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Post by beaverdreams on Nov 26, 2021 21:24:46 GMT -8
I know this loss sucks, but wow.....if these athletes put it together....they could be a force in conference.....frustrating to see them go through these growing pains, but for the first time I'm seeing Tinkle has a squad. They are raw, but wow, the athleticism.
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Post by beaverinohio on Nov 26, 2021 21:25:48 GMT -8
I wish the Beavs had just set up for a 3 that last play. Hunt played a pretty good game, but I had a feeling he would get cut off, not be fully under control, and Beavs would end with a bad 3-point look.
Nice comeback by Beavers. Unfortunately, with the hole they’ve dug themselves at the start of the season, moral victories aren’t going to cut it.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Nov 26, 2021 21:29:07 GMT -8
That 2nd half was much much better. Defense was better, we rebounded better, shot our free throws well, and erased what at one point was a 22 point deficit. In the end though, we are 1-5 and still can't shoot the damn ball from outside. 2-13 from 3 and as was already said, our go to "shooter" air balls the tying 3. Frustrating, but at least signs of improvement. We can kiss an at large NCAA bid goodbye already, but hopefully we can still put something together for conference play.
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Post by beaverdreams on Nov 26, 2021 21:34:10 GMT -8
Hah...yeah the tourney is likely already gone, but maybe we just shoot for winning the conference tourney again. It's the way we roll. lol
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Post by shelby on Nov 26, 2021 21:45:09 GMT -8
I think we ‘might be’ starting to see the emergence of some ‘team ball’ Andela was huge, Malone Key showed some serious talent and everything except the three ball was dropping in the 4th quarter. Maybe by the time P12 starts, all of those decisions are made. Feel bad that Lucas has dropped off so far - hope he finds it soon, or he could be buffing the bench !
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 26, 2021 21:48:23 GMT -8
Hah...yeah the tourney is likely already gone, but maybe we just shoot for winning the conference tourney again. It's the way we roll. lol Still 104th in kenpom. Oregon State has lost but lost close. And the teams that the Beavers have played have also not had terrible losses. Winning would be better, but, with metrics, there is really not much difference between winning and losing close.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Nov 26, 2021 22:32:05 GMT -8
Hah...yeah the tourney is likely already gone, but maybe we just shoot for winning the conference tourney again. It's the way we roll. lol Still 104th in kenpom. Oregon State has lost but lost close. And the teams that the Beavers have played have also not had terrible losses. Winning would be better, but, with metrics, there is really not much difference between winning and losing close. Iowa State just put a beating on #9 previously undefeated Memphis, and are undefeated themselves. They'll probably be a top 15-20 team next week with 2 ranked wins now. Wake Forest appears to be a decent squad and are 6-0 too. Princeton for an Ivy League school may win their conference and have beaten South Carolina already too. That's my best attempt at sugarcoating a 1-5 start. Let's get the win against Penn State tomorrow and get back on track cause conference play starts in less than a week.
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Post by beavsaregood on Nov 26, 2021 22:50:59 GMT -8
Is Wayne Tinkle a good coach? He's been here over 7 years. 2 tournament appearances (final 8 last year). Well, the last previous tournament appearance before Tinkle arrived was 31 years ago. He's better than we've had in a long time. I like Ralph Miller smoking More cigarettes...........while ragging on GP during practice. ..........and winning. Can bring him back from the dead? Please? Wayne Tinkle, huh? GP is coaching. Lester Conner is GP's assistant coach at Lincoln Univesity in Oakland? Didn't Lester Conner want the job and the provost or whoever, the prez, said no because he had no degree? A guy who played, coached, and managed in the NBA? A guy who played for the Beavs during the good old days. We got Wayne Tinkle. His biggest recruit is what? His son? Or his assistant coach's sons? That's great. What kind of game or identity does he even have? Coaching at mighty Montana and winning two ncaa berths out of the............what? big sky or something? and getting wasted prolly in the first round gets him a gig at OSU. Sweet. Ah . I'm joking. I love the dude. Go Beavs.
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Post by alwaysorange on Nov 27, 2021 3:26:18 GMT -8
This must be the thread where we come to celebrate a loss. Hooray!!
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Post by beaverinohio on Nov 27, 2021 5:23:05 GMT -8
Hah...yeah the tourney is likely already gone, but maybe we just shoot for winning the conference tourney again. It's the way we roll. lol Still 104th in kenpom. Oregon State has lost but lost close. And the teams that the Beavers have played have also not had terrible losses. Winning would be better, but, with metrics, there is really not much difference between winning and losing close. I’m not going to pretend I know all that much about Kenpom and all the various metrics, but doesn’t Kenpom use stats from previous year in current year metrics/rankings. How else does he have preseason rankings? As the season goes on and data from current season increases, data from previous year drops out or at least loses its weight. That is why most people will tell you Kenpom really does not start to become “accurate” until after about 10 games. Regardless though, metric systems like NET and Kenpom aren’t the only thing used. And I don’t think I’ve ever heard “close loses” mentioned when discussing head to head record or quad 1 record (good wins) and quad 3/4 record (bad losses). It is still early and teams will move up and down, but currently the Beavers have a record of 1-4 in quad 3 and 4 (NET) games. Put as much lipstick on it you want, but that is not good — no matter how close the games.
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