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Post by Werebeaver on Jul 23, 2021 13:15:45 GMT -8
I don't understand why many of you folks are so upset if you're vaccinated and others aren't. President Biden himself just said in no uncertain terms at his Town Hall that "You're not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations." So see? You have nothing to worry about. Glad to help clear this up! Thanks for clarifying your personal worldview. Maybe, just maybe we're concerned about other people needlessly getting sick or dying from it due to misinformation or lies; leaving widows, widowers and/or orphans? Maybe we're concerned about its potential unnecessary burden on our health care system? Expressing concern for things beyond the end of your own nose. Wow, what an astonishing concept. For certain folks I know it just does not compute.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 23, 2021 13:41:01 GMT -8
I don't understand why many of you folks are so upset if you're vaccinated and others aren't. President Biden himself just said in no uncertain terms at his Town Hall that "You're not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations." So see? You have nothing to worry about. Glad to help clear this up! Thanks for clarifying your personal worldview. Maybe, just maybe we're concerned about other people needlessly getting sick or dying from it due to misinformation or lies; leaving widows, widowers and/or orphans? Maybe we're concerned about its potential unnecessary burden on our health care system? Worrying about things beyond the end of your own nose. Wow, what an astonishing concept. For certain folks I know it just does not compute. Wow, you're even smarter than I thought you were. You gleaned what my own personal worldview is from one post on a supposed sports forum. Impressive. Especially since my post wasn't even about my thoughts, but the thoughts of the President. Of course he's wrong, but I hate a nit picker. On another note, I've been surprised when I read about outbreaks in hospitals and they note that the care workers aren't vaccinated. At PeaceHealth hospital in Vancouver, Wa the article said "Of the 14 COVID-19 positive cases detected, only five are fully vaccinated. Neville also added that only one of the four health care workers who tested positive is fully vaccinated." I admit that I find that unusual. I've read similar things from other parts of the country too. You would think that 100% of the people in the medical field would be vaccinated, like I am. Why aren't they?
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jul 23, 2021 13:54:32 GMT -8
Thanks for clarifying your personal worldview. Maybe, just maybe we're concerned about other people needlessly getting sick or dying from it due to misinformation or lies; leaving widows, widowers and/or orphans? Maybe we're concerned about its potential unnecessary burden on our health care system? Worrying about things beyond the end of your own nose. Wow, what an astonishing concept. For certain folks I know it just does not compute. Wow, you're even smarter than I thought you were. You gleaned what my own personal worldview is from one post on a supposed sports forum. Impressive. Especially since my post wasn't even about my thoughts, but the thoughts of the President. Of course he's wrong, but I hate a nit picker. On another note, I've been surprised when I read about outbreaks in hospitals and they note that the care workers aren't vaccinated. At PeaceHealth hospital in Vancouver, Wa the article said "Of the 14 COVID-19 positive cases detected, only five are fully vaccinated. Neville also added that only one of the four health care workers who tested positive is fully vaccinated." I admit that I find that unusual. I've read similar things from other parts of the country too. You would think that 100% of the people in the medical field would be vaccinated, like I am. Why aren't they? I'm in the medical field and there's a good amount who aren't getting the vax. It's not just uneducated, conspiracy theorists who aren't getting it.
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Post by irimi on Jul 23, 2021 14:01:35 GMT -8
Oh, there’s something wrong with protesting? Last I checked, there’s something wrong with murdering people, especially if you do so in broad daylight with a crowd of people telling you to stop. If that is part of your coin, then your side landed down in the pile of s%#t. We will likely never know the facts about the Russian collusion because of the Senate voted not to hear the facts. It is only a debacle in that the American people had a right to judge for themselves and hear all the evidence, but it remains concealed. Wisconsin? How is that a response in any way to that hideous day at DC? See, I believe that government should be working, as Lincoln said, for the people. Some of you want government to work for the individual, but we need government to work for ALL of the people, regardless of race, color, or creed. We should fear the government that does not. The comments had nothing to do with my beliefs. The point is politicians from both sides will use extremists to further their agenda. I agree with this. So why on earth would anyone take their medical advice from talking head? Explain to me why Covid 19 ever became a Democrat vs. Republican thing. All you've got to do is look around the world and see what is happening in other countries. Then you see that Covid is not a political issue. It is a human one. As such, politics should be set aside in favor of science and saving as many people as possible. But it didn't work that way, did it. Nope. Because there is a group of Americans who selfishly think of themselves ahead of all others and consider it their "patriotic" duty to do so. True patriots, true heroes routinely sacrifice themselves for the good of all.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 23, 2021 14:20:37 GMT -8
This is the same glib nonsense that I was faulting ATown for. Which politicians? Name names! Which politicians are out there lying? What are their lies? State with particularity! Also, as I have pointed out before, the large issue with vaccinations right now is that African-Americans and Hispanics are not being vaccinated as often as White, Non-Hispanics. Trying to politicize vaccinations is arguing margins. Also also, if you want to really become transfixed by vaccine hesitancy, look at Europe's vaccine hesitancy numbers (outside of the United Kingdom). I am laughing at this post. It made my night. In fact, it was billthebeav who remarked about lying Republicans, not I. To be honest, I can simply judge the politicians by their followers. In my local area, I have seen those who will wear a mask and those who won’t, and the ones who don’t are primarily Republican. You can see the same on this board. Which begs the question: which are truly the sheep— the ones wearing a mask and getting vaccinated or the ones following their politics? If I was a condescension vampire, I could feast for a lifetime on this thread. If they are both wearing a mask and are vaccinated, they are clearly sheeple following their politics. Well said! Democrats' attempts to condescend people who are not vaccinated into getting vaccinated (or about anything else, really) are generally wildly unhelpful.
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Post by jdogge on Jul 23, 2021 14:48:37 GMT -8
Um, Democrats didn't collude with Russia. There was no rioting. 6 January 2021 wasn't a riot, btw: it was an attempted coup. The left did not take over the Wisconsin state capitol. That was all you guys. Neither side colluded with Russia.....but I suppose you don't believe that, do you? I mean their might be a couple P's of S here mad there colluding, but not large-scale. And no rioting? Dude put down the pipe, and step away..... If you believe there was no collusion you need to read Seth Abramson's Proof of Collusion: How Trump Betrayed America or get a headectomy.
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Post by jdogge on Jul 23, 2021 14:49:27 GMT -8
Ashland is "liberal?" I guess if your left of Attila the Hun, you must be a liberal. YOU'RE!!!! YOU'RE!!!! YOU'RE!!!! YOU'RE!!!! YOU'RE!!!! normally I wouldn't do this kinda thing but since u like to point it out...... Oh, and Ashland is just like everywhere else in western OR.....got some tree huggers and then people who get s%#t done. Yes. I was excited. I was bad.
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Post by greshambeaver on Jul 23, 2021 14:54:42 GMT -8
Gotta love free will, and not "groupthink". Freedom of choice is what has made this country the greatest nation in the world. You must mean "free ignorance", let me ask, what happens if a cop catches you not wearing your seat belt. Or not having your toddler in a protective seat in the back of the car? Statement like yours just make it harder on everyone to get out of this pandemic and puts us further behind in every aspect of our lives and our community!
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Post by greshambeaver on Jul 23, 2021 14:57:04 GMT -8
That is pretty funny. Blacks and Hispanics are vastly over represented in the unvaccinated. You’re saying that’s Trumps base? Who said anything about Trump?He didn't say trump, but they are the obvious fools. Blacks don't trust medicine because of many things that have happended in the past, but they are coming around, unlike the fools in the room!
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Post by beavs6 on Jul 23, 2021 14:58:09 GMT -8
Looks like bill the beav is a very soft target for disinformation. SAD ! You can't fix ... jdodge?
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Post by Werebeaver on Jul 23, 2021 14:59:54 GMT -8
So have we beat this topic to death yet? I think we're starting to repeat ourselves.
Love ya all - even if I disagree w/ you.
Go Beavs!
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Post by speakthetruth on Jul 23, 2021 15:13:00 GMT -8
In the last few days many prominent republican politicians and even republican blowhards like Hannity have come out requesting, demanding people get the vaccine. Now these conservatives are like a year behind in their concern regarding the virus but then maybe they figured out their voters and viewers are getting sick, dying at a faster rate than others. But better late than never.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 23, 2021 15:48:41 GMT -8
Gotta love free will, and not "groupthink". Freedom of choice is what has made this country the greatest nation in the world. You must mean "free ignorance", let me ask, what happens if a cop catches you not wearing your seat belt. Or not having your toddler in a protective seat in the back of the car? Statement like yours just make it harder on everyone to get out of this pandemic and puts us further behind in every aspect of our lives and our community! This is one of the goofiest posts on this thread, and that is saying something! Wearing a seat belt: Law Child in protective seat: Law Covid 19 Vaccine: Not a law (yet)
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Post by irimi on Jul 23, 2021 16:06:23 GMT -8
I am laughing at this post. It made my night. In fact, it was billthebeav who remarked about lying Republicans, not I. To be honest, I can simply judge the politicians by their followers. In my local area, I have seen those who will wear a mask and those who won’t, and the ones who don’t are primarily Republican. You can see the same on this board. Which begs the question: which are truly the sheep— the ones wearing a mask and getting vaccinated or the ones following their politics? If I was a condescension vampire, I could feast for a lifetime on this thread. If they are both wearing a mask and are vaccinated, they are clearly sheeple following their politics. Well said! Democrats' attempts to condescend people who are not vaccinated into getting vaccinated (or about anything else, really) are generally wildly unhelpful. First, please take a reading course. I can recommend several for nonnative speakers, though I suspect you would struggle in the upper level courses. Second, sheeple? Really? And yet, "Democrats' attempts to condescend people who are not vaccinated...." Lesson 1: Using your dictionary, look up the meaning of the word hypocrite.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 23, 2021 16:43:56 GMT -8
You must mean "free ignorance", let me ask, what happens if a cop catches you not wearing your seat belt. Or not having your toddler in a protective seat in the back of the car? Statement like yours just make it harder on everyone to get out of this pandemic and puts us further behind in every aspect of our lives and our community! This is one of the goofiest posts on this thread, and that is saying something! Wearing a seat belt: Law Child in protective seat: Law Covid 19 Vaccine: Not a law (yet) So the only reason you wear a seatbelt, or use a protective car seat for your child, is because it's the law, and not something simple and easy that keeps you and yours safe? Good to know.
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