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Post by rilesinnewberg on Mar 6, 2021 9:48:32 GMT -8
Per ESPN:
The good news for the Pac-12 is that Oregon State's win -- the Beavers' second in a row against a NET top-10 opponent on the road - puts it safely in the field. In two weeks, the Beavers have moved from the Next Four Out to a No. 10 seed in this week's projection. Oregon State has had 11 games postponed or canceled, more than any other team in the conference. Now getting to play consistently, the Beavers are trending in the right direction -- the exact opposite of their in-state rival. Oregon is a No. 5 seed in Monday's bracket.
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Post by beavheart on Mar 6, 2021 9:51:04 GMT -8
What a stupid year. Whatever seed the Beavs get, it will be too low. Now that everyone is really playing I think it's pretty obvious that OSU is, at worst, the 4th best team in the Pac-12. I hope the selection committee has the wisdom to look past all the records and ratings (which are flawed enough in a normal year), and see what's actually going on with this team.
Meanwhile, I'm kind of watching UCONN for the first time this year, and snoooooore. BigEast tourney looks like JV action compared to the Pac12 tournament. Their opponent (St Johns) is turrible! Can't hit a shot to save their life. Color me unimpressed. Just so much that could never be captured in whatever rating permutation you want to come up with. I suppose it is what it is, but it seems pretty silly that a team like UCONN is basically born on 3rd base by virtue of playing in a garbage conference. It doesn't matter as much this year, but they would be rewarded with home court advantage throughout the tournament normally based on their "awesome" record, when in reality you are comparing apples to oranges.
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Post by fmpol on Mar 6, 2021 10:36:03 GMT -8
Ha, I noticed that too. I think he meant to put Oregon as the 6 seed in the Mercado Region but accidentally put in the name of South Dakota State. Note that in the Hemisfair Region, SDSU is the 6 seed and annotated as an automatic qualifier, whereas SDSU is a 6 seed and an at-large in the Mercado Region. So yeah, he pegs Oregon as a 6. Maybe he'll correct this by the time you read this. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 6, 2021 11:14:29 GMT -8
Thats hilarious. Sorry *ucks. |
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 6, 2021 22:27:02 GMT -8
This NET thing is insane. The Ducks lose to the Beav's who are in the 30's and don't lose a spot in the NET. The Beav's lose to #1 Stanford and drop 4 spots. How is this in any way logical?
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Post by wbosh15 on Mar 7, 2021 7:07:31 GMT -8
This NET thing is insane. The Ducks lose to the Beav's who are in the 30's and don't lose a spot in the NET. The Beav's lose to #1 Stanford and drop 4 spots. How is this in any way logical? Net also heavily uses margin of victory. It wasn’t the loss that caused the drop, it was getting blown out. Lose by 8 no problem, lose by 30 your ranking will take a hit. |
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 7, 2021 13:59:38 GMT -8
This NET thing is insane. The Ducks lose to the Beav's who are in the 30's and don't lose a spot in the NET. The Beav's lose to #1 Stanford and drop 4 spots. How is this in any way logical? Net also heavily uses margin of victory. It wasn’t the loss that caused the drop, it was getting blown out. Lose by 8 no problem, lose by 30 your ranking will take a hit. Hence the while point. In terms of NET ranking, OSU would have been better off losing the duck game, particularly given the tournament schedule. Anytime the algorithm works against you for winning a game, it’s problematic. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 6:09:53 GMT -8
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Post by lotrader on Mar 8, 2021 7:11:04 GMT -8
We match up best vs UCONN vs any other #1. Other than Stanford, South Carolina would be the toughest match up for OSU, given their ability to quickly transition to offense at breakneck speed. |
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Post by beaverfever148 on Mar 8, 2021 12:02:35 GMT -8
We match up best vs UCONN vs any other #1. Other than Stanford, South Carolina would be the toughest match up for OSU, given their ability to quickly transition to offense at breakneck speed. I’d love to see Sasha get a stab at defensively shutting down Paige Bueckers. |
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Post by wbosh15 on Mar 11, 2021 8:31:05 GMT -8
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Post by lotrader on Mar 11, 2021 8:42:47 GMT -8
If there is any justice for this OSU WBB Team, we will be in UCONN's bracket. Not to say that beating Syracuse is going to be easy, cause it won't be easy if that is our 1st round opponent. Our best chances of advancing beyond 2nd round is against UCONN. |
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Post by greybeav on Mar 11, 2021 9:50:07 GMT -8
lotrader, I'd love to hear more (sorry if you already said earlier and I missed it). Why is Uconn our best matchup? I understand avoiding Stanford, and am not savvy enough to diagnose the rest, thanks for any help.
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Post by osu82 on Mar 11, 2021 10:21:17 GMT -8
Creme’s brackets aren’t always the same as the selection committee, so we’ll just have to see where they end up. Interestingly, Massey Ratings has OSU #18, Syracuse #34. UCONN is #2 behind Stanford.
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Post by lotrader on Mar 11, 2021 10:53:43 GMT -8
lotrader, I'd love to hear more (sorry if you already said earlier and I missed it). Why is Uconn our best matchup? I understand avoiding Stanford, and am not savvy enough to diagnose the rest, thanks for any help. Of course, just my opinion, but first thought is UCONN plays in a weak conference, and even though they have won vs South Carolina, South Carolina has a much better post player than UCONN. South Carolina has more athletic 4's, and, very quick guards that run the floor like Stanford. South Carolina plays in arguably the best conference, and, is battle tested. That also goes for Texas A&M (same conference). UCONN has terrific players as well, but defensively, OSU matches up well vs UCONN. UCONN lost to Arkansas, and, nearly lost to Tennessee. Arkansas has a 3-point offense, and Tennessee has tall athletic wings/post players. OSU has both of these attributes. UCONN has some great talent like Page Bueckers, and, great coaching staff. So does OSU. I really think that if UCONN played in the PAC-12, they would definitely have more than 1 loss this season, and, probably not a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament. OSU's Achilles heel lately has been defending quick transition teams. Don't misunderstand, UCONN will be a very tough game if OSU gets by the 1st round opponent, but, I really feel our best opportunity is to be in the same bracket with UCONN. Now, this is based upon OSU being a #8/#9 seed where we would face #1 seed in 2nd round. I reserve the right to change my view if we're not a #8/#9 seed. |
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