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Post by damnstraight on Feb 4, 2021 14:20:25 GMT -8
We didn't even draw 40K for the 2018 game that used to be named after a battle between northern and southern citizens of the united states.......so I think going bigger would've been a mistake. Make it smaller, bring everyone closer to the field, create a bit of an exclusive feel....I think it's the way things are going. The proposed baseball stadium in Portland is going to be under 30K I believe. I just have to remind everyone that the “Civil War” game was NOT and NEVER HAS BEEN named after the American Civil War of 1861-1865. It is a “Civil War” in the true sense of the phrase that it’s a battle between members of the same group. (In our case, citizens of the State of Oregon). Also, I believe the theoretical PDX baseball stadium was proposed to have about 32,000 seats. Well, Major League Baseball and College football, 82 home games vs. 6 or 7 home games are apples and oranges, two quite different animals. I think a good capacity would be around 42,000. With a competitive team, and an upward trajectory of the entire Pac-12 conference, I feel Beaver Nation should be able to fill a stadium this size on a regular basis. When Washington comes to town with their traveling contingent every other year, and the home Civil War years, I think OSU is going to wish they had at least 42,000 seats to sell. Lets not downsize too much and perpetuate the notion that OSU is just " small time". I sincerely hope when Covid is behind us, OSU fans will want to get out and attend , in person, college football, baseball, and basketball games and realize how valuable the in- stadium fan experience is, and 42,000 becomes 'the norm'.
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Post by mbabeav on Feb 4, 2021 14:32:04 GMT -8
Can you expand for those of us who couldn't tune in? Jon Wilner tweeted same thing... Helps with: Student recruitment. Student retention. Alumni engagement. Turning sports fans into donors to academic programs. Among other things. He also used bifurcated and dichotomous in the same sentence in explaining why stadium expansion is not incompatible with the university's central mission. Wow. Putting that St. Lawrence education to work. He was an intercollegiate athlete. He worked at a place (LSU) where sports are huge. So did Dr. Ray, but I think F. King has a better grasp of what athletics mean to our school/how they can help our school grow. another point he made was that there is about $70 million in deferred repairs and upgrades, including seismic upgrades - once you start the repairs, you must do the seismic, and well, I'd rather borrow the 70 mill to do a new facility replacement if I can get an 85 mill buy-in from others. Not many people going to donate 50 mill for seismic upgrades
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Post by mbabeav on Feb 4, 2021 14:54:15 GMT -8
Helps with: Student recruitment. Student retention. Alumni engagement. Turning sports fans into donors to academic programs. Among other things. He also used bifurcated and dichotomous in the same sentence in explaining why stadium expansion is not incompatible with the university's central mission. Wow. Putting that St. Lawrence education to work. He was an intercollegiate athlete. He worked at a place (LSU) where sports are huge. So did Dr. Ray, but I think F. King has a better grasp of what athletics mean to our school/how they can help and another point; Dr. Risser was from big sports land, and he understood how much sports means to the survival of a school - it felt like OSU was withering when he took over, and he left with the University expanding rapidly. Dr. Alexander seems to be in the same mold - playing hoops at the women's basketball practice when they were short handed due to COVID protocols - now that is a basketball Jones right there
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Feb 4, 2021 15:07:38 GMT -8
If it’s under 40k seat capacity then will be a problem when the ucks and one of Big Ten schools come in town. Will leave many disappointing fans not able to get in the stadium. Also when win games becoming consistent will be a problem for under 40k. Could you imagine traffic nightmare with say 60k fans in Corvallis?
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Post by RenoBeaver on Feb 4, 2021 15:12:55 GMT -8
My soon to be 55th year on this planet has been at least partially defined by being a Beaver fan as long as I can remember. That video kinda put a lump in my throat. OK it did. Happy for Beaver nation...Go Beavs! Put a lump in my throat too. We are relatively the same age...you a CHS grad I believe...myself a Philomath grad. Went to CHS games at Parker in my youth. Saw the bottom...now we are heading back up the hill positively. So excited and can't wait to see the finished product. Parker and Gil were our playground. You could just walk in to either on non game day, or easily sneak in. We'll, GameDay at Parker too in the late 70s and 80s. Great memories growing up and around OSU.
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Post by qbeaver on Feb 4, 2021 15:23:39 GMT -8
Put a lump in my throat too. We are relatively the same age...you a CHS grad I believe...myself a Philomath grad. Went to CHS games at Parker in my youth. Saw the bottom...now we are heading back up the hill positively. So excited and can't wait to see the finished product. Parker and Gil were our playground. You could just walk in to either on non game day, or easily sneak in. We'll, GameDay at Parker too in the late 70s and 80s. Great memories growing up and around OSU. Me too...Joe Frank,Jon Francis,Jamie Patton,Bob Johnson,Gary Hamilton,Sean Dimmick(both know)Moose,Pinions,etc. A stadium we can be proud of will be terrific...
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Post by ochobeavo on Feb 4, 2021 15:30:53 GMT -8
I just have to remind everyone that the “Civil War” game was NOT and NEVER HAS BEEN named after the American Civil War of 1861-1865. It is a “Civil War” in the true sense of the phrase that it’s a battle between members of the same group. (In our case, citizens of the State of Oregon). Also, I believe the theoretical PDX baseball stadium was proposed to have about 32,000 seats. Well, Major League Baseball and College football, 82 home games vs. 6 or 7 home games are apples and oranges, two quite different animals. I think a good capacity would be around 42,000. With a competitive team, and an upward trajectory of the entire Pac-12 conference, I feel Beaver Nation should be able to fill a stadium this size on a regular basis. When Washington comes to town with their traveling contingent every other year, and the home Civil War years, I think OSU is going to wish they had at least 42,000 seats to sell. Lets not downsize too much and perpetuate the notion that OSU is just " small time". I sincerely hope when Covid is behind us, OSU fans will want to get out and attend , in person, college football, baseball, and basketball games and realize how valuable the in- stadium fan experience is, and 42,000 becomes 'the norm'. Not even sure Washington travels like they used to. The last time we drew over 40K for a Washington game was 2013. 2015: 34K, 2017: 37K, 2019: 34K. If we get back to winning football, bowl games and demand exceeding supply then I think you draw on that momentum and add some incremental capacity. Great problem to have.
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Post by irimi on Feb 4, 2021 15:33:29 GMT -8
You're right. I should.
But I prefer when stadium names were not advertisements for some product, pro or college.
It is named after the family, not the product. Like Wrigley Field, Busch Stadium, Briggs Field, Connie Mack Stadium, Griffith Stadium and Ebbets Field, to name a few from the days of yore you pine for. Or even Parker Stadium, Gill Coliseum, Goss Stadium, Paul Lorenz Field, Bell Field or Coleman Field. Then simply remove the Reser ads from the field. Easy-peasy. Let it really be named for the people and not the brand. I never saw Parker in script on the field.
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Post by kersting13 on Feb 4, 2021 15:40:00 GMT -8
If it’s under 40k seat capacity then will be a problem when the ucks and one of Big Ten schools come in town. Will leave many disappointing fans not able to get in the stadium. Also when win games becoming consistent will be a problem for under 40k. Under 40K would be dumb IMO. Up until GAG showed up, we averaged well over 40K for the previous 10 consecutive years.
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Post by aicandme on Feb 4, 2021 16:18:23 GMT -8
Doesn't look like it will be 40k in capacity
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 4, 2021 16:23:01 GMT -8
It is named after the family, not the product. Like Wrigley Field, Busch Stadium, Briggs Field, Connie Mack Stadium, Griffith Stadium and Ebbets Field, to name a few from the days of yore you pine for. Or even Parker Stadium, Gill Coliseum, Goss Stadium, Paul Lorenz Field, Bell Field or Coleman Field. Then simply remove the Reser ads from the field. Easy-peasy. Let it really be named for the people and not the brand. I never saw Parker in script on the field. "Parker" was not on the field. It was on the press box, clearly shown in the new stadium video. The company is named Reser Fine Foods. There is no ad for Reser Fine Foods on the field, just as is there are no ads for the company on the outside of the stadium. In either case, why would we even consider removing the Reser family name from either location, no matter how it is presented graphically? The family has been an incredible asset to the university, both academically and athletically.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Feb 4, 2021 23:05:53 GMT -8
Reports leaking of a lead gift of $45-50 million from one donor....which one of you has been holding out on us? Will that be sufficient to rename it? Not very fond of Reser. Reminds me of cheap potato salad. Why settle for cheap potato salad when you can have Solid Potato Salad?
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Post by RenoBeaver on Feb 5, 2021 6:21:58 GMT -8
If it’s under 40k seat capacity then will be a problem when the ucks and one of Big Ten schools come in town. Will leave many disappointing fans not able to get in the stadium. Also when win games becoming consistent will be a problem for under 40k. Under 40K would be dumb IMO. Up until GAG showed up, we averaged well over 40K for the previous 10 consecutive years. I really don't think anyone will be able to tell. If a larger, more vertically oriented west side stands with better seating replaces a smaller structure with more packed in bleachers, visually it will look like more people, and I imagine will sound the same volume wise. There's really not much seating to lose in the corners. Boise State only holds 36000, that place can get pretty loud and it won't be as nice as a completed Reservation. Martin holds 32000. The biggest difference in fan capacity at Reser is in the end zones anyway. In the end it's not a bad thing if demand exceeds supply. Hopefully Ttat means the most hard-core loudest runs will be regularly attending.
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Post by alwaysorange on Feb 5, 2021 7:52:35 GMT -8
A few years ago ASU renovated their stadium and reduced capacity from 74,800 to 53,600 and that is smack dab in the middle of about 5 million people. People sitting at home watching entertainment on TV is the future not the past.
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Post by shelby on Feb 5, 2021 9:03:24 GMT -8
Sort of agree with respect to inducing new fans . Think we need to do a better job with getting students to the games ( expand through financial means and making the event far more fan centric ) Also , need to focus on an overall younger fan base ( it's obvious that the older crowd finds the whole experience to get more and more difficult to 'manage' as they age ! Also, stratify your fan base - based on finances. Those with the right financial situation will attend, donate and pull other fans with them. Give an incentive for delivering each new season ticket . Also , to be honest - the experience needs to change with the times. Some of the big screen stuff is pretty hokey and does not really engage the fans . The 'band' should also start going the Grambling route.i know nothing about what that will take , but ... consider and embrace change ! I still like the 5th Quarter program, where fans stick around for a live post game with Parker ( 50 yard line or Beaver end zone ), with video highlights and Beaver/ coach interviews ! Could even have a pre- game , ESPN GAMEDAY like experience ! Make it a full time experience and manage traffic in and out with these tools !
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