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Post by irimi on May 9, 2021 15:52:02 GMT -8
Tough one! You know I was thinking with 2 outs in the 8th and McMahon not being held on 1st that we should steal (score 5-1) just in case we could come up with a hit...(peck away theory). I thought that the first strike call on Logan was almost at his ankles. Just a real tough one to lose. Same. McMahon probably should’ve taken second. Lots of questionable calls, I thought. I like that the Beavs tried to mount a comeback with 2 outs in the 9th.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 9, 2021 18:40:09 GMT -8
We haven't swept USC in forever. Win the series. Oregon State last swept USC in 2013.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 9, 2021 19:21:59 GMT -8
Pretty sure we needed this one to be in the mix to host.
Now we need Melton back.... and play resonably well to finish, and hope for a decent regional draw
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Post by 56chevy on May 9, 2021 20:16:49 GMT -8
Pretty sure we needed this one to be in the mix to host. Now we need Melton back.... and play resonably well to finish, and hope for a decent regional draw We were never in the mix to host, at least in Oregon. Boise State and Salt Lake City would be ahead of on the list if they applied.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 9, 2021 20:25:51 GMT -8
Pretty sure we needed this one to be in the mix to host. Now we need Melton back.... and play resonably well to finish, and hope for a decent regional draw We were never in the mix to host, at least in Oregon. Boise State and Salt Lake City would be ahead of on the list if they applied. Look I don't know what the attendance means for any of it. I'm talking strictly from wins/losses, RPI outlook and the fact that they are choosing 20 potential sites tomorrow.....win today we're inside top 20.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 9, 2021 22:53:16 GMT -8
Pretty sure we needed this one to be in the mix to host. Now we need Melton back.... and play reasonably well to finish, and hope for a decent regional draw We were never in the mix to host, at least in Oregon. Boise State and Salt Lake City would be ahead of on the list if they applied. Boise State doesn't have a baseball team. Corvallis is beautiful in June. Salt Lake City is only slightly less beautiful in June. Utah ain't hosting, though. The NCAA is going to announce 20 potential regional host sites in the next five days. Teams in the top 24 of RPI should be in this pool of 20 teams, unless there is a great reason for them not to host. Oregon State is now 31-15 and sits at 26 in RPI. With one more win, Oregon State would be 32-14 and sit at 21st in RPI. There are some mid-week games between now and the 14th. Maybe the Thursday and early Friday games are considered. Still, I would feel almost 100% better with this 20 potential regional site announcement at 32-14 then at 31-15. A National Seed would be tough. Oregon State would need to just about win out and probably still would need help. With the schedule and how well the conference has played, the Beavers earn a #1 seed at 38-17. Short of there, it gets dicier.
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Post by 56chevy on May 10, 2021 6:31:46 GMT -8
We were never in the mix to host, at least in Oregon. Boise State and Salt Lake City would be ahead of on the list if they applied. Boise State doesn't have a baseball team. Corvallis is beautiful in June. Salt Lake City is only slightly less beautiful in June. Utah ain't hosting, though. The NCAA is going to announce 20 potential regional host sites in the next five days. Teams in the top 24 of RPI should be in this pool of 20 teams, unless there is a great reason for them not to host. Oregon State is now 31-15 and sits at 26 in RPI. With one more win, Oregon State would be 32-14 and sit at 21st in RPI. There are some mid-week games between now and the 14th. Maybe the Thursday and early Friday games are considered. Still, I would feel almost 100% better with this 20 potential regional site announcement at 32-14 then at 31-15. A National Seed would be tough. Oregon State would need to just about win out and probably still would need help. With the schedule and how well the conference has played, the Beavers earn a #1 seed at 38-17. Short of there, it gets dicier. The NCAA makes money on the gate at these events. They would recieve far less revenue if they put regional in states that allow little to no attendance. Organizations and people generally do what is in their best financial interest. Arizona, yes. Nevada, yes. West Coast, I'd be shocked unless they get some assurances from the Governors offices in those states. Here's the really good news... Oregon should be a regional host in Eugene, and it's not likely to happen. My entire scenario could be wrong. But if it is, why is the NCAA breaking protocol and announcing potential regional hosts a month before they need to?
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Post by shelby on May 10, 2021 7:50:58 GMT -8
Just logically, it sure seems like you have to go one way or the other ( RPI or Follow the money ).. If you mix and match - anything that comes out of that becomes political and a critical mess for the NCAA. And RPI is also a questionable metric. Thus , I am thinking that the 'bigger gates ( $$$$ ), based on attendance (YTD ) , will get the nods ! There could be a leading qualifier ( Wild Card ), and that could be a guaranteed gate , where the schools in discussion would have to be responsible for any gate shortfalls. In this case, Uncle Phil steps up to the plate and delivers the opportunity to sucks . They are also playing in a minor league stadium ( good capacity ), and suck fans would fill the Rose Bowl for a mud wrestling team ( if they wore Nike thongs ) !
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 10, 2021 8:12:59 GMT -8
I think they have to forget about attendance and just pick the sites based on merit.....otherwise, it's kind of bulls%#t
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Post by mbabeav on May 10, 2021 11:37:15 GMT -8
I think they have to forget about attendance and just pick the sites based on merit.....otherwise, it's kind of bulls%#t Seriously, this is the NCAA we are talking about, they are past masters at the art of bulls%#t
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 10, 2021 12:37:30 GMT -8
Boise State doesn't have a baseball team. Corvallis is beautiful in June. Salt Lake City is only slightly less beautiful in June. Utah ain't hosting, though. The NCAA is going to announce 20 potential regional host sites in the next five days. Teams in the top 24 of RPI should be in this pool of 20 teams, unless there is a great reason for them not to host. Oregon State is now 31-15 and sits at 26 in RPI. With one more win, Oregon State would be 32-14 and sit at 21st in RPI. There are some mid-week games between now and the 14th. Maybe the Thursday and early Friday games are considered. Still, I would feel almost 100% better with this 20 potential regional site announcement at 32-14 then at 31-15. A National Seed would be tough. Oregon State would need to just about win out and probably still would need help. With the schedule and how well the conference has played, the Beavers earn a #1 seed at 38-17. Short of there, it gets dicier. The NCAA makes money on the gate at these events. They would receive far less revenue if they put regional in states that allow little to no attendance. Organizations and people generally do what is in their best financial interest. Arizona, yes. Nevada, yes. West Coast, I'd be shocked unless they get some assurances from the Governors offices in those states. Here's the really good news... Oregon should be a regional host in Eugene, and it's not likely to happen. My entire scenario could be wrong. But if it is, why is the NCAA breaking protocol and announcing potential regional hosts a month before they need to? The NCAA makes money on the accepted bid. And I forget what the promised kickback is, but it only applies to the first X number of attendees. After that, the gate goes to the schools (and most, if not all of it, to the host school). I believe that the host schools take the loss, though, if they cannot hit their attendance numbers. I believe that the NCAA only expects to make about half of what they normally would. If Oregon State bid, I would imagine that they would project out what they think that they will get and how much the NCAA will get. And the NCAA will take that under consideration. And, hopefully, Oregon State had someone working with the Oregon State government to try and game this all out. I do not believe that this is as willy nilly as you are making it out to be. Several things go into whether one team or another is a regional host. Attendance, politics, how good the host team is, weather, etc. They "why is the NCAA breaking protocol" is that the 20 finalists for regional hosts will have three weeks to show that they are able to comply with the NCAA COVID-19 attendance protocols. And if a school cannot comply, they will not be given one of the 16 regional host spots. The extra three weeks will also give the committee additional time to evaluate where it really wants to put the 64 teams in the end, as well.
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Post by mbabeav on May 10, 2021 14:15:28 GMT -8
The NCAA makes money on the gate at these events. They would receive far less revenue if they put regional in states that allow little to no attendance. Organizations and people generally do what is in their best financial interest. Arizona, yes. Nevada, yes. West Coast, I'd be shocked unless they get some assurances from the Governors offices in those states. Here's the really good news... Oregon should be a regional host in Eugene, and it's not likely to happen. My entire scenario could be wrong. But if it is, why is the NCAA breaking protocol and announcing potential regional hosts a month before they need to? The NCAA makes money on the accepted bid. And I forget what the promised kickback is, but it only applies to the first X number of attendees. After that, the gate goes to the schools (and most, if not all of it, to the host school). I believe that the host schools take the loss, though, if they cannot hit their attendance numbers. I believe that the NCAA only expects to make about half of what they normally would. If Oregon State bid, I would imagine that they would project out what they think that they will get and how much the NCAA will get. And the NCAA will take that under consideration. And, hopefully, Oregon State had someone working with the Oregon State government to try and game this all out. I do not believe that this is as willy nilly as you are making it out to be. Several things go into whether one team or another is a regional host. Attendance, politics, how good the host team is, weather, etc. They "why is the NCAA breaking protocol" is that the 20 finalists for regional hosts will have three weeks to show that they are able to comply with the NCAA COVID-19 attendance protocols. And if a school cannot comply, they will not be given one of the 16 regional host spots. The extra three weeks will also give the committee additional time to evaluate where it really wants to put the 64 teams in the end, as well. I hope you're right, be nice to be a host, even if we were the number 2 seed (assuming they would keep us home.
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