nsh03
Freshman
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Post by nsh03 on Dec 4, 2021 14:43:40 GMT -8
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Post by qbeaver on Dec 4, 2021 16:32:23 GMT -8
Visited in June. Big DB. Nice offer list. Letter of intent day December 15. Osu should have a real solid class. Always looking to flip a kid late if we are persistent.
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Post by keizerbeav on Dec 4, 2021 16:33:36 GMT -8
Solid kid IMO just look at the schools offering, stars not as important. Hoping for 2 good DL guys….our greatest need. Desperate for a DT who can play now.
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Post by qbeaver on Dec 4, 2021 16:42:18 GMT -8
The portal is wide open and will likely have 2000 or more athletes in it. To me,we need speed on defense throughout our front 7. Guys who can win one on one battles,and guys who can cover at linebacker. Roberts,Spaights,AHM,and others are not good cover guys. We need athletes like Victor Butler,Slade Norris,Keaton Kristick,Derrick Doggett,Keith Ellison,Scott Crichton ...guys who can run and cover
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 4, 2021 17:22:36 GMT -8
The portal is wide open and will likely have 2000 or more athletes in it. To me,we need speed on defense throughout our front 7. Guys who can win one on one battles,and guys who can cover at linebacker. Roberts,Spaights,AHM,and others are not good cover guys. We need athletes like Victor Butler,Slade Norris,Keaton Kristick,Derrick Doggett,Keith Ellison,Scott Crichton ...guys who can run and cover Crichton, Butler and Norris could cover guys? Really? From their DE positions? How much you drinking? |
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Post by speakthetruth on Dec 4, 2021 17:29:46 GMT -8
Crichton, butler, Norris were strong enough to stop the run, quick enough to get to the qb, We don't have that type of guy today.
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Post by ag87 on Dec 4, 2021 17:32:38 GMT -8
Didn't Norris start his career as an outside receiver?
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 4, 2021 17:39:30 GMT -8
Crichton, butler, Norris were strong enough to stop the run, quick enough to get to the qb, We don't have that type of guy today. Which has nothing to do with “covering guys” |
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Post by qbeaver on Dec 4, 2021 17:55:45 GMT -8
Crichton, butler, Norris were strong enough to stop the run, quick enough to get to the qb, We don't have that type of guy today. Which has nothing to do with “covering guys” Butler and Norris were both defensive ends in the 4-3...they wouldn't be d-ends in the 3-4 that osu runs. Doubt Butler would be 242 pounds and Slade 255. My point is,both could run and beat their guys in one on one match ups. Athletes...we have so few of them on this defense. I have no doubt Slade or Vic could cover receivers with their athleticism. Just my opinion...some may disagree. Drinking? Not a drop. Smh |
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Post by keizerbeav on Dec 4, 2021 18:13:48 GMT -8
I felt when Coach Seumalo was here he developed a lot of guys into solid PAC-12 guys, Butler and Norris were good examples. I just don’t see much development with our current coach or ability to recruit well to this position group.
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 4, 2021 19:15:21 GMT -8
Solid kid IMO just look at the schools offering, stars not as important. Hoping for 2 good DL guys….our greatest need. Desperate for a DT who can play now. You never know the actual talent level or work ethic, but there are several Pac12 DL/OL transfers... WSU brothers, Furd, and saw maybe 3 from UCLA. Several were graded 85+. Getting some that actually are Pac12 quality and can play right away is key! |
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 4, 2021 19:21:23 GMT -8
The portal is wide open and will likely have 2000 or more athletes in it. To me,we need speed on defense throughout our front 7. Guys who can win one on one battles,and guys who can cover at linebacker. Roberts,Spaights,AHM,and others are not good cover guys. We need athletes like Victor Butler,Slade Norris,Keaton Kristick,Derrick Doggett,Keith Ellison,Scott Crichton ...guys who can run and cover No problem. Every guy you listed at least got a chance to play in the NFL. Shouldn’t be too tough to replicate. |
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Post by qbeaver on Dec 5, 2021 13:47:51 GMT -8
Most of those guys weren't highly recruited...they did a great evaluation and development of those kids. Crichton had only one PAC-12 offer...WSU. Kristick had one or two at best. Butler was a late addition who came in at 192 pounds. Norris was a walk on. Doggett was a late addition. Ellison was a juco and transfer. I could add more like Darnell Robinson,James Allen,Richard Seigler,etc who weren't highly recruited. Get very good athletes who can put on weight and still run and tackle.
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 5, 2021 13:54:56 GMT -8
Yep! EZ-PZ!
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Post by qbeaver on Dec 5, 2021 15:16:57 GMT -8
It's not easy,but some coaches have a skill for identifying guys who can project well at the college level. Jim Gilstrap,offensive line coach under Mike Riley had that skill. Start with speed...don't only look at offers and measurables. Heart,work ethic,intelligence,instincts,etc. all important
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