texas AM had a light workout tonight.
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Post by geosci91 on Dec 18, 2021 19:45:53 GMT -8
OSU shot 52%.. 41% in 3 pt FG's.. had 21 assists on 26 baskets.. but 15 offensive rebounds by T A&M and 20 OSU TO's the difference... Wayne doesn’t make boxing out a priority. Not sure why. They simply don’t do it and it always kills us this year I'll never understand the lack of boxing out. Just holding your hands up hoping the ball lands in them?
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 18, 2021 19:48:30 GMT -8
I thought this was the most energy the team has shown in awhile. Unfortunately that wasn’t enough to overcome bad defense, sloppy passing and poor rebounding. Few observations:
— I hope Alatishe is just in a slump, but he seemed disinterested. On close to back to back possessions in second half he gave up offensive rebounds and I’m pretty certain those weren’t the only ones. Maybe he has an injury, but over last 2 games (58 minutes) he only has 11 points and 6 rebounds. — Williams and especially Akanno are not adding anything to the team. Neither can shoot and their D is poor. Malone-Key needs to take some of their minutes. Had a good game tonight, but even when struggling on offense he brings some energy. — Taylor definitely has to see a big bump in minutes. Kid brings energy. He’s a bit raw, but he can play — and WT can’t risk this guy transferring. — Most involved I’ve seen Calloo in some time. Might not show up ion the stat sheet tonight, but I though he was really trying to bring team together.
And anyone know what’s up with Hunt? Is he still recovering from Covid, injured or something else?
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 18, 2021 19:54:39 GMT -8
I thought this was the most energy the team has shown in awhile. Unfortunately that wasn’t enough to overcome bad defense, sloppy passing and poor rebounding. Few observations: — I hope Alatishe is just in a slump, but he seemed disinterested. On close to back to back possessions in second half he gave up offensive rebounds and I’m pretty certain those weren’t the only ones. Maybe he has an injury, but over last 2 games (58 minutes) he only has 11 points and 6 rebounds. — Williams and especially Akanno are not adding anything to the team. Neither can shoot and their D is poor. Malone-Key needs to take some of their minutes. Had a good game tonight, but even when struggling on offense he brings some energy. — Taylor definitely has to see a big bump in minutes. Kid brings energy. He’s a bit raw, but he can play — and WT can’t risk this guy transferring. — Most involved I’ve seen Calloo in some time. Might not show up ion the stat sheet tonight, but I though he was really trying to bring team together. And anyone know what’s up with Hunt? Is he still recovering from Covid, injured or something else? Hunt is still out in COVID protocol
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 18, 2021 23:11:47 GMT -8
OSU shot 52%.. 41% in 3 pt FG's.. had 21 assists on 26 baskets.. but 15 offensive rebounds by T A&M and 20 OSU TO's the difference... Wayne doesn’t make boxing out a priority. Not sure why. They simply don’t do it and it always kills us this year Look... WT may be a lot of things, but he's old pretty school. And in the few ops I've had to actually watch a practice or shoot around (mostly on the road) he definitely focuses on fundamentals and blocking out is one he constantly stresses. I think he's an "ok" teacher of those things, but there is not a lot of time spent on them once a season starts. And, has no real hammer to lay down the law. Players today aren't "old school", many listen with one ear and it's out the other and they revert to rat/AAU ball. WT's lack of recruiting prowess isn't just about game days. No talented depth, no threat of the talented players seeing pine time for not focusing on those teachings. It doesn't have to be 4/5* talent, but you have to have talent pushing talent. Players that listen and execute the teachings pushing others to do the same. Right now... there is not a bunch of talented guys executing basic fundamentals, let alone pushing others to do so. So far it just appears to be a rudderless ship in terms of players willing to play team ball on a consistent basis. It is compounded by the fact there is not much in the way of great fundamentals and basketball IQ. It's why I harp on the recruiting. To build a team and a fundamentally sound team that understands a scheme and style of play a program needs continuity. A mixture of players brought up in a system, understanding expectations, their role, and enough talent to provide competitive depth. It's year 8, recruiting has never been real good, but now the recruiting seems to be moving in the wrong direction. The portal is basically the only place OSU is getting the bulk of their players. WT needs to rebuild a base with HS players and add to them with transfers. Not the other way around.
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Post by lebaneaver on Dec 19, 2021 11:05:43 GMT -8
What little I’ve seen of this team leads me to believe fundamentals are NOT stressed. They lack the basics. Blame coach or players or both, but they simply don’t do the basics. A team with elite talent can (and do) get away with it. The Beavs aren’t THAT.
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Post by speakthetruth on Dec 19, 2021 11:16:02 GMT -8
What little I’ve seen of this team leads me to believe fundamentals are NOT stressed. They lack the basics. Blame coach or players or both, but they simply don’t do the basics. A team with elite talent can (and do) get away with it. The Beavs aren’t THAT. I learned as early as grade school basketball the coach harping to stop the ball going to the hoop. If a teammate gets beat get off your guy and stop the drive. After watching a few games apparently nobody on this team ever was taught that.
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Post by irimi on Dec 19, 2021 16:00:36 GMT -8
What little I’ve seen of this team leads me to believe fundamentals are NOT stressed. They lack the basics. Blame coach or players or both, but they simply don’t do the basics. A team with elite talent can (and do) get away with it. The Beavs aren’t THAT. The missed free throws the other night are part of that equation, too.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Dec 20, 2021 19:00:55 GMT -8
Wayne doesn’t make boxing out a priority. Not sure why. They simply don’t do it and it always kills us this year Look... WT may be a lot of things, but he's old pretty school. And in the few ops I've had to actually watch a practice or shoot around (mostly on the road) he definitely focuses on fundamentals and blocking out is one he constantly stresses. I think he's an "ok" teacher of those things, but there is not a lot of time spent on them once a season starts. And, has no real hammer to lay down the law. Players today aren't "old school", many listen with one ear and it's out the other and they revert to rat/AAU ball. WT's lack of recruiting prowess isn't just about game days. No talented depth, no threat of the talented players seeing pine time for not focusing on those teachings. It doesn't have to be 4/5* talent, but you have to have talent pushing talent. Players that listen and execute the teachings pushing others to do the same. Right now... there is not a bunch of talented guys executing basic fundamentals, let alone pushing others to do so. So far it just appears to be a rudderless ship in terms of players willing to play team ball on a consistent basis. It is compounded by the fact there is not much in the way of great fundamentals and basketball IQ. It's why I harp on the recruiting. To build a team and a fundamentally sound team that understands a scheme and style of play a program needs continuity. A mixture of players brought up in a system, understanding expectations, their role, and enough talent to provide competitive depth. It's year 8, recruiting has never been real good, but now the recruiting seems to be moving in the wrong direction. The portal is basically the only place OSU is getting the bulk of their players. WT needs to rebuild a base with HS players and add to them with transfers. Not the other way around. It's one thing if the transfer players you're getting are established P5 players. That's how Musselman built his teams at Nevada before leaving for Arkansas, and how Altman has had a lot of success this year. I don't think anyone would complain if two of the transfers we got this year were Remy Martin and Timmy Allen instead of a couple of the other guys who haven't shown much thus far. Unfortunately, that's not the case and we are where we are. Recruiting HAS to get better and I think there's only one? HS player in our recruiting class for next year at the moment in the kid from Germany.
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Post by beaverstever on Dec 20, 2021 19:55:57 GMT -8
I thought this was the most energy the team has shown in awhile. Unfortunately that wasn’t enough to overcome bad defense, sloppy passing and poor rebounding. Few observations: — I hope Alatishe is just in a slump, but he seemed disinterested. On close to back to back possessions in second half he gave up offensive rebounds and I’m pretty certain those weren’t the only ones. Maybe he has an injury, but over last 2 games (58 minutes) he only has 11 points and 6 rebounds. — Williams and especially Akanno are not adding anything to the team. Neither can shoot and their D is poor. Malone-Key needs to take some of their minutes. Had a good game tonight, but even when struggling on offense he brings some energy. — Taylor definitely has to see a big bump in minutes. Kid brings energy. He’s a bit raw, but he can play — and WT can’t risk this guy transferring. — Most involved I’ve seen Calloo in some time. Might not show up ion the stat sheet tonight, but I though he was really trying to bring team together. And anyone know what’s up with Hunt? Is he still recovering from Covid, injured or something else? Agree especially about Taylor. The season is lost, so that kid should be getting major opportunities to develop. In the little I’ve seen him play, he likely has the highest BB IQ on the team.
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Post by beaver94 on Dec 20, 2021 20:29:29 GMT -8
Look... WT may be a lot of things, but he's old pretty school. And in the few ops I've had to actually watch a practice or shoot around (mostly on the road) he definitely focuses on fundamentals and blocking out is one he constantly stresses. I think he's an "ok" teacher of those things, but there is not a lot of time spent on them once a season starts. And, has no real hammer to lay down the law. Players today aren't "old school", many listen with one ear and it's out the other and they revert to rat/AAU ball. WT's lack of recruiting prowess isn't just about game days. No talented depth, no threat of the talented players seeing pine time for not focusing on those teachings. It doesn't have to be 4/5* talent, but you have to have talent pushing talent. Players that listen and execute the teachings pushing others to do the same. Right now... there is not a bunch of talented guys executing basic fundamentals, let alone pushing others to do so. So far it just appears to be a rudderless ship in terms of players willing to play team ball on a consistent basis. It is compounded by the fact there is not much in the way of great fundamentals and basketball IQ. It's why I harp on the recruiting. To build a team and a fundamentally sound team that understands a scheme and style of play a program needs continuity. A mixture of players brought up in a system, understanding expectations, their role, and enough talent to provide competitive depth. It's year 8, recruiting has never been real good, but now the recruiting seems to be moving in the wrong direction. The portal is basically the only place OSU is getting the bulk of their players. WT needs to rebuild a base with HS players and add to them with transfers. Not the other way around. It's one thing if the transfer players you're getting are established P5 players. That's how Musselman built his teams at Nevada before leaving for Arkansas, and how Altman has had a lot of success this year. I don't think anyone would complain if two of the transfers we got this year were Remy Martin and Timmy Allen instead of a couple of the other guys who haven't shown much thus far. Unfortunately, that's not the case and we are where we are. Recruiting HAS to get better and I think there's only one? HS player in our recruiting class for next year at the moment in the kid from Germany. I don’t agree. I’d probably complain, at least a little, if we got Remy Martin.
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 20, 2021 21:48:03 GMT -8
Look... WT may be a lot of things, but he's old pretty school. And in the few ops I've had to actually watch a practice or shoot around (mostly on the road) he definitely focuses on fundamentals and blocking out is one he constantly stresses. I think he's an "ok" teacher of those things, but there is not a lot of time spent on them once a season starts. And, has no real hammer to lay down the law. Players today aren't "old school", many listen with one ear and it's out the other and they revert to rat/AAU ball. WT's lack of recruiting prowess isn't just about game days. No talented depth, no threat of the talented players seeing pine time for not focusing on those teachings. It doesn't have to be 4/5* talent, but you have to have talent pushing talent. Players that listen and execute the teachings pushing others to do the same. Right now... there is not a bunch of talented guys executing basic fundamentals, let alone pushing others to do so. So far it just appears to be a rudderless ship in terms of players willing to play team ball on a consistent basis. It is compounded by the fact there is not much in the way of great fundamentals and basketball IQ. It's why I harp on the recruiting. To build a team and a fundamentally sound team that understands a scheme and style of play a program needs continuity. A mixture of players brought up in a system, understanding expectations, their role, and enough talent to provide competitive depth. It's year 8, recruiting has never been real good, but now the recruiting seems to be moving in the wrong direction. The portal is basically the only place OSU is getting the bulk of their players. WT needs to rebuild a base with HS players and add to them with transfers. Not the other way around. It's one thing if the transfer players you're getting are established P5 players. That's how Musselman built his teams at Nevada before leaving for Arkansas, and how Altman has had a lot of success this year. I don't think anyone would complain if two of the transfers we got this year were Remy Martin and Timmy Allen instead of a couple of the other guys who haven't shown much thus far. Unfortunately, that's not the case and we are where we are. Recruiting HAS to get better and I think there's only one? HS player in our recruiting class for next year at the moment in the kid from Germany. Also have Tyler Bilodeau, a WA HS kid, signed. 24/7 composite ranking for him is about 200 I think. He comes from an athletic family; his dad played hockey professionally and his mom basketball.
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Post by ElBeavoLoco on Dec 21, 2021 10:43:03 GMT -8
It's one thing if the transfer players you're getting are established P5 players. That's how Musselman built his teams at Nevada before leaving for Arkansas, and how Altman has had a lot of success this year. I don't think anyone would complain if two of the transfers we got this year were Remy Martin and Timmy Allen instead of a couple of the other guys who haven't shown much thus far. Unfortunately, that's not the case and we are where we are. Recruiting HAS to get better and I think there's only one? HS player in our recruiting class for next year at the moment in the kid from Germany. I don’t agree. I’d probably complain, at least a little, if we got Remy Martin. VSOP, 1738, or XO? At least there’s no crappy VS offering. 😉
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