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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 6, 2021 12:06:32 GMT -8
Which is the real P5 Conference on the west coast.
GoBeavs!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 6, 2021 14:31:15 GMT -8
Which is the real P5 Conference on the west coast. GoBeavs! Lol. The Pac-12's champion heads to Pasadena and 120 years of tradition. The Mountain West's champion plays the sixth-best team from the Pac-12 in Inglewood at a bowl game named after a local comedian.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 6, 2021 16:18:48 GMT -8
Which is the real P5 Conference on the west coast. GoBeavs! Lol. The Pac-12's champion heads to Pasadena and 120 years of tradition. The Mountain West's champion plays the sixth-best team from the Pac-12 in Inglewood at a bowl game named after a local comedian. True Story, an impressive 6 Pac 12 teams are bowl eligible...same as the abysmal SEC East. At least I read that somewhere. The two best MWC teams are 3-0 against the Pac 12, which includes the Pac 12 champion. But yay tradition!
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 6, 2021 17:09:08 GMT -8
The SEC has five 6-win teams. Had the SEC played a nine-game schedule, like the Pac-12, Big Ten and Big 12, no way that many teams are bowl-eligible. Especially the three (Mizzou, Florida, South Carolina) from the East, who would have had to play one more game against the much-tougher West Division (Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, A&M and the Mississippis) and probably received another loss.
Cam Rising was not starting for Utah when it lost to BYU; he played only 20 minutes of the SDSU game. Had he been the starter from the get-go, Utah probably wins those games, which it lost by a combined 11 points. de Laura did not start for WSU when it lost to Utah State, he only played in the second half and led the Cougars to 17 of their 23 points.
True stories.
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Post by aggielarry on Dec 6, 2021 18:01:25 GMT -8
The Mountain West has 8 of 12 teams going bowling, a conference record. The conference did well this year in OOC. One of the big disadvantages of being in a G5 conference is the bowl assignments. If you're not the conference champion, even if you're a nationally ranked team with an 11-1 regular season, with wins over good P5 teams, you're going to be playing in the Barney's Muffler Shop Nobody Cares Bowl against Directional Michigan. That's just the way it is. We can only play the bowls that will take us.
If you guys would like to invite us to join the PAC-13 so we can get better bowl invitations, I'm sure we'd consider the offer.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 6, 2021 18:43:31 GMT -8
The MWC needs to adopt a 9-game schedule. It would make OOC scheduling much easier.
And dump Hawaii, an affiliate for football that is a financial drain on the other 11 teams, and restore UTEP or add NMSU and go to 12 full-time members. Especially since BYU isn't coming back, something the conference hoped would happen.
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Post by aggielarry on Dec 6, 2021 19:24:09 GMT -8
The MWC needs to adopt a 9-game schedule. It would make OOC scheduling much easier. And dump Hawaii, an affiliate for football that is a financial drain on the other 11 teams, and restore UTEP or add NMSU and go to 12 full-time members. Especially since BYU isn't coming back, something the conference hoped would happen. I respectfully disagree. An 8 game conference schedule is easier, and has worked well for our conference. Play every team in your division every year. Play half the teams in the other division yearly on a four year rotation, three home and home for two years, then the other three home and home for two years. Simple. Having 4 out of conferences games also works well. One FCS game, for a near guaranteed win. One P5 money game, to fund the athletic department (and occasionally win, looking at you, Wazzu!). One game for a potential P5 or high functioning G5 home and home for a potential resume builder, and if you're USU, the fourth game is a traditional out of conference rivalry with BYU. I wouldn't object to ditching Hawaii. They are a pain. The problem is, who would replace them? Again, respectfully, UTEP and NMSU are historically poorly performing programs in small markets. They add nothing. This has been discussed ad nauseum amongst not only Aggie fans, but the entire Mountain West conference. The preference is to stand pat. If we were to try and add anyone, it would probably be UTSA and/or SMU. Both are in much bigger markets. Aside from the Spurs, UTSA is really the only game in town as far as athletics in San Antonio. They have a nice facility in the Alamo Bowl, and they have enjoyed recent success. SMU brings at least a fraction of the Dallas market.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 6, 2021 19:40:43 GMT -8
The SEC has five 6-win teams. Had the SEC played a nine-game schedule, like the Pac-12, Big Ten and Big 12, no way that many teams are bowl-eligible. Especially the three (Mizzou, Florida, South Carolina) from the East, who would have had to play one more game against the much-tougher West Division (Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, A&M and the Mississippis) and probably received another loss. Cam Rising was not starting for Utah when it lost to BYU; he played only 20 minutes of the SDSU game. Had he been the starter from the get-go, Utah probably wins those games, which it lost by a combined 11 points. de Laura did not start for WSU when it lost to Utah State, he only played in the second half and led the Cougars to 17 of their 23 points. True stories. Yet strangely, those teams played as many or more bowl eligible teams than Oregon State Playing a 9 game schedule is a win in the Pac 12 when half the teams are trash. OSU played 6 bowl eligible teams all year, 2 of which were OOC. WSU the same, with both being losses.
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 6, 2021 19:43:49 GMT -8
The SEC has five 6-win teams. Had the SEC played a nine-game schedule, like the Pac-12, Big Ten and Big 12, no way that many teams are bowl-eligible. Especially the three (Mizzou, Florida, South Carolina) from the East, who would have had to play one more game against the much-tougher West Division (Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, A&M and the Mississippis) and probably received another loss. Cam Rising was not starting for Utah when it lost to BYU; he played only 20 minutes of the SDSU game. Had he been the starter from the get-go, Utah probably wins those games, which it lost by a combined 11 points. de Laura did not start for WSU when it lost to Utah State, he only played in the second half and led the Cougars to 17 of their 23 points. True stories. Yet strangely, those teams played as many or more bowl eligible teams than Oregon State Playing a 9 game schedule is a win in the Pac 12 when half the teams are trash. OSU played 6 bowl eligible teams all year, 2 of which were OOC. WSU the same, with both being losses. Confused, which two OOC were bowl eligible? Purdue and ?? And, Cal and Buffs, disagree with the trash = win comment. I guess so does OSU although I doubt they'd call them trash?! OSU had the perfect opportunity to have a 8, 9 win season. One that doesn't present itself often. They played 5 of the 6 non bowl/"trash" Pac12 teams and only go 3-2, barely beating UW. Yet go 2-2 vs Pac12 bowl teams. The home vs road mentality and execution is worrisome to me.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 6, 2021 19:53:40 GMT -8
Yet strangely, those teams played as many or more bowl eligible teams than Oregon State Playing a 9 game schedule is a win in the Pac 12 when half the teams are trash. OSU played 6 bowl eligible teams all year, 2 of which were OOC. WSU the same, with both being losses. Confused, which two OOC were bowl eligible? Purdue and ?? And, Cal and Buffs, disagree with the trash = win comment. I guess so does OSU although I doubt they'd call them trash?! Hawaii is the other “bowl eligible” team due to technicality
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Post by beaver1989 on Dec 6, 2021 19:54:49 GMT -8
The Mountain West has 8 of 12 teams going bowling, a conference record. The conference did well this year in OOC. One of the big disadvantages of being in a G5 conference is the bowl assignments. If you're not the conference champion, even if you're a nationally ranked team with an 11-1 regular season, with wins over good P5 teams, you're going to be playing in the Barney's Muffler Shop Nobody Cares Bowl against Directional Michigan. That's just the way it is. We can only play the bowls that will take us. If you guys would like to invite us to join the PAC-13 so we can get better bowl invitations, I'm sure we'd consider the offer. We can't get you in as team 13. Oregon would have to drop their football program, so we could have even scheduling.
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 6, 2021 20:02:12 GMT -8
I'm in the minority, but would love the Pac12 to modify to 8 conference, 4 NC games. Just as mentioned above with 5 games vs the North, and home & home with 3 teams from the South, rotated every 3rd year. One less game vs the South would also lessen the chances of Pac12 title game rematch... some.
Adding the ACC alliance would give us the chance to schedule two P5 games and two "others" or one P5 and three G5.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 6, 2021 20:40:42 GMT -8
I'm in the minority, but would love the Pac12 to modify to 8 conference, 4 NC games. Just as mentioned above with 5 games vs the North, and home & home with 3 teams from the South, rotated every 3rd year. One less game vs the South would also lessen the chances of Pac12 title game rematch... some. Adding the ACC alliance would give us the chance to schedule two P5 games and two "others" or one P5 and three G5. I think that's the plan when the Alliance goes on to effect
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Dec 6, 2021 20:47:05 GMT -8
How the hell does Jimmy Kimmel have a bowl named after him? Dude is tool...
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Post by collegiate on Dec 6, 2021 20:54:17 GMT -8
Nice job on the thread title!
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