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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 28, 2021 11:27:27 GMT -8
Grades or lack of progress towards a degree? There's a difference and the latter seems to hit transfers quite a bit. It will be curious as to when he gets eligibility.
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Post by alwaysorange on Nov 28, 2021 11:28:30 GMT -8
Just curious how long are some of you going to use the excuse that the team has alot of new players? Didn't WT do a crappy job of recruiting high school players that put him into the position of having to recruit so many transfers? I do not have enough information to know which is at play here: 1)a lot of young talent needing to grow or 2) lack of talent /bare cupboard from lack of recruiting plugged with mediocre JC transfers? From reading the many takes on here it appears to be lack of depth and talent or recruiting. Young talent? I believe there are 11 juniors and seniors. That is an old team. |
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Post by korculabeav on Nov 28, 2021 12:21:27 GMT -8
I do not have enough information to know which is at play here: 1)a lot of young talent needing to grow or 2) lack of talent /bare cupboard from lack of recruiting plugged with mediocre JC transfers? From reading the many takes on here it appears to be lack of depth and talent or recruiting. Young talent? I believe there are 11 juniors and seniors. That is an old team. and they are playing like that? |
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Post by lebaneaver on Nov 28, 2021 15:39:20 GMT -8
Young talent? I believe there are 11 juniors and seniors. That is an old team. and they are playing like that? He DID qualify it by specifying “talent,” so…….. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 28, 2021 16:04:28 GMT -8
and they are playing like that? He DID qualify it by specifying “talent,” so…….. This is is the issue in the transfer portal era. We have some talent, but they don’t know how to play together. Also, it’s hard to shorten the rotation when some of the new guys have a great game and then disappear the next. We are also missing some leadership from the veterans. That’s who I’m most disappointed in. It’s looking like ET and Zach were holding this team together. Really need some leadership from Lucas, Silva, Hunt & Calloo and the other guys that have been here more than this year. |
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Post by alwaysorange on Nov 28, 2021 19:37:23 GMT -8
Lucas, Silva, hunt, calloo are not alpha type personalities. If you are looking for them for leadership you are in for a world of hurt.
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Post by rgeorge on Nov 28, 2021 23:34:58 GMT -8
Lucas, Silva, hunt, calloo are not alpha type personalities. If you are looking for them for leadership you are in for a world of hurt. True that. Plus, "veteran" doesn't mean Jr or Sr when you've only been in the program a year or less. If a program doesn't mix 3-4 yr vets that have been developed within the program with transfers your in trouble. WT hasn't shown that ability. Very few key players have stuck around to be those key leaders. Now that most are gone it's "Transfer U". WT isn't using the portal to fill key roles. He's using it to fill a roster. Four frosh signed for '19, two stayed. One frosh signed for '20. One frosh signed for '21. One frosh signed for '22 so far. That's not developing talent, or leadership. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 29, 2021 7:46:08 GMT -8
Lucas, Silva, hunt, calloo are not alpha type personalities. If you are looking for them for leadership you are in for a world of hurt. True that. Plus, "veteran" doesn't mean Jr or Sr when you've only been in the program a year or less. If a program doesn't mix 3-4 yr vets that have been developed within the program with transfers your in trouble. WT hasn't shown that ability. Very few key players have stuck around to be those key leaders. Now that most are gone it's "Transfer U". WT isn't using the portal to fill key roles. He's using it to fill a roster. Four frosh signed for '19, two stayed. One frosh signed for '20. One frosh signed for '21. One frosh signed for '22 so far. That's not developing talent, or leadership. Sounds like Robinson’s last few recruiting classes. Made for a very bad year a couple years later. |
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Post by shelby on Nov 29, 2021 9:15:23 GMT -8
Well - I think 'playing together' is the most visible issue .
Ball movement and shot selection, without a consistent three ball guy( or guys ), has been similar to our start last year.
When things finally 'jelled', the athleticism and individual skills came together quite nicely ( elite 8 ).
Two biggest disappointments , so far, are Silva and Lucas .
Calloo has been great on offense , but weak on D
Dashawn Davis seems to have some skills in driving to the hoop , but is always playing out of control
Rand has the most potential on both ends of the Court
I have also been impressed by Malone Key, Akano and Andela and Alatishe
Hunt is off and on and plays out of control.
Taylor, Williams and Johnson are all showing some great flashes .
So, I think the athleticism and talent are there - we just have not seen a starting five that can play together or a decent substitution plan !
Missing the three ball is a big part of the disconnect !
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 29, 2021 13:18:49 GMT -8
Well - I think 'playing together' is the most visible issue . Ball movement and shot selection, without a consistent three ball guy( or guys ), has been similar to our start last year. When things finally 'jelled', the athleticism and individual skills came together quite nicely ( elite 8 ). Two biggest disappointments , so far, are Silva and Lucas . Calloo has been great on offense , but weak on D Dashawn Davis seems to have some skills in driving to the hoop , but is always playing out of control Rand has the most potential on both ends of the Court I have also been impressed by Malone Key, Akano and Andela and Alatishe Hunt is off and on and plays out of control.Taylor, Williams and Johnson are all showing some great flashes . So, I think the athleticism and talent are there - we just have not seen a starting five that can play together or a decent substitution plan ! Missing the three ball is a big part of the disconnect ! Hunt needs to mature into his role, or WT needs to find someone else to give his playing time to. Hunt is so hot-and-cold. He is a rollercoaster to watch. It's either going to be great or terrible, and it seems like there is absolutely no rhyme or reason as to which you will see on each play. |
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Post by billsaab on Nov 30, 2021 10:01:58 GMT -8
This group has no leadership. I do not think a group goes from elite to crap. So why? Selfishness? No take charge guy. They better get it together before a change is made. This cannot continue. People talk about Hunt but what has he done? Lucas? What has he done? The bigs? What have they done? Coaches and players own this mess period.
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Post by ricke71 on Nov 30, 2021 17:16:00 GMT -8
This group has no leadership. I do not think a group goes from elite to crap. So why? Selfishness? No take charge guy. They better get it together before a change is made. This cannot continue. People talk about Hunt but what has he done? Lucas? What has he done? The bigs? What have they done? Coaches and players own this mess period. When you look at the six players with the most minutes played, and realize that three* of them combine for 5 for 38 from 3 pt (13%), it might be more than 'leadership' that is needed. (*that would be Hunt, Williams and Davis) |
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Post by babeav on Nov 30, 2021 18:06:58 GMT -8
I’m just spit balling here, seems an inside out approach would work. When you can’t hit from outside go in, kind of like run the F’n football, play to your strengths.
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 30, 2021 18:14:11 GMT -8
I’m just spit balling here, seems an inside out approach would work. When you can’t hit from outside go in, kind of like run the F’n football, play to your strengths. Our strength is not inside. Andela’s been OK, but Silva has not been good and Rand is not a low post scorer. |
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