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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Mar 15, 2021 7:25:58 GMT -8
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Post by jefframp on Mar 15, 2021 7:42:08 GMT -8
I picked the exact same #12s vs. #5s in the bracket that I filled out last night, with Villanova being the only #5 to advance. Probably a guaranteed "kiss of death". LOL
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 15, 2021 7:46:59 GMT -8
We got a very tough draw. Tennessee has 2 top-15 NBA draft picks that we will need to contain. We are going to need our best defensive effort of the year. They are not a real big team, so on offense, we are going to need to get the ball inside. |
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 15, 2021 8:24:20 GMT -8
We got a very tough draw. Tennessee has 2 top-15 NBA draft picks that we will need to contain. We are going to need our best defensive effort of the year. They are not a real big team, so on offense, we are going to need to get the ball inside. I haven't seen Springer listed that high, but yea, they have talent - 4 guys listed on the full draft list: www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/4That said, we've already beaten teams with guys rated high on that list. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 15, 2021 8:37:04 GMT -8
We got a very tough draw. Tennessee has 2 top-15 NBA draft picks that we will need to contain. We are going to need our best defensive effort of the year. They are not a real big team, so on offense, we are going to need to get the ball inside. I haven't seen Springer listed that high, but yea, they have talent - 4 guys listed on the full draft list: www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/4That said, we've already beaten teams with guys rated high on that list. On the positive side, it doesn't sound like Fulkerson will play. He is their big guy that took a cheap shot in the face against Florida. That is going to make them a much smaller team. |
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Post by beavheart on Mar 15, 2021 8:59:48 GMT -8
On the positive side, it doesn't sound like Fulkerson will play. He is their big guy that took a cheap shot in the face against Florida. That is going to make them a much smaller team. Fulkerson is a 6'9" forward and a RS-Sr so definitely a loss for them. He is 4th on the team with 26min/game. Only 7 guys with more than 7min a game for them, so someone else will need to step up for the Vols to replace his minutes. Sometimes a loss like this will get a team to circle the wagons and pick up their play everywhere else. Have to be ready for a battle with these guys because they will certainly be a bit of a wounded animal at this point. Btw, if you didn't see the cheap shot against him it is vicious! Man, I would be PISSED if this was one of our guys. Really hard to imagine that the Florida player didn't know exactly what he was doing. Literally took a swipe at the guy first while he was facing him. Super weak maneuver from Florida big man. |
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Mar 15, 2021 9:04:35 GMT -8
Definitely a cheap shot
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 15, 2021 9:13:17 GMT -8
I honestly don't understand why this stuff isn't simply handled by law enforcement - this seems a clear-cut case of battery to me. I understand sometimes it's part of the sport, but I don't see how that could be inferred here.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 15, 2021 9:25:44 GMT -8
On the positive side, it doesn't sound like Fulkerson will play. He is their big guy that took a cheap shot in the face against Florida. That is going to make them a much smaller team. Fulkerson is a 6'9" forward and a RS-Sr so definitely a loss for them. He is 4th on the team with 26min/game. Only 7 guys with more than 7min a game for them, so someone else will need to step up for the Vols to replace his minutes. Sometimes a loss like this will get a team to circle the wagons and pick up their play everywhere else. Have to be ready for a battle with these guys because they will certainly be a bit of a wounded animal at this point. Btw, if you didn't see the cheap shot against him it is vicious! Man, I would be PISSED if this was one of our guys. Really hard to imagine that the Florida player didn't know exactly what he was doing. Literally took a swipe at the guy first while he was facing him. Super weak maneuver from Florida big man. And he actually hit him twice in the face. Once with the forearm and then he turns and hits him again with an elbow. |
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Post by beavheart on Mar 15, 2021 10:34:34 GMT -8
And he actually hit him twice in the face. Once with the forearm and then he turns and hits him again with an elbow. Exactly. Pretty hard to think that elbow was an errant basketball play when he literally stands there facing the guy and tries to clock him on the chin with his elbow. He missed, basically. Then they both start heading up the court, he knows exactly where Fulkerson is and can feel him on his back as he throws another haymaker. That elbow is as clear-cut of an intentional flagrant foul as you are likely to find. As someone else pointed out, at some point a play like that starts to blur the line between a flagrant foul and straight up criminal action. |
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 15, 2021 10:56:25 GMT -8
It's definitely a flagrant foul. But "criminal action" . . . really? Let's calm down a bit. This is about as criminal as a PbP guy accidentally calling us "Oregon" in the heat of the action. Stuff happens bang-bang fast and people make mistakes.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 15, 2021 11:34:20 GMT -8
And he actually hit him twice in the face. Once with the forearm and then he turns and hits him again with an elbow. Exactly. Pretty hard to think that elbow was an errant basketball play when he literally stands there facing the guy and tries to clock him on the chin with his elbow. He missed, basically. Then they both start heading up the court, he knows exactly where Fulkerson is and can feel him on his back as he throws another haymaker. That elbow is as clear-cut of an intentional flagrant foul as you are likely to find. As someone else pointed out, at some point a play like that starts to blur the line between a flagrant foul and straight up criminal action. I don't know. Jarmal Reid was able to make his way out of Utah without criminal charges. |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 15, 2021 11:58:49 GMT -8
It's definitely a flagrant foul. But "criminal action" . . . really? Let's calm down a bit. This is about as criminal as a PbP guy accidentally calling us "Oregon" in the heat of the action. Stuff happens bang-bang fast and people make mistakes. In the NBA that would have been a suspension/fine kind of situation, and I don't think the refs and coaches would have been able to stop the teams from mixing it up, so yah, that's a mistake in the vein of "my diabetes 1 was acting up and that is why I did it". |
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Post by mountainbeaver on Mar 15, 2021 12:07:54 GMT -8
Definitely suspension worthy. The second elbow was pretty flagrant,
but it gets rough in there. I remember a game back in the late 70s
when our star forward Ricky Lee nearly decapitated one of Dick
Harters ducks who had been cheap shoting him all game. He was
smart enough to do it when the refs were heading up court and didn't
see it. Good times!
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Post by atownbeaver on Mar 15, 2021 12:29:51 GMT -8
It's definitely a flagrant foul. But "criminal action" . . . really? Let's calm down a bit. This is about as criminal as a PbP guy accidentally calling us "Oregon" in the heat of the action. Stuff happens bang-bang fast and people make mistakes. Concussions are no laughing matter anymore. However, with that said, anytime we can ever avoid the police being involved with anything, ever, the better off we all are. A lot of people have broken the law in the heat of action... doesn't excuse it. In no universe was this accidental contact. This was an intend to hit and injure somebody. There should be severe consequences for the player, that involve a multiple game suspension, including into next season (not bothering to google what class he is in). |
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