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Post by avidbeaver on Mar 29, 2021 18:47:52 GMT -8
Much like it was in 2005 for baseball. Not the most talented team, won the conference, nice run to the big stage, but ended in a BBQ in Omaha. I'm looking forward to what the next 15+ years will present from Coach Tinkle and the program. Dang it .... that first half...what a comeback to tie it but couldn’t pull it out Its what usually happens when a team down double digits comes back to tie the game they can't get over the top. What could have been if they didn't have issues in the first half. Have to come to play a complete game this far into the tournament.
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 29, 2021 18:53:59 GMT -8
. Really? I’ll pass on the whine you make with those sour grapes. Really! Sampson played a role in the controversial recruitment of star player Eric Gordon, who signed with Indiana after reneging on an early verbal commitment to the University of Illinois. Sampson was criticized by fellow coaches for failing to communicate with then-Illinois coach Bruce Weber about the recruitment,[8] and hiring people close to Gordon to gain favor.[9] Some observers said that Sampson's recruitment of the verbally-committed Gordon was unethical, but legal.[10] In addition to the Gordon incident, Sampson has been in the middle of a number of other controversies. Under Sampson's watch, Oklahoma was placed under a three-year investigation by the NCAA for recruiting violations. At the end of their investigation, the NCAA issued a report citing more than 550 impermissible calls made by Sampson and his staff to 17 different recruits. The NCAA barred Sampson from recruiting off campus and making phone calls for one year, ending May 24, 2007.[11] Prior to the findings by the NCAA, Kelvin Sampson was the President of the National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC), an organization that supports basketball coaches across the country. During his tenure the Ethics Committee of the NABC was formed to address the many problems with violations that college basketball faced going into the 2003 season. That very same Ethics Committee would later reprimand Kelvin Sampson as a result of the NCAA findings, placing him on probation for three years during which he would not be eligible to serve in any official capacity for the NABC, be considered for Coach of the Year honors or receive Final Four ticket privileges.[12] As coach at Indiana in October 2007, Sampson again came under scrutiny for making impermissible phone calls. Despite being restricted from making any outbound recruiting phone calls, Sampson participated in approximately 10 conference calls with recruits that violate the terms of the sanctions levied against him by the NCAA. IU assistant Rob Senderoff (who later resigned) also made some 35 impermissible phone calls to recruits from his home. On February 8, 2008, the NCAA informed Indiana that Sampson had committed five "major" rules violations. The NCAA alleged that Sampson knowingly violated telephone recruiting restrictions imposed on him. More seriously, the NCAA also alleged that Sampson lied to IU and NCAA officials regarding his involvement in the impermissible calls.[13] Indiana launched an internal investigation that school president Michael McRobbie said would take seven days. On February 14, 2008, ESPN reported that Sampson's status as coach of the Hoosiers would be decided on a "game-by-game basis.".[14] Fox Sports reported that Sampson was to be fired on February 22, 2008,[15] but later reports indicated that Sampson would be suspended without pay. Eventually it was announced that Sampson would resign, reaching a $750,000 settlement with Indiana. In return, Sampson agreed not to sue Indiana for wrongful termination. Assistant Dan Dakich was named as interim head coach for the rest of the season.[16] According to many college basketball pundits, however, Sampson had virtually no chance of keeping his job once the allegations broke. Sports Illustrated college basketball columnist Seth Davis implied that Indiana officials had already decided Sampson was guilty, based on the fact that its internal investigation would only last a week. The NCAA had given Indiana 90 days to respond to the notice.[17] ESPN's Mark Schlabach suggested that Indiana wanted to look for a reason not to pay the remaining money he was owed on his contract, and also wanted to eliminate any chance of being sued. He also said that the only reason Sampson was allowed to continue coaching was because his contract didn't allow the school to suspend him immediately.[18] ESPN's Pat Forde said that Sampson's departure was "preordained" the moment the NCAA sent out its notice of allegations, and suggested that Sampson might never coach in Division I again.[19] During a private meeting with the NCAA infractions committee on June 30, McRobbie apologized for hiring Sampson and called that decision a mistake. McRobbie said that Sampson betrayed his trust as Indiana's coach, and demonstrated that his hiring had been "a risk that should not have been taken."[20] On November 25, 2008, the NCAA slapped Indiana with three years' probation for violations largely tied to Sampson's watch. It also imposed a five-year show-cause order on Sampson, meaning that any NCAA member school who wanted to hire Sampson while the order was in effect would have to impose sanctions on him unless it can "show cause" that Sampson has served his punishment. However, most NCAA members will not even consider hiring a coach with an outstanding show-cause order, so the show-cause effectively blackballed Sampson from coaching at the major-college level until 2013. A similar incident happened to Todd Bozeman, who was slapped with an eight-year show-cause order in 1996 and was unable to find work in the college ranks again until 2006. Senderoff, now head coach at Kent State, was hit with a three-year show-cause order.[21] When he was hired at Houston, Sampson became only the fourth coach to get a head coaching job at another school after receiving a show-cause (after Bozeman, Senderoff and Bruce Pearl). In December 2008, Eric Gordon raised issues of drug use on the Indiana team, stating that some players were abusing drugs and that this led to the disintegration of the team, and that Sampson tried to stop it, but did not as he was focused on winning.[22] Yep. Broke the rules while on probation for breaking the rules! Ha ha! Longest section of his Wiki.
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Post by babeav on Mar 29, 2021 19:02:49 GMT -8
Ahmad Rand may be the 6’8 pogo stick we need....with Alatishe they will be glass cleaners and rim protectors
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Post by speakthetruth on Mar 29, 2021 19:05:17 GMT -8
I expect at least two of the following three to hit the tranfer portal Franklin, Johnson, and Tucker.
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Post by beavsaregood on Mar 29, 2021 19:22:38 GMT -8
Are some of the seniors coming back next year?
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 29, 2021 19:25:28 GMT -8
Are some of the seniors coming back next year? [b Silva is. Thompson and Reichle most likely gone.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 29, 2021 19:26:19 GMT -8
I expect at least two of the following three to hit the tranfer portal Franklin, Johnson, and Tucker. Tucker wouldn’t shock me. Johnson and Franklin both have good potential. Hope they stay.
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Post by babeav on Mar 29, 2021 19:27:38 GMT -8
Ahmad Rand may be the 6’8 pogo stick we need....with Alatishe they will be glass cleaners and rim protectors
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 29, 2021 19:29:00 GMT -8
. Really? I’ll pass on the whine you make with those sour grapes. Really! Sampson played a role in the controversial recruitment of star player Eric Gordon, who signed with Indiana after reneging on an early verbal commitment to the University of Illinois. Sampson was criticized by fellow coaches for failing to communicate with then-Illinois coach Bruce Weber about the recruitment,[8] and hiring people close to Gordon to gain favor.[9] Some observers said that Sampson's recruitment of the verbally-committed Gordon was unethical, but legal.[10] In addition to the Gordon incident, Sampson has been in the middle of a number of other controversies. Under Sampson's watch, Oklahoma was placed under a three-year investigation by the NCAA for recruiting violations. At the end of their investigation, the NCAA issued a report citing more than 550 impermissible calls made by Sampson and his staff to 17 different recruits. The NCAA barred Sampson from recruiting off campus and making phone calls for one year, ending May 24, 2007.[11] Prior to the findings by the NCAA, Kelvin Sampson was the President of the National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC), an organization that supports basketball coaches across the country. During his tenure the Ethics Committee of the NABC was formed to address the many problems with violations that college basketball faced going into the 2003 season. That very same Ethics Committee would later reprimand Kelvin Sampson as a result of the NCAA findings, placing him on probation for three years during which he would not be eligible to serve in any official capacity for the NABC, be considered for Coach of the Year honors or receive Final Four ticket privileges.[12] As coach at Indiana in October 2007, Sampson again came under scrutiny for making impermissible phone calls. Despite being restricted from making any outbound recruiting phone calls, Sampson participated in approximately 10 conference calls with recruits that violate the terms of the sanctions levied against him by the NCAA. IU assistant Rob Senderoff (who later resigned) also made some 35 impermissible phone calls to recruits from his home. On February 8, 2008, the NCAA informed Indiana that Sampson had committed five "major" rules violations. The NCAA alleged that Sampson knowingly violated telephone recruiting restrictions imposed on him. More seriously, the NCAA also alleged that Sampson lied to IU and NCAA officials regarding his involvement in the impermissible calls.[13] Indiana launched an internal investigation that school president Michael McRobbie said would take seven days. On February 14, 2008, ESPN reported that Sampson's status as coach of the Hoosiers would be decided on a "game-by-game basis.".[14] Fox Sports reported that Sampson was to be fired on February 22, 2008,[15] but later reports indicated that Sampson would be suspended without pay. Eventually it was announced that Sampson would resign, reaching a $750,000 settlement with Indiana. In return, Sampson agreed not to sue Indiana for wrongful termination. Assistant Dan Dakich was named as interim head coach for the rest of the season.[16] According to many college basketball pundits, however, Sampson had virtually no chance of keeping his job once the allegations broke. Sports Illustrated college basketball columnist Seth Davis implied that Indiana officials had already decided Sampson was guilty, based on the fact that its internal investigation would only last a week. The NCAA had given Indiana 90 days to respond to the notice.[17] ESPN's Mark Schlabach suggested that Indiana wanted to look for a reason not to pay the remaining money he was owed on his contract, and also wanted to eliminate any chance of being sued. He also said that the only reason Sampson was allowed to continue coaching was because his contract didn't allow the school to suspend him immediately.[18] ESPN's Pat Forde said that Sampson's departure was "preordained" the moment the NCAA sent out its notice of allegations, and suggested that Sampson might never coach in Division I again.[19] During a private meeting with the NCAA infractions committee on June 30, McRobbie apologized for hiring Sampson and called that decision a mistake. McRobbie said that Sampson betrayed his trust as Indiana's coach, and demonstrated that his hiring had been "a risk that should not have been taken."[20] On November 25, 2008, the NCAA slapped Indiana with three years' probation for violations largely tied to Sampson's watch. It also imposed a five-year show-cause order on Sampson, meaning that any NCAA member school who wanted to hire Sampson while the order was in effect would have to impose sanctions on him unless it can "show cause" that Sampson has served his punishment. However, most NCAA members will not even consider hiring a coach with an outstanding show-cause order, so the show-cause effectively blackballed Sampson from coaching at the major-college level until 2013. A similar incident happened to Todd Bozeman, who was slapped with an eight-year show-cause order in 1996 and was unable to find work in the college ranks again until 2006. Senderoff, now head coach at Kent State, was hit with a three-year show-cause order.[21] When he was hired at Houston, Sampson became only the fourth coach to get a head coaching job at another school after receiving a show-cause (after Bozeman, Senderoff and Bruce Pearl). In December 2008, Eric Gordon raised issues of drug use on the Indiana team, stating that some players were abusing drugs and that this led to the disintegration of the team, and that Sampson tried to stop it, but did not as he was focused on winning.[22] As an Illinois fan, I’m more than aware of Sampson’s violations. Would I hire him? No. But those past violations had nothing to do with what happened on the court tonight. Just as the Beavers past vacated tourney wins had no bearing on this game or this Beavers team.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 29, 2021 19:30:25 GMT -8
Ahmad Rand may be the 6’8 pogo stick we need....with Alatishe they will be glass cleaners and rim protectors But what about Ahmad Rand?
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Post by qbeaver on Mar 29, 2021 19:36:56 GMT -8
Even with getting killed on the boards,if we hit our free throws like normal,we win. Really proud of the no quit effort and run the last month. You have given us a lifetime of memories that we all will cherish after such a slow start. Kudos to the players and staff
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 29, 2021 19:40:03 GMT -8
I don't see us getting faster or quicker at half. Yet somehow we did. One of many posts on this thread that did not age well. I'm disappointed but not crushed. You don't get to 28-3 like Houston is without being very good. Houston destroyed Syracuse on Saturday, and also won its first-round game by 31. We shocked the basketball world and made the Elite 8 by beating a 5, a 3, and an 8 and then had to play a 2. That's an awfully big ask for a 12 seed; there's a good reason only two #12 seeds have made it to the Elite 8 since the tournament went to a full four rounds before the Final Four. It's pretty freaking hard. Too many things had to go absolutely perfectly for us to win. Houston rebounded well and it seemed like most 50-50 balls bounced their way. Their defense made us expend a lot of energy and I think we were just gassed at the end. It's a game we could have won, but one Houston fully deserved to win. My congrats to the team and staff for a spectacular, memorable season. There are 357 NCAA Division I teams and 349 of them were watching us play tonight. Now let's build on this so it's not another 5-6 years between tournament appearances.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 29, 2021 19:47:54 GMT -8
I don't see us getting faster or quicker at half. Yet somehow we did. One of many posts on this thread that did not age well. I'm disappointed but not crushed. You don't get to 28-3 like Houston is without being very good. Houston destroyed Syracuse on Saturday, and also won its first-round game by 31. We shocked the basketball world and made the Elite 8 by beating a 5, a 3, and an 8 and then had to play a 2. That's an awfully big ask for a 12 seed; there's a good reason only two #12 seeds have made it to the Elite 8 in the tournament's 64-team history. It's freaking hard. Too many things had to go absolutely perfectly for us to win. Houston rebounded well and it seemed like most 50-50 balls bounced their way. Their defense made us expend a lot of energy and I think we were just gassed at the end. It's a game we could have one, but one Houston fully deserved to win. My congrats to the team and staff for a spectacular, memorable season. There are 357 NCAA Division I teams and 349 of them were watching us play tonight. Now let's build on this so it's not another 5-6 years between tournament appearances. Very likely the best team we played all season. Per current Massey Ratings 5 Houston 6 USC 10 Colorado 12 *ucks 13 UCLA 16 Loyola-Chicago 25 OkSt 30 Arizona 33 Tennessee And we lost by 6.
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Post by seastape on Mar 29, 2021 19:50:36 GMT -8
I don't see us getting faster or quicker at half. Yet somehow we did. One of many posts on this thread that did not age well. I'm disappointed but not crushed. You don't get to 28-3 like Houston is without being very good. Houston destroyed Syracuse on Saturday, and also won its first-round game by 31. We shocked the basketball world and made the Elite 8 by beating a 5, a 3, and an 8 and then had to play a 2. That's an awfully big ask for a 12 seed; there's a good reason only two #12 seeds have made it to the Elite 8 since the tournament went to a full four rounds before the Final Four. It's pretty freaking hard. Too many things had to go absolutely perfectly for us to win. Houston rebounded well and it seemed like most 50-50 balls bounced their way. Their defense made us expend a lot of energy and I think we were just gassed at the end. It's a game we could have won, but one Houston fully deserved to win. My congrats to the team and staff for a spectacular, memorable season. There are 357 NCAA Division I teams and 349 of them were watching us play tonight. Now let's build on this so it's not another 5-6 years between tournament appearances. There's a lot to build on, since you mention it. There's a lot of good contributors coming back next year and some good recruits in the wings. Go Tinkle! Advance the program!
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Post by collegiate on Mar 29, 2021 20:06:51 GMT -8
I feel the need for two threads about this game... one to express my great appreciation for this remarkable team (what a joy to see their transformation into a super tough out) and one to indulge my baser instincts (I wonder how the game would have played out with a few over the back calls in the first half? Or, at least, awarding us the ball when they came over the top to force it out of bounds). Officiating to the style of play/reputation of a team is a very real thing in the tournament. Yes, we could have won it by making some more free throws and/or avoiding some untimely turnovers.
So glad this team fought back in this final game. I’m not surprised in the least. But it was scary at halftime, and it would have been so inappropriate for this team to go out in a blowout.
In the end... A big thank you to the players and coaches for providing us Beaver fans many shining moments!
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