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Post by Werebeaver on Jul 23, 2021 18:00:51 GMT -8
Wait until the Freshman 15 hits the new ballers . Maybe the Conditioning / Strength coach can fix that ! In Scott Rueck’s tenure I don’t recall any overweight players. Well one perhaps but she never saw the court and did not last long.
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Post by shelby on Jul 24, 2021 6:42:07 GMT -8
You are correct - but, depending on the sport and the athlete - there are many levels of fitness that would help or hurt an athlete in a given sport ! I know who you are/ we're referring to in wbb and that was pretty obvious ! Scott's program seems to emphasize weights as well as diet and other exercise regimens that are based on the needs for optimal basketball fitness .
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Post by ricke71 on Jul 24, 2021 10:51:16 GMT -8
Greta just looks like she belongs, just can't see her being on kept on the bench. TVO's hard cross-over step-back isn't going to be defended by the whole league, so hard to fault here there. Tea makes you realize the size of this team. At 5'9", she's going to need all of her athleticism in the Pac. I really like having a player of her game style on the team though, we don't usually have guards more interested in challenging inside rather than out. I suspect our bigs are going to benefit when she's on the floor. 4 redshirt seniors on this roster, but it's Taya the looks to have the 'my year, my team' aura (I know, that's a real stretch from a short video) Don't like all the cupping marks on Taylor's shoulders; I hope she is pain free by the season. Also didn't notice KB in any of the live action, wonder if she's actually mixing it up yet. I'm also hopeful that Taya is primed for a "my year, my team" role. It's crazy that in the context of a 'normal' 4-year WBB 'career' at a university, she's only half done. With degree already in hand, it'll be interesting to see if she plans on one, or two, more seasons.
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Post by bvrbooster on Jul 24, 2021 11:25:28 GMT -8
I don't think Taya is primed for any such approach. I've seen nothing in the last 4 years that would suggest she's going to try to assert herself this year. Just seems completely out of character. I think the best we can hope for is that she be solid, perhaps a bit more so now that the injury is well in her rearview mirror.
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Post by ricke71 on Jul 24, 2021 14:22:27 GMT -8
I don't think Taya is primed for any such approach. I've seen nothing in the last 4 years that would suggest she's going to try to assert herself this year. Just seems completely out of character. I think the best we can hope for is that she be solid, perhaps a bit more so now that the injury is well in her rearview mirror. I'm in (only partial) agreement. Maybe I should have qualified the statement it a bit more. I see it as being somewhere on a continuum between "hopefully" on the high end, and "maybe/maybe not" on the other end. I've seen flashes of intensity in her game...especially on defense - but it's more of a Jamaal Wilkes type intensity, rather than that of her good friend Aleah Goodman or Mik. I guess I just the type of fan that doesn't put a limit on possibilities, before a season begins. With good coaching, and the Beavs have that, every player has the potential to grow between ages 18>19, 19>20, 20>21, etc. Maybe Coach Hunter will be the right 'fit' for a player such as Corosdale.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jul 24, 2021 14:34:45 GMT -8
Maybe Coach Hunter will be the right 'fit' for a player such as Corosdale. When they first signed her, I thought Corosdale would be a similar player to Hunter, only better. Maybe Deven is the perfect coach to help Taya reach her potential.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jul 24, 2021 14:35:39 GMT -8
So who else might take up the mantle of making it "her team?"
Maybe Jones? Or TvO?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 15:02:19 GMT -8
So who else might take up the mantle of making it "her team?" Maybe Jones? Or TvO? One opinion on the qualities needed to be a great leader: o Learn from your mistakes o Lead by example o Put other's needs first o Have confidence o Set a high standard Another set of opinions: o Give it an all-out effort o Encourage o Understand that basketball is a team sport o Understand mistakes will be made o Do not allow others to talk negatively about the team And yet another: o You must be self-motivated. o Team captains firmly believe that the best interest of the team always comes first. o Team captains are bold, tenacious, fearless, prepared, fluid and enthusiastic. o Team leaders are great listeners and have a thirst to improve. o Team captains expect and demand the best from themselves and their teammates. o Know your role. A key part of being a leader is knowing your role on the team. If you don’t know, ask. o Team captains choose their words carefully. The words of the team captain mean more than that of any other player. o Encourages teammates. A good leader keeps the team upbeat and positive. If a teammate is down, the captain picks the player’s spirits up. o Understand that mistakes will be made. Team leaders can’t get down on themselves or others when mistakes because if you do others will follow. o Team captains do not allow others to talk negatively about the team. You should take any insult about a team member as an insult against the whole team. So, it seems to me it's down to Ellie Mack and Talia Von Oelhoffen. Tea Adams led her team in steals and assists and is presumably mature and skilled and would be a good leader, but she is new and she probably won't start. Ellie and TVO have tremendous self-confidence and some swagger, so they just need to choose to embrace the role. I don't see any of our other players having what it takes.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Jul 24, 2021 15:19:45 GMT -8
Taya has had an opportunity to learn what it takes to be the team leader from a couple really good leaders in Mik and Aleah. I will wait until the season starts to pass any kind of judgment on her abilities. According to Aleah, Taya played a leadership role last year. It just wasn't as visible to us fans.
Ellie is another good choice as a leader as is TVO despite her youth. TVO has such a high basketball IQ that is ridiculous, learning to play 3 positions and manage the other 2 in 3 practices is unbelievable. Especially since Rueck's system is complicated.
I think those three will be the captain's.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 15:32:23 GMT -8
Taya has had an opportunity to learn what it takes to be the team leader from a couple really good leaders in Mik and Aleah. I will wait until the season starts to pass any kind of judgment on her abilities. According to Aleah, Taya played a leadership role last year. It just wasn't as visible to us fans. Ellie is another good choice as a leader as is TVO despite her youth. TVO has such a high basketball IQ that is ridiculous, learning to play 3 positions and manage the other 2 in 3 practices is unbelievable. Especially since Rueck's system is complicated. I think those three will be the captain's. We don't know anything about Greta, really, but if she were to be a starter and quickly develop a prominent role on the team, all it would take would be for her to be vocal and confident and want the leadership role. Which, as a freshman, would be very unlikely, unless it were a natural gift of hers. If she excelled early, her confidence level could soar. Not saying it's likely, but some people have the gift.
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Post by bvrbooster on Jul 24, 2021 16:10:35 GMT -8
When Ricke71 said "my year, my team", I took that as a team member who would, by virtue of their personality and mindset, be the person going into the year who will determine that it's up to her to put the team on her back and refuse to let them lose. From day one, come crunch time, she's going to draw the critical foul, demand the ball for the shot that must be made, force the turnover - that type of thing.
I just don't think that's Taya's personality. Not saying she's not capable of doing any of those things, as she is. Just saying that the other 4 on the floor at that time, and all the fans at Gill, won't be expecting that of her. It's happened before though -Marie's senior year comes to mind.
Of the returning players, the one I envision ultimately being a "my year, my team" player is Talia, but not this year. She's not quite ready to fill that role yet. I think Sasha might have that mindset as well, but she's gone. No way of knowing about the brand new ones. Kennedy could possibly get there as well.
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Post by wbosh15 on Jul 24, 2021 16:14:59 GMT -8
When Ricke71 said "my year, my team", I took that as a team member who would, by virtue of their personality and mindset, be the person going into the year who will determine that it's up to her to put the team on her back and refuse to let them lose. From day one, come crunch time, she's going to draw the critical foul, demand the ball for the shot that must be made, force the turnover - that type of thing. I just don't think that's Taya's personality. Not saying she's not capable of doing any of those things, as she is. Just saying that the other 4 on the floor at that time, and all the fans at Gill, won't be expecting that of her. It's happened before though -Marie's senior year comes to mind. Of the returning players, the one I envision ultimately being a "my year, my team" player is Talia, but not this year. She's not quite ready to fill that role yet. I think Sasha might have that mindset as well, but she's gone. No way of knowing about the brand new ones. Kennedy could possibly get there as well. I think this is the first mention of the correct answer. I’ve heard Aleah and the coaches both mention Kennedy as the leader next year. I think she’s going to be the one to lead the team, TVO will have the ball in her hands at crunch time, but I think KB will be the leader.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 17:53:37 GMT -8
Of the returning players, the one I envision ultimately being a "my year, my team" player is Talia, but not this year. She's not quite ready to fill that role yet. I think Sasha might have that mindset as well, but she's gone. No way of knowing about the brand new ones. Kennedy could possibly get there as well. I think this is the first mention of the correct answer. I’ve heard Aleah and the coaches both mention Kennedy as the leader next year. I think she’s going to be the one to lead the team, TVO will have the ball in her hands at crunch time, but I think KB will be the leader. Not Kennedy unless her game improves dramatically. Only 6 ppg, 37% shooting (not good for a big), and was outrebounded by little Pivec. She also showed a lot of diffidence in her shooting and missed a lot of gimme's. I'm sure she wants to be a leader, but she needs a huge step forward this year to be seen as one....
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jul 24, 2021 18:59:05 GMT -8
I think this is the first mention of the correct answer. I’ve heard Aleah and the coaches both mention Kennedy as the leader next year. I think she’s going to be the one to lead the team, TVO will have the ball in her hands at crunch time, but I think KB will be the leader. Not Kennedy unless her game improves dramatically. Only 6 ppg, 37% shooting (not good for a big), and was outrebounded by little Pivec. She also showed a lot of diffidence in her shooting and missed a lot of gimme's. I'm sure she wants to be a leader, but she needs a huge step forward this year to be seen as one.... Are you kidding about the rebounding? Pivec outrebounded everybody else on the team, because she was a beast. Brown was 2nd in rebounding average, ahead of Jones. That is really not the thing to be nitpicking about.
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Post by ricke71 on Jul 24, 2021 19:27:01 GMT -8
When Ricke71 said "my year, my team", I took that as a team member who would, by virtue of their personality and mindset, be the person going into the year who will determine that it's up to her to put the team on her back and refuse to let them lose. From day one, come crunch time, she's going to draw the critical foul, demand the ball for the shot that must be made, force the turnover - that type of thing. I just don't think that's Taya's personality. Not saying she's not capable of doing any of those things, as she is. Just saying that the other 4 on the floor at that time, and all the fans at Gill, won't be expecting that of her. It's happened before though -Marie's senior year comes to mind. Of the returning players, the one I envision ultimately being a "my year, my team" player is Talia, but not this year. She's not quite ready to fill that role yet. I think Sasha might have that mindset as well, but she's gone. No way of knowing about the brand new ones. Kennedy could possibly get there as well. Small point of clarification: It was actually 'beaverstever' who said it first. I was just quoting beaverstever: (from page 1) "4 redshirt seniors on this roster, but it's Taya the looks to have the 'my year, my team' aura (I know, that's a real stretch from a short video)"
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