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Post by collegiate on Sept 8, 2021 10:48:34 GMT -8
I’d like to see coach Few recommend to the AD the same length of suspension that they’d give to a player for the same violation… hold himself accountable.
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 8, 2021 10:54:01 GMT -8
Evidently you missed the word "embarrassing"....as in embarrassing to the school. Didn't say he was risking the lives of others......himself maybe, but not others. Maybe I misunderstood your point then - you were saying it generally takes a lot more than a DUI to get canned. DUIs definitely do get coaches canned - heck, even tsdtr canned slick Willie's assistant after two weeks on the job for a DUI. thecomeback.com/ncaa/oregon-football-assistant-coach-fired-dui-arrest-less-week-job.htmlI was just saying that you have to be below average or new to the program for that to get you fired. Even mediocre coaches can often survive that. It also depends on the situation. Reaves was brand new to the ducks and also was arrested for reckless driving. The circumstances to the incident have some weight also. Certain types of incidents cause more embarrassment to the University than others. Reaves also got his DUI right after their strength and conditioning coach sent players to the hospital for over-working them. Yeskie was only in his 3rd year here and had not yet proven himself as a good coach and he got kept (2009 & 2010 were not exactly stand-out seasons)
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Post by beaverstever on Sept 8, 2021 10:59:55 GMT -8
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Post by TheGlove on Sept 8, 2021 12:03:34 GMT -8
I’d like to see coach Few recommend to the AD the same length of suspension that they’d give to a player for the same violation… hold himself accountable. that would be too good to true
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 8, 2021 12:03:38 GMT -8
Which broadcaster got a DUII? Not a DUI. You know what I'm talking about. That fact that is was all on film made it just as embarrassing publicly. No, I was genuinely curious, because I believe MEP's predecessor did get a DUII sometime in the 1980s and was not fired. MEP did not break the law. He did not endanger anyone but himself. He was not working at the time. Yes, it was embarrassing (mostly to himself) because someone videoed it, and made it public. That is reason for an employer intervention, or for an employer to encourage him to seek help (which I believe is what happened). But it was not (IMHO) anywhere close to be a reason for getting fired.
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Post by TheGlove on Sept 8, 2021 13:18:52 GMT -8
i'm sure he'll find a lawyer that can get him out of this...
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 8, 2021 13:27:44 GMT -8
Not a DUI. You know what I'm talking about. That fact that is was all on film made it just as embarrassing publicly. No, I was genuinely curious, because I believe MEP's predecessor did get a DUII sometime in the 1980s and was not fired. MEP did not break the law. He did not endanger anyone but himself. He was not working at the time. Yes, it was embarrassing (mostly to himself) because someone videoed it, and made it public. That is reason for an employer intervention, or for an employer to encourage him to seek help (which I believe is what happened). But it was not (IMHO) anywhere close to be a reason for getting fired. Steve Sarkisian disagrees with this post. MP was on a road trip with the team. That is "work related". I'm glad he got help and appreciate him still being here. Yes, I believe that DA also got one.
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 8, 2021 16:04:30 GMT -8
Fascinating discussion
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 8, 2021 16:23:21 GMT -8
Fascinating discussion Spock has a DUI?
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Post by seastape on Sept 8, 2021 20:32:06 GMT -8
i'm sure he'll find a lawyer that can get him out of this... Really depends on the facts.
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 8, 2021 21:31:57 GMT -8
i'm sure he'll find a lawyer that can get him out of this... Really depends on the facts. Ha! That’s the last thing it depends on!
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 9, 2021 8:43:44 GMT -8
Actually, it probably will be determined on the facts. The facts are he blew a .119 or .120. Pretty irrefutable evidence.
I was on a DUII jury in Benton County. BCSO pulled a guy who blew a .06, and tried to convict him. It took us one vote and 20 minutes to find him not guilty. The legal standard for DUII is .08. Under that, you are not DUII, over that, you are.
If it gets that far, I suppose their could be some clown in the jury room who simply won't vote to convict, because it's Mark Few. Would not want to be that person and take the scorn he'd receive from fellow jurors.
This will get pleased out long before trial. Diversion agreement, if Idaho has such a thing.
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Post by mbabeav on Sept 9, 2021 8:47:06 GMT -8
Actually, it probably will be determined on the facts. The facts are he blew a .119 or .120. Pretty irrefutable evidence. I was on a DUII jury in Benton County. BCSO pulled a guy who blew a .06, and tried to convict him. It took us one vote and 20 minutes to find him not guilty. The legal standard for DUII is .08. Under that, you are not DUII, over that, you are. If it gets that far, I suppose their could be some clown in the jury room who simply won't vote to convict, because it's Mark Few. Would not want to be that person and take the scorn he'd receive from fellow jurors. This will get pleased out long before trial. Diversion agreement, if Idaho has such a thing. .08 is the legal limit, but if a DA can "prove" that your driving was impaired even if you were below .08, you can be convicted. Benton County used to have a DA that would go after you if you had anything in your system at all, it seemed like.
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Post by seastape on Sept 9, 2021 9:39:29 GMT -8
Actually, it probably will be determined on the facts. The facts are he blew a .119 or .120. Pretty irrefutable evidence. I was on a DUII jury in Benton County. BCSO pulled a guy who blew a .06, and tried to convict him. It took us one vote and 20 minutes to find him not guilty. The legal standard for DUII is .08. Under that, you are not DUII, over that, you are. If it gets that far, I suppose their could be some clown in the jury room who simply won't vote to convict, because it's Mark Few. Would not want to be that person and take the scorn he'd receive from fellow jurors. This will get pleased out long before trial. Diversion agreement, if Idaho has such a thing. .08 is the legal limit, but if a DA can "prove" that your driving was impaired even if you were below .08, you can be convicted. Benton County used to have a DA that would go after you if you had anything in your system at all, it seemed like. I'll back that up...as a criminal defense lawyer, I've had plenty of cases where the DA had all too good of evidence that the driver was drunk, even with a <.08. The same goes the other way: I got an acquittal for a guy with a .12 on what is called a "rising" defense. There's some play in the numbers between .06 -- .10 and so a lot of times you'll get offered something lower than a DUI.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 9, 2021 12:02:13 GMT -8
And as usual, it all comes down to the jury. No jury I am on will convict on a DUII case if the driver is below .08.
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