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Post by beavs6 on Feb 7, 2021 7:42:57 GMT -8
Out of control dude with his legs flying in the air gets the call no matter what league. But, which player was out of control? If you have to ask, you know nothing about basketball.
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 7, 2021 7:58:49 GMT -8
But, which player was out of control? If you have to ask, you know nothing about basketball. So, jumping 2 ft back into a defender is a normal shooting motion? I think you’re the one that needs to learn the game.
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Post by alwaysorange on Feb 7, 2021 8:03:11 GMT -8
I've come to the conclusion that Gianni could be a pretty good point guard if you took the ball out of his hands.
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 7, 2021 8:36:36 GMT -8
I've come to the conclusion that Gianni could be a pretty good point guard if you took the ball out of his hands. He needs to slow down. He goes too quick and gets out of control.
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Post by seastape on Feb 7, 2021 8:49:29 GMT -8
I've come to the conclusion that Gianni could be a pretty good point guard if you took the ball out of his hands. He needs to slow down. He goes too quick and gets out of control. The "out of control" thing seems to be a trait shared by a lot of Tinkle's players. They drive with their head down to the basket only to realize that they have no one to pass to and they are now surrounded by three taller defenders looking for a block. Gianni Hunt does that. He also makes sloppy passes and tries to be too fancy with dribbling. A coach needs to take him aside and teach him the fundamentals and not to force things. Hunt has great athleticism; if someone teaches him basketball he will be a force.
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Post by beavs6 on Feb 7, 2021 9:35:18 GMT -8
If you have to ask, you know nothing about basketball. So, jumping 2 ft back into a defender is a normal shooting motion? I think you’re the one that needs to learn the game. LOL. Just poking you intentionally. The question at hand was who was out of control. Not if there was a foul...on who...if the motion of each player was normal...or any other thing. Just who was out of control more. Thanks for acknowledging Lucas was in control enough to alter his normal shooting motion(something that is practiced thousands of time as to make it muscle memory w/o thinking). When you can dish it Judge, got to be able to take it too.😉. No harm intended
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Post by shelby on Feb 7, 2021 9:35:29 GMT -8
Hunt shows flashes , but , at the end of the day - he is either 'no or negative', impact on the game . I agree that he needs to play at a slower speed and under more control ! Whenever he tries to force things , he creates turnovers that are totally unnecessary ! He does seem to have a sweet lefty stroke when he faces up from three ! I just , for now, would not use him in close games - too much of a liability .The bigs really played well yesterday- only SILVA needs to get a grip when it comes to rebounds - swatting the ball out to the perimeter is not too helpful when it's only the other team back there !
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 7, 2021 10:05:41 GMT -8
So, jumping 2 ft back into a defender is a normal shooting motion? I think you’re the one that needs to learn the game. LOL. Just poking you intentionally. The question at hand was who was out of control. Not if there was a foul...on who...if the motion of each player was normal...or any other thing. Just who was out of control more. Thanks for acknowledging Lucas was in control enough to alter his normal shooting motion(something that is practiced thousands of time as to make it muscle memory w/o thinking). When you can dish it Judge, got to be able to take it too.😉. No harm intended Good to know that flopping is “muscle memory”. Lucas has it down
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Post by beaverinohio on Feb 7, 2021 10:22:46 GMT -8
Hunt shows flashes , but , at the end of the day - he is either 'no or negative', impact on the game . I agree that he needs to play at a slower speed and under more control ! Whenever he tries to force things , he creates turnovers that are totally unnecessary ! He does seem to have a sweet lefty stroke when he faces up from three ! I just , for now, would not use him in close games - too much of a liability .The bigs really played well yesterday- only SILVA needs to get a grip when it comes to rebounds - swatting the ball out to the perimeter is not too helpful when it's only the other team back there ! Right now Hunt’s main positives are 3-pt shooting (39%) and I think he does a good job on D when Beavs press. Other than that he doesn’t bring a lot to the table, and he seemingly makes at least a couple of terrible passes a game. And his 32% shooting on 2-pointers is just nasty. I wish the PG they’ve got a commitment from was for 2021 rather than 2022, because this team could really struggle if Ethan doesn’t come back for his extra year. I don’t particularly like Ethan at the point, but could be scary if Hunt is getting 25-30 mpg. Maybe one of the recruits we have coming in next year can play the point. And possibly Hunt takes a step forward next year, but I’m not convinced.
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Post by beavheart on Feb 7, 2021 11:52:43 GMT -8
I feel like if Gianni could put on 10 pounds of muscle he would be a lot more effective in the lane and could grow into being a more consistent PG. As it is, like others have pointed out he is just trying to do too much, and doesn't seem to have the confidence to drive the lane unless he's going 100mph.
Spend some time in the weight room, and slow it down, or he might get passed over by younger players.
Speaking of younger players, I really like what little bit we've seen from Isiah Johnson. He's got great BB IQ for a young player. Good athlete. Would like to see him get a few more minutes a game.
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Post by beaverinohio on Feb 7, 2021 13:14:57 GMT -8
I feel like if Gianni could put on 10 pounds of muscle he would be a lot more effective in the lane and could grow into being a more consistent PG. As it is, like others have pointed out he is just trying to do too much, and doesn't seem to have the confidence to drive the lane unless he's going 100mph. Spend some time in the weight room, and slow it down, or he might get passed over by younger players. Speaking of younger players, I really like what little bit we've seen from Isiah Johnson. He's got great BB IQ for a young player. Good athlete. Would like to see him get a few more minutes a game. Your comment about 10 pounds of muscle got me thinking about how good the strength and conditioning coach is because can’t say I’ve seen much in the way of body transformations when it comes to b-ball. Not saying he isn’t good — maybe just not paying enough attention — but Illinois’s (other team I follow) S&C coach is held in great esteem on the Illini board, and don’t hear much about OSU’s. I too like Johnson. Seems a little raw at times, but like his motor. Also like Franklin’s BB IQ though IJ seems more physically gifted. Think they can both develop into nice pieces going forward.
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Post by beavheart on Feb 7, 2021 14:35:01 GMT -8
I feel like if Gianni could put on 10 pounds of muscle he would be a lot more effective in the lane and could grow into being a more consistent PG. As it is, like others have pointed out he is just trying to do too much, and doesn't seem to have the confidence to drive the lane unless he's going 100mph. Spend some time in the weight room, and slow it down, or he might get passed over by younger players. Speaking of younger players, I really like what little bit we've seen from Isiah Johnson. He's got great BB IQ for a young player. Good athlete. Would like to see him get a few more minutes a game. Your comment about 10 pounds of muscle got me thinking about how good the strength and conditioning coach is because can’t say I’ve seen much in the way of body transformations when it comes to b-ball. Not saying he isn’t good — maybe just not paying enough attention — but Illinois’s (other team I follow) S&C coach is held in great esteem on the Illini board, and don’t hear much about OSU’s. I too like Johnson. Seems a little raw at times, but like his motor. Also like Franklin’s BB IQ though IJ seems more physically gifted. Think they can both develop into nice pieces going forward. Totally agree. I was going to say I think it's between IJ and Franklin to take Reichle's minutes when he moves on. Sure is nice to have some good options going forward. I also really like the buy-in we're seeing from a lot of guys. Especially the ones who aren't seeing a ton of floor time, including both those guys. Say what you want about ZR, but he is putting it all out there. Total team guy. Starting to be a common theme throughout the roster. That's a great sign! I'm definitely eating some crow for questioning Tinkle's ability to coach after the Arizona debacle.
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Post by TheGlove on Feb 7, 2021 15:30:53 GMT -8
I feel like if Gianni could put on 10 pounds of muscle he would be a lot more effective in the lane and could grow into being a more consistent PG. As it is, like others have pointed out he is just trying to do too much, and doesn't seem to have the confidence to drive the lane unless he's going 100mph. Spend some time in the weight room, and slow it down, or he might get passed over by younger players. Speaking of younger players, I really like what little bit we've seen from Isiah Johnson. He's got great BB IQ for a young player. Good athlete. Would like to see him get a few more minutes a game. Your comment about 10 pounds of muscle got me thinking about how good the strength and conditioning coach is because can’t say I’ve seen much in the way of body transformations when it comes to b-ball. Not saying he isn’t good — maybe just not paying enough attention — but Illinois’s (other team I follow) S&C coach is held in great esteem on the Illini board, and don’t hear much about OSU’s. I too like Johnson. Seems a little raw at times, but like his motor. Also like Franklin’s BB IQ though IJ seems more physically gifted. Think they can both develop into nice pieces going forward. I would say Kylor, Drew, Tres, Zach, and Ethan all have/had significant physical transformations over their times in the program. This is just my observation, I haven’t looked up roster weights to verify.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 7, 2021 22:43:34 GMT -8
Your comment about 10 pounds of muscle got me thinking about how good the strength and conditioning coach is because can’t say I’ve seen much in the way of body transformations when it comes to b-ball. Not saying he isn’t good — maybe just not paying enough attention — but Illinois’s (other team I follow) S&C coach is held in great esteem on the Illini board, and don’t hear much about OSU’s. I too like Johnson. Seems a little raw at times, but like his motor. Also like Franklin’s BB IQ though IJ seems more physically gifted. Think they can both develop into nice pieces going forward. I would say Kylor, Drew, Tres, Zach, and Ethan all have/had significant physical transformations over their times in the program. This is just my observation, I haven’t looked up roster weights to verify. Drew Eubanks had to have put on about 35 pounds in Corvallis. Getting him to look like a basketball player took time. Zach probably put on 20 pounds. Ethan 15. I do not think you saw as much of a change out of Kylor and Tres. Kylor is understandable, because he was only in Corvallis two years. Tres got stronger but I think it was the least pronounced change of the five.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Feb 8, 2021 12:16:55 GMT -8
I would say Kylor, Drew, Tres, Zach, and Ethan all have/had significant physical transformations over their times in the program. This is just my observation, I haven’t looked up roster weights to verify. Drew Eubanks had to have put on about 35 pounds in Corvallis. Getting him to look like a basketball player took time. Zach probably put on 20 pounds. Ethan 15. I do not think you saw as much of a change out of Kylor and Tres. Kylor is understandable, because he was only in Corvallis two years. Tres got stronger but I think it was the least pronounced change of the five. Tres and Kylor's strength definitely improved however it didn't translate as much in the weight department. Kylor from year one to two of him being here I thought was night and day strength wise in the low post. He still got pushed around by the much bigger bodies in the league on occasion, but thought he held his own on O and D a lot more his 2nd year. Tres definitely put in the work and his physique changed IMO even though he only was listed as 5 pounds heavier his senior year vs. his freshman season.
Zach, Ethan, and Drew I think are very obvious guys who put in some work and added to their builds, Drew especially. Pre-season pictures of the team that Zach was in stuck out to me this year because I thought he looked much bigger and stronger in most of them. Drew was a raw talent who became a physical force his sophomore and junior seasons. It's why he's made it in the NBA thus far. And Ethan I actually was just thinking in that WSU game that he looked bigger/stronger than I remembered him from years past which is a bit of a funny coincidence.
I'm sure there are other examples of guys who have made physical leaps forward but the ones mentioned above are definitely the ones that stick out the most.
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