CONTENT ADVISORY: This thread is not about Beaver football.

13.4% of the population is African-American, so you would expect fewer.

Plus, both African-Americans and women have a lower dropout rate than white males for whatever reason. That is a statistic that you never hear, which is interesting, very intersting.

Ellen DeGeneres, Anna Wintour (Vogue), Rachel Ray, Kim Kardashian, Mary Kay Ash (Mary Kay), Addison Rae Easterling (ITEM Beauty), Maayan Gordon, Lucy Guo (Snapchat and Quora), Randalyn Hill (Cre8tives.com), Johanna Knapic, Kristen Leanne, etc.

Jay Z, P Diddy, Magic Johnson, Beyonce Knowles, Tyler Perry, Berry Gordy (Motown Records), Russell Simmons (Def Jam and Phat Fashions), Ladi Delano (Solid XS) and Donahue Peebles (real estate).

WTF?

I never called anyone who didn't go to college stupid. Never. 

And, spud, I never called you stupid. I was snarky with you, so I apologize as you didn't deserve that. my point, ultimately, was that finding examples of exceptions to the rule doesn't undermine the rule. The reason for saying "end of discussion" was, very bluntly, as you took exception too, cutting off all this little whattabouts. because we can sit here ALL day and whattabout this, and whattabout that. and you can add up every single last one of those whattabouts with COVID deaths and still not amount to any significant number that would change deaths by more than a fraction of a percent. 

but that is besides the point, I understand and respect your protests that people should listen to what others have to say and be open to their input. I have no problem being challenged or being disagreed with or even talking about this stuff. 

With Bennyskid, I said my bit. I never called him stupid, but I did make it clear he sounded like a person jealous of the accolades those with titles and degrees get while the blue collared working man languishes in the shadows. It is a tenor that has existed in this country since we became a country. hell as long as we have been a human race. the working class has always been adversarial with anyone identified as "The Elite"

The more recent shift, is scientists and doctors and I guess basically anybody with a college degree, now seem to be lumped in with "The Elite" these days, and face the distain previously just reserved for politicians and lawyers. 

I think, as Spud you are claiming, we'd all do well to try and actually understand each other. 

A good way to start is to not go around assuming scientists are all actually stupid and that is why there is confusion and misunderstanding around COVID. To be honest, that kid of attitude scares the bejesus outta me. 

Maybe I should have said LGBT.  Interesting.  Very interesting.
Or BIPOC.  Interesting.  Very interesting.

Those are good questions. You're really thinking now! Great!

I bet every one of these guys hired college graduates almost exclusively to work in R&D and tech support, etc., at their companies. Most high-level employees at Microsoft, Twitter et all are not high school dropouts.