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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 28, 2021 10:11:35 GMT -8
 That looks a lot like the crown of the helmet is contacting Harrison's helmet, not his shoulder. Pure and simple, replay officials made a business decision not to hurt uo's defense for a half of the championship game. |
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Post by grad1973 on Nov 28, 2021 10:30:29 GMT -8
Should have the score been even closer then it was if it wasn’t for the non targeting foul. Who really won this game? We took advantage of most of our opportunities.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Nov 28, 2021 10:48:41 GMT -8
It wasn't targeting since the contact was to the shoulder. This is something that the clueless broadcasting crew never pointed out, which leads to the generally clueless public not being able to pick up on it. As for Jonathan Smith, he is an astonishingly ignorant coach. There is really no need to get into the minutiae of it since this is readily apparent to anyone with a brain. Hell, even going for 2 at the very end was foolish. Wait, what??? I assume you are talking about the overturned targeting? And if you are, you may want to go get ur eyes checked.....that was a perfect example of targeting. |
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Post by beavs6 on Nov 28, 2021 12:01:31 GMT -8
It wasn't targeting since the contact was to the shoulder. This is something that the clueless broadcasting crew never pointed out, which leads to the generally clueless public not being able to pick up on it. As for Jonathan Smith, he is an astonishingly ignorant coach. There is really no need to get into the minutiae of it since this is readily apparent to anyone with a brain. Hell, even going for 2 at the very end was foolish. Wait, what??? I assume you are talking about the overturned targeting? And if you are, you may want to go get ur eyes checked.....that was a perfect example of targeting. Ummm…ffb…not to be too PC, but wouldn’t that be “get ur EYE checked.”? Just sayin. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 28, 2021 12:04:46 GMT -8
Wait, what??? I assume you are talking about the overturned targeting? And if you are, you may want to go get ur eyes checked.....that was a perfect example of targeting. Ummm…ffb…not to be too PC, but wouldn’t that be “get ur EYE checked.”? Just sayin. I think he's got the patch on the wrong eye. |
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Post by korculabeav on Nov 28, 2021 12:30:11 GMT -8
Time to move on from the CW.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 28, 2021 14:28:49 GMT -8
Time to move on from the CW. Go ahead, nobody's stopping you. |
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Post by grackle on Nov 29, 2021 7:15:31 GMT -8
Again, this isn't really a debatable topic. If you look at replay angle from behind the end zone, which is the only angle that captures where the contact actually took place, it is clear that the defender's facemask contacts the receiver's shoulder. If you aren't able to decipher this, your mental acuity might be on par with Jonathan Smith, or you need a higher definition television. You need to ask yourself exactly WHEN did you become so aggressively, obviously stupid? What part of helmet-to-helmet contact are you not able to process mentally? Cutting down on your constant mouth-breathing might help. |
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Post by TheGlove on Nov 29, 2021 9:50:54 GMT -8
Looks like targeting to me.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Nov 29, 2021 9:58:29 GMT -8
Yep, certainly looks like targeting. The bigger question is, why did Nolan hang him out to dry? That ball should never have been thrown to that spot.
Go Beavs!!
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 29, 2021 10:32:30 GMT -8
Yep, certainly looks like targeting. The bigger question is, why did Nolan hang him out to dry? That ball should never have been thrown to that spot. Go Beavs!! Because it could have been a touchdown and that's what good qb's and receivers do? It's not like Nolan had time to think "Hmmm...I wonder if 23 will deliver a cheap shot targeting that won't get called." He was most likely thinking "I can fit that ball in there for a Td!" Receivers get hit going over the middle all the time. It's called football. The rules are there to reduce the chances of an injury from those hits. If they enforce them. |
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Post by vhalum92 on Nov 29, 2021 15:35:44 GMT -8
Yep, certainly looks like targeting. The bigger question is, why did Nolan hang him out to dry? That ball should never have been thrown to that spot. Go Beavs!! If you watch the slo motion replay, I believe the ball is thrown behind Harrison. I don't see him watching the ball, I see him looking at #23... if all that is true Harrison should have stopped or reached back to make the catch and thus not being lead into the Safety waiting for him. It is a rough game... not all throws are made and not all times can a QB protect his WR. The throw wasn't high, or slow... it was zipped on a line. I don't put any blame on Nolan, it is football and the throw was made in a spot Harrison could have caught it and had the best opportunity to protect himself. |
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Nov 29, 2021 21:46:47 GMT -8
Yep, certainly looks like targeting. The bigger question is, why did Nolan hang him out to dry? That ball should never have been thrown to that spot. Go Beavs!! If you watch the slo motion replay, I believe the ball is thrown behind Harrison. I don't see him watching the ball, I see him looking at #23... if all that is true Harrison should have stopped or reached back to make the catch and thus not being lead into the Safety waiting for him. It is a rough game... not all throws are made and not all times can a QB protect his WR. The throw wasn't high, or slow... it was zipped on a line. I don't put any blame on Nolan, it is football and the throw was made in a spot Harrison could have caught it and had the best opportunity to protect himself. I watched the replay. The ball was between Harrison and 23. I've always figured if you are going to get hit anyway, you may as well catch the ball. But I still think Chance hung him out to dry. Tight window forcing your guy into the teeth of a closing safety. Surely there were better options..............but maybe not  Go Beavs!! |
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Post by ee1990 on Nov 29, 2021 22:59:59 GMT -8
The Washington Football Team went for 2 on MNF after scoring a TD in the third quarter of a tie game. shrug emoji.
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Post by carlosdanger on Nov 30, 2021 2:07:36 GMT -8
The Washington Football Team went for 2 on MNF after scoring a TD in the third quarter of a tie game. shrug emoji.
Uhhh, that is because their kicker got hurt during the game. That is why they also didn't kick a game clinching field goal when they were near the goal line at the end of the game. Their kicker getting hurt nearly cost them the game.
As an aside, the level of stupidity displayed in this thread is mind-numbing. Let me insert the relevant clip, then point out what should be obvious.
Clearly, the receiver was never making any attempt whatsoever to catch the football. The receiver was not only not a defenseless player, but was bracing to purposefully make contact the entire time. He is looking at the defender the entire time, crouches down (which lowers the hitting zone) and sets his arm/shoulder to deliver a blow. Once the defender impacts his shoulder, he even follows through with his forearm.
Clearly, the defender was the only player with his head actually turned to the ball. He is tracking the ball and seems caught off guard by the impact. The defender is actually the one that goes flying from the impact, while the receiver (who was bracing for the impact the entire time) barely turns. Anyone that has actually played the game knows the different reactions one has to being hit unexpectedly as compared to when you brace for/deliver a hit.
Like I said before, this isn't even a debatable topic. Nothing I said can be disputed since the facts are what they are, no matter how badly someone wants to change them. The tape does not lie. Anyone that watches this definitive angle can clearly see, beyond any doubt whatsoever, that absolutely nothing about this play qualifies as defensive targeting. Only the blind, biased and dimwitted amongst us will continue to debate it. I expect some vehement arguments from 80% of this board shortly.
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