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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 6, 2021 14:30:37 GMT -8
Tinkle has a Pac12 Conference Tournament Championship. It is not a Pac12 Conference Championship.........you should know this mr. wilkismartypants. We will not be hanging up a Pac12 Conference Championship banner, because we did not win the conference. The ucks did. We won the tourney. It is different in other conferences, but that distinction has always been made in the Pac10/Pac12. We are not "official" conference champions. And I have been one of the Tinkle defenders over the years. Not sure where that comment came from. I apologize. I was assuming from your Baylor comments. It could just be that you are a big Baylor fan? Dunno. Your statement about the distinction appears to be incorrect, because UCLA has been saying that their Pac-12 Tournament Championship in 2014 was a Pac-12 Conference Championship. Also, the Wildcats are referring to Oregon State as the 2021 Pac-12 Champion without distinction and merely referring to Oregon as the Regular Season Champion. There are a host of similar media referring to Oregon State as Pac-12 Champions without distinction. So, is there something that you are referring to that you are aware of, wherein the Regular Season Champion is the "Champion" and the Tournament Champion is not? Or what is the point of your distinction? The Pac 12 has always recognized the regular season champion as the conference champion. The also list the tourney champion on their website, but the regular season champion is the one they note as their conference champion for the year.. There are some other conferences that crown the tourney champ as the official conference champ for the year, but the Pac 12 is not one of them. That is why we have a 1990 Pac 10 Champions Banner in Gill. We won the regular season that year, but Arizona won the conference tourney.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 6, 2021 14:39:11 GMT -8
I don't think we will be hanging any banners. All team banners were removed from Gill when the new lighting system/scoreboard was added several years ago. Now they need to paint over those outdated murals.
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 6, 2021 14:44:29 GMT -8
I don't think we will be hanging any banners. All team banners were removed from Gill when the new lighting system/scoreboard was added several years ago. Now they need to paint over those outdated murals. Yes, I should have said "had". I don't mind some of the banners, but when we added CBI ones that was the last straw. There should be no NIT banners either. And, I agree on the murals.
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Post by beaver94 on Apr 6, 2021 15:01:31 GMT -8
I don't think we will be hanging any banners. All team banners were removed from Gill when the new lighting system/scoreboard was added several years ago. Now they need to paint over those outdated murals. I enjoy looking at the murals sometimes when I'm at games, but the picture does make them look outdated. You're probably right that it's time for a change.
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 6, 2021 18:03:46 GMT -8
Tinkle has won zero conference championships. 1 conference tourney championship. Thanks Debbie. You’re welcome Wanda. Didn’t say it wasn’t a great accomplishment. It’s just not a PAC 12 title.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 6, 2021 19:37:34 GMT -8
I apologize. I was assuming from your Baylor comments. It could just be that you are a big Baylor fan? Dunno. Your statement about the distinction appears to be incorrect, because UCLA has been saying that their Pac-12 Tournament Championship in 2014 was a Pac-12 Conference Championship. Also, the Wildcats are referring to Oregon State as the 2021 Pac-12 Champion without distinction and merely referring to Oregon as the Regular Season Champion. There are a host of similar media referring to Oregon State as Pac-12 Champions without distinction. So, is there something that you are referring to that you are aware of, wherein the Regular Season Champion is the "Champion" and the Tournament Champion is not? Or what is the point of your distinction? The Pac 12 has always recognized the regular season champion as the conference champion. The also list the tourney champion on their website, but the regular season champion is the one they note as their conference champion for the year.. There are some other conferences that crown the tourney champ as the official conference champ for the year, but the Pac 12 is not one of them. That is why we have a 1990 Pac 10 Champions Banner in Gill. We won the regular season that year, but Arizona won the conference tourney. Agreed. And it’s very simple. The regular season champion is the Conference Champion. The conference tournament winner wins the Conference’s single guaranteed NCAA tournament bid (any other bids are at-large) and is the Conference Tournament Champion. It’s really not that hard to understand. Tournament champion trophy Conference Championship (regular season) trophy
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Post by seastape on Apr 6, 2021 20:43:54 GMT -8
Who's the conference champion? The conference tourney winner, of course. I bought this t-shirt on the Oregon State Athletics website: shop.osubeavers.com/oregon-state-beavers/men/t-13339144+ga-89+z-968690-4020325382?_s=bm-osubeaversite&utm_medium=referralOn the tshirt, it says, "2021 Pac-12 Men's Basketball Champions Oregon State." I used to think the conference champion was from the regular season, but I don't think so. Like all post-season play, who wins the post-season tournament is the champion, not the regular season best record. Go back down the list of NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL, etc. champions: it was never the team with the best record; it was the team who won the post-season tournament. Same with Div. 1-AA, Div-II, and Div. III NCAA football. There have been plenty of teams that were not #1 seeds in the NCAA basketball Tournament that won the whole thing. Their regular season record doesn't matter for jack anymore. How many people outside of Oregon State know what our regular season baseball record was in 2007? Answer is very few. But they know they can look it up and find out who won the college world series. The only time that it matters who had the best regilar-season conference record is when there is no post-season conference tournament. Not convicned? THe NCAA is. The automatic bids to the NCAA basketball tournament go to the conference tourney winners, not the teams with the regular season best conference record. Best conference record means nothing for a lot of conferences; it is only the conference tournament winners.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 6, 2021 21:08:55 GMT -8
Who's the conference champion? The conference tourney winner, of course. I bought this t-shirt on the Oregon State Athletics website: shop.osubeavers.com/oregon-state-beavers/men/t-13339144+ga-89+z-968690-4020325382?_s=bm-osubeaversite&utm_medium=referralOn the tshirt, it says, "2021 Pac-12 Men's Basketball Champions Oregon State." I used to think the conference champion was from the regular season, but I don't think so. Like all post-season play, who wins the post-season tournament is the champion, not the regular season best record. Go back down the list of NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL, etc. champions: it was never the team with the best record; it was the team who won the post-season tournament. Same with Div. 1-AA, Div-II, and Div. III NCAA football. There have been plenty of teams that were not #1 seeds in the NCAA basketball Tournament that won the whole thing. Their regular season record doesn't matter for jack anymore. How many people outside of Oregon State know what our regular season baseball record was in 2007? Answer is very few. But they know they can look it up and find out who won the college world series. The only time that it matters who had the best regilar-season conference record is when there is no post-season conference tournament. Not convicned? THe NCAA is. The automatic bids to the NCAA basketball tournament go to the conference tourney winners, not the teams with the regular season best conference record. Best conference record means nothing for a lot of conferences; it is only the conference tournament winners. Believe whatever you want pal. Nobody's gonna stop you. If it says it on a t-shirt it must be true.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Apr 6, 2021 21:28:40 GMT -8
Looks like the person who inscribed the 2016 trophy was a UofO English major............"Campion"
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 6, 2021 21:32:22 GMT -8
Looks like the person who inscribed the 2016 trophy was a UofO English major............"Campion" Hard to get good help these days.
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 7, 2021 4:50:30 GMT -8
Who's the conference champion? The conference tourney winner, of course. I bought this t-shirt on the Oregon State Athletics website: shop.osubeavers.com/oregon-state-beavers/men/t-13339144+ga-89+z-968690-4020325382?_s=bm-osubeaversite&utm_medium=referralOn the tshirt, it says, "2021 Pac-12 Men's Basketball Champions Oregon State." I used to think the conference champion was from the regular season, but I don't think so. Like all post-season play, who wins the post-season tournament is the champion, not the regular season best record. Go back down the list of NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL, etc. champions: it was never the team with the best record; it was the team who won the post-season tournament. Same with Div. 1-AA, Div-II, and Div. III NCAA football. There have been plenty of teams that were not #1 seeds in the NCAA basketball Tournament that won the whole thing. Their regular season record doesn't matter for jack anymore. How many people outside of Oregon State know what our regular season baseball record was in 2007? Answer is very few. But they know they can look it up and find out who won the college world series. The only time that it matters who had the best regilar-season conference record is when there is no post-season conference tournament. Not convicned? THe NCAA is. The automatic bids to the NCAA basketball tournament go to the conference tourney winners, not the teams with the regular season best conference record. Best conference record means nothing for a lot of conferences; it is only the conference tournament winners. The description of the t shirt even says tournament champions. Many other conferences recognize their tournament champion as their conference champion, but that is not how it works in the Pac-12. Doesn’t mean I won’t buy a shirt though.
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Post by ag87 on Apr 7, 2021 6:35:08 GMT -8
Yea, but is it a skull cap or a batting helmet?
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 7, 2021 8:03:28 GMT -8
We are the Campions?
I wonder if the league might fix the trophy?
I'm pretty sure I've seen campions on hikes. They are cute, but I'd think the athletic department would prefer a basketball trophy.
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Post by mbabeav on Apr 7, 2021 11:13:42 GMT -8
Looks like the person who inscribed the 2016 trophy was a UofO English major............"Campion" Looks like someone did a nice little photoshop job on that trophy.......Mr. Ramp, fess up
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 7, 2021 12:37:08 GMT -8
I can tell you, at my age few things are more satisfying than an extended tinkle.
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