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Post by beaveragain on Feb 22, 2021 16:03:25 GMT -8
Coach also loves Taya's defense. Out of the starting 5 Taya's defense analytics were number one against UCLA, and she was defending Onyenwere when they were in the game together. The Beavers inside defense is one of the best in the country and one of the reasons is Taya.
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Post by lotrader on Feb 22, 2021 16:10:25 GMT -8
Coach also loves Taya's defense. Out of the starting 5 Taya's defense analytics were number one against UCLA, and she was defending Onyenwere when they were in the game together. The Beavers inside defense is one of the best in the country and one of the reasons is Taya. So true about Taya. If you reflect back on what was obviously different about OSU this weekend: DEFENSE & Rebounding. Taya is a solid 1v1 defender, and, a TEAM defender. Taya is also dependable when it comes to knowing and executing the OSU offense. Taya will get better on offense. It is nice that OSU doesn't have to play Taya 40 minutes (which was the case in the last NCAA Tournament). Having both Taya and Ellie Mack has been a plus.
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Post by 411500 on Feb 22, 2021 16:12:03 GMT -8
beaveragain - I hope you're right about Taya - and if you are it bodes well for her and for her playing time...Coach rewards his defensive performers, as you know.
In fairness, I have not seen enough of Taya this year to rate her defense...but I'm really hoping that your assessment of her defensive game is right on. That makes her more valuable to the team than I'm giving her credit for.... GO BEAVS!!
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Post by bvrbooster on Feb 22, 2021 16:35:47 GMT -8
I've stated right along that Aleah will come back next year. Her career goal is education/coaching. What better step toward that than finishing up her Masters while playing a 5th year? There's other reasons as well. She's going to move up the career stats list in areas like games played, points scored, and 3 point shots made. She will certainly want to finish her career playing in front of the rabid fans at Gill, not with the depressing venues of this season.
And there's another really big reason. She will know that she is needed on next year's team. She won't be taking minutes away from some 3rd year player whose time would have come if Aleah wasn't still around. The only other point guard is a girl who should be a freshman next year, and who has 4 years of eligibility remaining.
I think Talia will get a lot more minutes, maybe even the majority at the point. If so, Aleah can easily slide over to the 2 spot while both are in the game. Aleah still starts and still plays tons of minutes.
She'll be back.
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Post by beaverstever on Feb 22, 2021 16:48:17 GMT -8
Coach also loves Taya's defense. Out of the starting 5 Taya's defense analytics were number one against UCLA, and she was defending Onyenwere when they were in the game together. The Beavers inside defense is one of the best in the country and one of the reasons is Taya. So true about Taya. If you reflect back on what was obviously different about OSU this weekend: DEFENSE & Rebounding. Taya is a solid 1v1 defender, and, a TEAM defender. Taya is also dependable when it comes to knowing and executing the OSU offense. Taya will get better on offense. It is nice that OSU doesn't have to play Taya 40 minutes (which was the case in the last NCAA Tournament). Having both Taya and Ellie Mack has been a plus. I think the issue though is that she'll be competing with Brown for minutes next year (as will Mack), and neither compare with Brown's defense or rebounding. A healthy brown is just on another level on the defensive end (vs. really anybody on the roster, IMO)
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Post by beaverfever148 on Feb 22, 2021 16:50:01 GMT -8
I've stated right along that Aleah will come back next year. Her career goal is education/coaching. What better step toward that than finishing up her Masters while playing a 5th year? There's other reasons as well. She's going to move up the career stats list in areas like games played, points scored, and 3 point shots made. She will certainly want to finish her career playing in front of the rabid fans at Gill, not with the depressing venues of this season. And there's another really big reason. She will know that she is needed on next year's team. She won't be taking minutes away from some 3rd year player whose time would have come if Aleah wasn't still around. The only other point guard is a girl who should be a freshman next year, and who has 4 years of eligibility remaining. I think Talia will get a lot more minutes, maybe even the majority at the point. If so, Aleah can easily slide over to the 2 spot while both are in the game. Aleah still starts and still plays tons of minutes. She'll be back. I’ll be delighted when Aleah announces that she’s coming back- she has all the reason to. Until then, all of this talk is speculation. We don’t make decisions for her, only she does.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Feb 22, 2021 16:50:55 GMT -8
For all the reasons listed above, I also see Aleah coming back.
As stated above, Aleah says she wants to coach. There will be a great opportunity next year for her to show how good of a coach she can be than to bring along 4 extremely talented freshman guards.
If Aleah does not come back next year we will be a very good team, with her we can certainly be a great one.
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Post by bvrbooster on Feb 22, 2021 17:06:52 GMT -8
So true about Taya. If you reflect back on what was obviously different about OSU this weekend: DEFENSE & Rebounding. Taya is a solid 1v1 defender, and, a TEAM defender. Taya is also dependable when it comes to knowing and executing the OSU offense. Taya will get better on offense. It is nice that OSU doesn't have to play Taya 40 minutes (which was the case in the last NCAA Tournament). Having both Taya and Ellie Mack has been a plus. I think the issue though is that she'll be competing with Brown for minutes next year (as will Mack), and neither compare with Brown's defense or rebounding. A healthy brown is just on another level on the defensive end (vs. really anybody on the roster, IMO) This year, Scott is starting both Taya and Ellie. If Brown were available, one of them would be coming off the bench. Pretty simple. So, next year, Brown's going to start, and either Ellie or Taya (if both come back) is not. If Scott decides to go a bit smaller, perhaps neither will start. We'll see.
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Post by beaverstever on Feb 22, 2021 17:14:12 GMT -8
I think the issue though is that she'll be competing with Brown for minutes next year (as will Mack), and neither compare with Brown's defense or rebounding. A healthy brown is just on another level on the defensive end (vs. really anybody on the roster, IMO) This year, Scott is starting both Taya and Ellie. If Brown were available, one of them would be coming off the bench. Pretty simple. So, next year, Brown's going to start, and either Ellie or Taya (if both come back) is not. If Scott decides to go a bit smaller, perhaps neither will start. We'll see. In 3 of the last 4 games, Talia has gotten more minutes than Taya. With KB bringing more rim protection in general, I would expect to see more minutes trending towards our young guards. Agree that we will see, I just think we are already seeing it.
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Post by rmancarl on Feb 22, 2021 18:44:01 GMT -8
I know less than you do about this, but I don't think you are missing anything. I expect the Beavs will continue to start the same 5 for the remainder of the season. Despite the fact the Ellie may not come back, and Taya may not really deserve to start, I don't think you want to upset the apple cart at this stage, because you never know what may happen in the off season (transfers, injuries, or even the possible Kobie leap). There are a lot of complaints on this board about starters, but who starts doesn't really matter that much. I know Talia came in early against UCLA but I didn't catch exactly at what point. I do know she came in after 4 minutes of play against USC. The players who contribute are going to get their minutes despite who starts the game.
I like what Ellie has done these past 6 games. She's averaged over 9 points per game, and right at 4 rebounds and seems to be getting more familiar with Pac-12 play.
I hate to say it, but in the last 6 games, Ellie 56 points, Taya 29, Ellie 23 rebounds, Taya 22 Rebounds, Ellie 17 assist, Taya 11 assist. I might add Taya's 29 points include 16 against Washington. In the 5 games since Washington, Taya has only scored 13 points. She's definitely in a slump that I hope she finds a way out of. The other person who is adding little, to no, points is Jasmine. In the last 6 games, she's only taken 7 shots and scored 8 points. Only 2 points in the last 5 games. It's all good though as the Beavs are winning and players are playing their roles. Everybody can't score all the time.
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Post by 76spirit on Feb 22, 2021 19:58:58 GMT -8
Might be that Jasmine is the one to leave.
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Post by bvrbooster on Feb 22, 2021 20:10:53 GMT -8
Might be that Jasmine is the one to leave. If anybody's going to see the writing on the wall, it's Jasmine. She's 3 years in the program and not getting a whole lot of minutes. With Greta coming in, she's going to have trouble getting any.
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Post by grad1973 on Feb 23, 2021 16:18:27 GMT -8
Aleah Comming back is no excuse not to continue looking for a faster PG.in certain situations. taya I believe came back heavier and hasn't lost it. We were saying the same speculation about Slocum as we are about Aleah. Beware what you leave to speculation. We lost a great one with Clarke going to Lowa
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Post by beav74 on Feb 23, 2021 18:32:10 GMT -8
I seriously doubt Ellie will return.
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Post by bvrbooster on Feb 23, 2021 22:19:44 GMT -8
Who knows if Ellie will return. This can't be the experience and the atmosphere she was looking for, so maybe she comes back to experience that - even if her minutes are reduced.
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