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Post by atownbeaver on May 6, 2021 16:23:03 GMT -8
The vaccines are effective, not perfect. There are and will continue to be "breakthrough" cases, which could potentially transfer to other unvaccinated individuals or those others for which the vaccine didn't work. Unless the efficacy rate is 100%, it doesn't work for everyone. The JNJ efficacy rate is 72%, the 2 mRNA vaccines are 95-ish. It felt like you were kidding about the MMR masking. Measles is serious.... the measles/flu/small pox trifecta killed something like 95% on the native population of the Americas some 600ish years ago - that's how serious novel viruses can be, and I'd like everyone to get vaccinated right now before it can mutate into something we can't vaccinate for without going through another government approval and testing process. If everyone got their first shot tomorrow, in something like 10-15 days a huge chunk of them would be to where their immune systems are learning how to deal with the existing variants. It could potentially be shut down by herd immunity at that point. Not knowing exactly how many people are needed to achieve herd immunity, the more who have immunity which has been primed by either vaccine or having had covid, the less likely it is to spread. I also am fully vaccinated, and I'm not worried about getting covid, but I had no reaction to the 2nd dose so I do not know for certain if I am or am not one of the 1 in 20 Pfizer recipients for which the vaccine didn't provide full protection. If they request masking when in close proximity for extended periods of time I'd play along to be courteous to the next person. This might be a dumb question, but can't you give blood and ensure that you were vaccinated? Most blood donation sites provide donors with COVID-19 antibody testing. If not, I encourage people to give blood anyway! It can help men avoid certain diseases and helps a lot of people that need blood to live. through about 8 weeks, at which point active circulating antibodies will leave the blood, however memory T-cells and B-Cells will persist, they just aren't readily detectibly in blood panels used by blood donation centers. memory T-cells and B-cells stimulate the killer B-cells to make the antibodies. when COVID is detected in the body in those vaccinated, antibodies are then readily produced, will circulated again for several weeks then diminish. Here is a randomly googled nature article that kind of covers it: www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00436-4Long story short, active antibodies dissipate relatively quickly, but memory cells persist for years. |
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Post by TheGlove on May 7, 2021 13:01:22 GMT -8
It is undetermined if vaccinated people can shed the virus or not, and of course vaccines are not 100% effective. It is extremely low burden yet offers reasonable additional protection. And lastly: people move about at baseball games and go to concourses and concession stands... I doubt those parts are fully segregated. I suspect that the conservative approach here is due to the amount of people who will lie about being vaccinated Bingo. I had the same thought. I just didn't want to post it because it seemed to be such a jaded point of view. Humans... |
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Post by sparty on May 8, 2021 10:21:35 GMT -8
Wait, what?? I’m confused af?? So Benton county is no more high risk? What changed?? What happened? Kate was one vote away in the legislature last week to rescind her powers to wave her magic sceptre so of course she backed off.
Politics my man, politics!
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Post by seastape on May 8, 2021 10:39:05 GMT -8
Is now a good time to bring up that there are 14 OSU players that will miss the spring scrimmage today due to Covid-19 protocols/testing? The vaccine is becoming more and more accessible (although distribution may actually be more difficult to complete as fewer and fewer want the vaccine) but cases are still being found. It just makes sense to act as if we were not out of the woods yet.
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Post by obf on May 14, 2021 12:46:01 GMT -8
It's a step, yes. But this makes no sense. Masks also will be required of all attendees. Even in the vaccinated section for vaccinated people. Why? Can you expand on this? A firend was saying something about being vaccinated protects you, but you still may be able to transmit without knowing, but it was just someone saying something they had heard, so it would be great to get a primer from someone with some knowledge  |
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Post by halverbk on May 14, 2021 14:49:18 GMT -8
It is undetermined if vaccinated people can shed the virus or not Can you expand on this? A firend was saying something about being vaccinated protects you, but you still may be able to transmit without knowing, but it was just someone saying something they had heard, so it would be great to get a primer from someone with some knowledge There is Zero chance of viral shedding from just being vaccinated because you are not being injected with the virus. |
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Post by mbabeav on May 14, 2021 14:58:30 GMT -8
Can you expand on this? A firend was saying something about being vaccinated protects you, but you still may be able to transmit without knowing, but it was just someone saying something they had heard, so it would be great to get a primer from someone with some knowledge There is Zero chance of viral shedding from just being vaccinated because you are not being injected with the virus. Anti-vacc types make up all kinds of things. Shedding virus because you are vaccinated lololol |
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Post by whocares on May 14, 2021 17:11:47 GMT -8
But if the vaccine isn't 100% effective, isn't it possible to contract a mild case of Covid, (not from the vaccination, from another source) and pass it on even after being vaccinated?
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Post by TheGlove on May 14, 2021 17:14:41 GMT -8
But if the vaccine isn't 100% effective, isn't it possible to contract a mild case of Covid, (not from the vaccination, from another source) and pass it on even after being vaccinated? Seems logical. |
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Post by mbabeav on May 14, 2021 17:15:00 GMT -8
But if the vaccine isn't 100% effective, isn't it possible to contract a mild case of Covid, (not from the vaccination, from another source) and pass it on after being vaccinated? One of the reasons for the CDC dropping the masks for vaccinated people is that they discovered even if infected, the body generates so few viruses due to the vaccination that the odds of the illness spreading to another person is almost zero. Not statistically zero, but you are a lot safer next to a vaccinated person than walking down the sidewalk of a city street during busy traffic. |
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Post by halverbk on May 18, 2021 7:08:08 GMT -8
But if the vaccine isn't 100% effective, isn't it possible to contract a mild case of Covid, (not from the vaccination, from another source) and pass it on even after being vaccinated? Yes. Being fully vaccinated reduces your chance of contracting a case of symptomatic COVID-19 by 95%. Not only is the severity decreased, but also the transmissibility to others. The latter is tougher to prove so it took longer. |
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