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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 9, 2021 18:05:15 GMT -8
That is two games now Nolan has been outright bad.
Long and short, he needs to figure it out. Bye week probably comes at a great time. He isn't seeing the field like he was, he is locking on to receivers really bad, his throws are all off now, his pocket presence is now non existent. I have no idea what happened, but he is performing nothing like we saw at USC.
That has gotta change fast. We ran for over 300 yards and lost... it wasn't all on the defense!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 9, 2021 18:10:54 GMT -8
That is two games now Nolan has been outright bad. Long and short, he needs to figure it out. Bye week probably comes at a great time. He isn't seeing the field like he was, he is locking on to receivers really bad, his throws are all off now, his pocket presence is now non existent. I have no idea what happened, but he is performing nothing like we saw at USC. That has gotta change fast. We ran for over 300 yards and lost... it wasn't all on the defense! A very low percentage fake punt, when the game seemed in hand did not help the situation.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 9, 2021 18:44:27 GMT -8
That is two games now Nolan has been outright bad. Long and short, he needs to figure it out. Bye week probably comes at a great time. He isn't seeing the field like he was, he is locking on to receivers really bad, his throws are all off now, his pocket presence is now non existent. I have no idea what happened, but he is performing nothing like we saw at USC. That has gotta change fast. We ran for over 300 yards and lost... it wasn't all on the defense! A very low percentage fake punt, when the game seemed in hand did not help the situation. A horrible call imo.....but "in hand"? This game was NEVER in hand. This loss is not all on Nolan, not by a long shot! But he's the most important guy on the field and look at his stats the last two games....and he absolutely looked straight up rattled scrambling around
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 9, 2021 18:52:06 GMT -8
At the end of the day, wazzu had a better game plan, and executed it better.....but both teams traded body shots, and imo, de Laura put them over the top. He is a good ball player
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Post by korculabeav on Oct 9, 2021 19:59:15 GMT -8
Nolan has issues right now. Hope he can get out of this fast.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Oct 9, 2021 22:14:19 GMT -8
When we can’t get a stop in the 2nd half the focus shouldn’t be on the QB
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Post by beaverbeliever on Oct 9, 2021 22:30:42 GMT -8
When we can’t get a stop in the 2nd half the focus shouldn’t be on the QB Both can be true. 309 rushing yards should be enough to beat 31 points.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 9, 2021 22:38:31 GMT -8
A very low percentage fake punt, when the game seemed in hand did not help the situation. A horrible call imo.....but "in hand"? This game was NEVER in hand. This loss is not all on Nolan, not by a long shot! But he's the most important guy on the field and look at his stats the last two games....and he absolutely looked straight up rattled scrambling around This game was a classical boat race. Up seven, I felt like Oregon State could go blow-to-blow with Wazzu and come out on top. But you give the Cougs a short field, and there was a cascading failure. Seven plays. Touchdown Wazzu 10-10. The offense put together its longest drive of the second half, which ended in a soul-crushing interception. The defense got a 4:20 breather. And with only two incompletions, that was about the extent of the breather. Seven plays. Touchdown Wazzu 17-10. The offense scored a touchdown. 17-17. 44 seconds off the clock. Two runs. 44 seconds was the extent of the breather and the defense trotted back out there. Four plays. Touchdown Wazzu 24-17. The offense scored a touchdown. 24-24. 2:26 off the clock. All runs. 2:26 was the extent of the breather and the defense trotted back out there. By the end of the Washington State's next drive, Oregon State's defense had lined up 31 times for 13:42 of game time, almost a full quarter. And the defense only had 7:30 of rest that the offense was able to tie down. If you exclude the short field drive to start things off, Wazzu held the ball for one stretch for 10:45 and Oregon State held it for 3:10. Not only did Wazzu dominate time of possession in the second half, it was worse as the game went along. All of that rest allowed Wazzu's defense to make the stops when it counted and did not allow Oregon State to make the same stops. It got worse, and it kept getting worse. Washington State 100% outcoached Smitty in the second half. Wazzu made A+ adjustments. Where were Oregon State's adjustments? Bad coaching. Nolan looked better than against Washington but was mostly still hot garbage for the second consecutive week. I am still waiting to hear that he is hurt or has been playing through something. Something about his throwing arm seems off. The running game looked great. Front seven looked great. De Laura had his best passing game ever against any opponent. And De Laura's second-best passing game ever against any opponent was against Oregon State in 2020. Wazzu outcoached Oregon State for a second consecutive year, arguably worse than last year. Yuck!
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Post by irimi on Oct 10, 2021 6:24:22 GMT -8
A horrible call imo.....but "in hand"? This game was NEVER in hand. This loss is not all on Nolan, not by a long shot! But he's the most important guy on the field and look at his stats the last two games....and he absolutely looked straight up rattled scrambling around This game was a classical boat race. Up seven, I felt like Oregon State could go blow-to-blow with Wazzu and come out on top. But you give the Cougs a short field, and there was a cascading failure. Seven plays. Touchdown Wazzu 10-10. The offense put together its longest drive of the second half, which ended in a soul-crushing interception. The defense got a 4:20 breather. And with only two incompletions, that was about the extent of the breather. Seven plays. Touchdown Wazzu 17-10. The offense scored a touchdown. 17-17. 44 seconds off the clock. Two runs. 44 seconds was the extent of the breather and the defense trotted back out there. Four plays. Touchdown Wazzu 24-17. The offense scored a touchdown. 24-24. 2:26 off the clock. All runs. 2:26 was the extent of the breather and the defense trotted back out there. By the end of the Washington State's next drive, Oregon State's defense had lined up 31 times for 13:42 of game time, almost a full quarter. And the defense only had 7:30 of rest that the offense was able to tie down. If you exclude the short field drive to start things off, Wazzu held the ball for one stretch for 10:45 and Oregon State held it for 3:10. Not only did Wazzu dominate time of possession in the second half, it was worse as the game went along. All of that rest allowed Wazzu's defense to make the stops when it counted and did not allow Oregon State to make the same stops. It got worse, and it kept getting worse. Washington State 100% outcoached Smitty in the second half. Wazzu made A+ adjustments. Where were Oregon State's adjustments? Bad coaching. Nolan looked better than against Washington but was mostly still hot garbage for the second consecutive week. I am still waiting to hear that he is hurt or has been playing through something. Something about his throwing arm seems off. The running game looked great. Front seven looked great. De Laura had his best passing game ever against any opponent. And De Laura's second-best passing game ever against any opponent was against Oregon State in 2020. Wazzu outcoached Oregon State for a second consecutive year, arguably worse than last year. Yuck! Sounds a lot like our other loss this season. There’s the blueprint. Keep the weakest part of the team on the field.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 10, 2021 7:56:37 GMT -8
A horrible call imo.....but "in hand"? This game was NEVER in hand. This loss is not all on Nolan, not by a long shot! But he's the most important guy on the field and look at his stats the last two games....and he absolutely looked straight up rattled scrambling around This game was a classical boat race. Up seven, I felt like Oregon State could go blow-to-blow with Wazzu and come out on top. But you give the Cougs a short field, and there was a cascading failure. Seven plays. Touchdown Wazzu 10-10. The offense put together its longest drive of the second half, which ended in a soul-crushing interception. The defense got a 4:20 breather. And with only two incompletions, that was about the extent of the breather. Seven plays. Touchdown Wazzu 17-10. The offense scored a touchdown. 17-17. 44 seconds off the clock. Two runs. 44 seconds was the extent of the breather and the defense trotted back out there. Four plays. Touchdown Wazzu 24-17. The offense scored a touchdown. 24-24. 2:26 off the clock. All runs. 2:26 was the extent of the breather and the defense trotted back out there. By the end of the Washington State's next drive, Oregon State's defense had lined up 31 times for 13:42 of game time, almost a full quarter. And the defense only had 7:30 of rest that the offense was able to tie down. If you exclude the short field drive to start things off, Wazzu held the ball for one stretch for 10:45 and Oregon State held it for 3:10. Not only did Wazzu dominate time of possession in the second half, it was worse as the game went along. All of that rest allowed Wazzu's defense to make the stops when it counted and did not allow Oregon State to make the same stops. It got worse, and it kept getting worse. Washington State 100% outcoached Smitty in the second half. Wazzu made A+ adjustments. Where were Oregon State's adjustments? Bad coaching. Nolan looked better than against Washington but was mostly still hot garbage for the second consecutive week. I am still waiting to hear that he is hurt or has been playing through something. Something about his throwing arm seems off. The running game looked great. Front seven looked great. De Laura had his best passing game ever against any opponent. And De Laura's second-best passing game ever against any opponent was against Oregon State in 2020. Wazzu outcoached Oregon State for a second consecutive year, arguably worse than last year. Yuck! Outcoached sure.....but we also just don't have the horses on the D line. Spread us out like they did, and there was ZERO pass rush. Prolly shoulda dialed up corner/safety blitz......BUT you gotta have guys who can win one on one in the trenches and pressure the QB.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Oct 10, 2021 8:18:36 GMT -8
So why did the coaching staff put it on Nolans shoulders on the final drive?
We run the football we win the game...they weren't going to stop a 2 pt conversion either.
Nolan played poorly. Receivers dropped passes, one which caused a brutal turnover. Play calling down the stretch waa absurd. The longest pass play called was thrown by the punter. 3rd and long.
But we are 4-2 so had I been asked how I'd feel at this point to have that record preseason I'd have said thrilled.
Go Beavs
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Post by korculabeav on Oct 10, 2021 9:17:50 GMT -8
So why did the coaching staff put it on Nolans shoulders on the final drive? We run the football we win the game...they weren't going to stop a 2 pt conversion either. Nolan played poorly. Receivers dropped passes, one which caused a brutal turnover. Play calling down the stretch waa absurd. The longest pass play called was thrown by the punter. 3rd and long. But we are 4-2 so had I been asked how I'd feel at this point to have that record preseason I'd have said thrilled. Go Beavs Great question on the calls on the last drive. Very Langsdorf like.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 10, 2021 20:50:04 GMT -8
So why did the coaching staff put it on Nolans shoulders on the final drive? We run the football we win the game...they weren't going to stop a 2 pt conversion either. Nolan played poorly. Receivers dropped passes, one which caused a brutal turnover. Play calling down the stretch was absurd. The longest pass play called was thrown by the punter. 3rd and long.But we are 4-2 so had I been asked how I'd feel at this point to have that record preseason I'd have said thrilled. Go Beavs To be fair, Nolan does not have that strong of an arm. The last interception was a great example of Oregon State getting outcoached and the players not being quite good enough to recover from the poor play-calling. I am not sure, who called the play for Washington State, but it is vintage Banker. Washington State had four linemen with their hands in the dirt. Each of the four with their hands in the dirt was an edge rusher. No defensive tackles. They dared Oregon State to run against them. The Cougars brought the house, rushing seven. If the Beavers run a quick slant, there is no one over the middle, and the receiver walks in with a gimme touchdown. Instead, Oregon State runs three slow-developing routes with Zeriah Beason running an underneath route from the outside. The running back stayed into block, but it was still only six to block seven. The right side of the line was rock solid, which was true for most of the game, but it bit Oregon State that play. There was a mix-up between the C and LG and Ron Stone Jr., an edge rusher lined up at DT, came through untouched. Beason was the only receiver that was remotely open. A great pass and that is an easy completion. With the pressure, Nolan threw high and behind Beason. The coverage was tight and Derrick Langford Jr. was able to recover and hit Beason in the ribs to both knock the ball loose and stop Beason from hauling in the tipped pass. Nous Keobounnam, who looked like an All-American on Saturday, was able to block Brennan Jackson (an edge rusher lined up at DT). Unfortunately, that put Jackson in the perfect position to catch the ricochet. If Beason is an inch or two taller or an All-American, that is an easy grab, but it is Beason. He did what he could. Poor play-call. Poor blocking up the middle. Poor pass under pressure. Blech. Not much of that was pretty, but to hang it all on Beason, when he was about 1% of the problem is wildly unfair. Where were the other drops? I counted at least four just awful passes from Nolan (five, if you include the last interception), but I do not remember a drop.
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Post by grad1973 on Oct 10, 2021 21:55:43 GMT -8
You mention qb play. Well it was obvious that Nolan wasn’t our guy So why didn’t Smith replace him and see if Boyer was ready to redeem himself. We could have learned something I think by subbing Boyer back in. Might have even helped Nolan to find himself again.
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 10, 2021 23:35:23 GMT -8
You mention qb play. Well it was obvious that Nolan wasn’t our guy So why didn’t Smith replace him and see if Boyer was ready to redeem himself. We could have learned something I think by subbing Boyer back in. Might have even helped Nolan to find himself again. Well, according to "fans" Noyer sux! They've seen him for ½ of the first game, on the road in front of fans (57k) for the first time in a year. The OL played terrible that half and there was zero run game. But, he sux even though I believe he has the same # of Pac12 W's than the next two QBs on our roster combined. And was 2nd team All Pac12. A game manager to be sure, but probably does ok with a team running for 240, 250, 300 yds per game. Plus he threw poorly for only 2 quarters, not 2 games?! Of course, some fans want Gebbia to return quickly. I'm not sure what body of work makes him seem the best option? Wait, what is his body of work? Beating the ucks I'm guessing?? Coaches... they tend to stick with a guy to not destroy their confidence. Yet as a QB you should be very strong minded and if yanked for what appears to be the good of the team. And, be a huge cheerleader for the next guy. Which I'm sure Nolan is, would be. And, they are at practice everyday and see the intricacies and who they trust most to get the job done. Pretty sure they are playing the best guy. By how much? And, really the QB situation is kind of scary if you think of the depth chart.
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