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Post by ricke71 on Jan 31, 2021 16:26:54 GMT -8
Pac 12 network needs to hire these two announcers They were really good. Hate to say it, but they were a level above Ron Callan. If Ron had a game-savvy sidekick like the Utah duo, that would be an improvement (I nominate Kat Tudor or Maddy). That the Utah announcers weren't shy about raving on TVO or Sasha or Aleah really added to the enjoyment of their game call. |
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 31, 2021 16:40:39 GMT -8
The lady beavs aren't in the top two, three, four if they don't do something about the one person dribble offense. The Oregon State University Beavers WOMEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM is surely a work in progress....an enjoyable one at that from my perspective. a PAC-12 road-sweep at the end of January in the Rocky Mountains, after playing only 3 games since December 19 is to be Celebrated! |
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Post by jrbeav59 on Jan 31, 2021 16:48:47 GMT -8
The lady beavs aren't in the top two, three, four if they don't do something about the one person dribble offense. Funny how that one person dribble offense leads the PAC-12 in assists per game. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 31, 2021 17:03:13 GMT -8
The lady beavs aren't in the top two, three, four if they don't do something about the one person dribble offense. So, when Syd was here, did you not notice that offense? SR likes to start the offense with a high pick and roll. It results in a lot of dribbling until your PG gets the screen set up right. |
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Post by alwaysorange on Jan 31, 2021 17:11:16 GMT -8
The lady beavs aren't in the top two, three, four if they don't do something about the one person dribble offense. So, when Syd was here, did you not notice that offense? SR likes to start the offense with a high pick and roll. It results in a lot of dribbling until your PG gets the screen set up right. Why is it that TVO can pass the ball the length of the court to an open person (notice I used the word pass) but rarely if ever happens with anybody else? If some body plays at least 90% of the time and controls the ball at least half the possession they had better have assists. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jan 31, 2021 17:16:19 GMT -8
I think our defense is the bigger problem than our offense. Today we held them to solid FG% and 3FG%, but put them at the line far too many times.
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 31, 2021 17:41:22 GMT -8
I think our defense is the bigger problem than our offense. Today we held them to solid FG% and 3FG%, but put them at the line far too many times. Too many times - agreed, But in reality, subtract 3 foul shot attempts from that due to the 'ghost' foul on Goforth on the 3-pt shot late in the game. Very odd call by Ref. I'm thinking that one of the prime lessons going forward from this game for OSU freshmen might have to do with foul/not fouling on shots from behind the arc. |
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Post by norm on Jan 31, 2021 17:52:16 GMT -8
One stat that often isn't discussed on this board is +/-. It really stuck out to me today that in the 17 minutes that Jelena was on the court, we were -14. In the 13 minutes that Taylor was on the court, we were +23. In the 25 minutes that Talia was on the floor the game was totally even. In the 33 mins Aleah was on the floor we were +19. And Taya had the best stat of +24.
It's not all about those individual players and all games certainly have their runs regardless of who is on the court, but I know that is a stat that the coaches pay attention to.
Jelena is coming around and I believe she is going to be good, but we really need Taylor to be on the court for 25 minutes per game in order to compete with the top 4 in the conference.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 31, 2021 18:08:17 GMT -8
So, when Syd was here, did you not notice that offense? SR likes to start the offense with a high pick and roll. It results in a lot of dribbling until your PG gets the screen set up right. Why is it that TVO can pass the ball the length of the court to an open person (notice I used the word pass) but rarely if ever happens with anybody else? If some body plays at least 90% of the time and controls the ball at least half the possession they had better have assists. Fast breaks are a different animal. Hopefully with TVO, they can have more of those. However, when SR wants them to slow it down and run the offense, it’s going to result in a lot of dribbling. Almost all of his sets are run off a high pick and roll to start the offense. It’s been that way since SR has been here. |
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 31, 2021 18:20:58 GMT -8
The lady beavs aren't in the top two, three, four if they don't do something about the one person dribble offense. Funny how that one person dribble offense leads the PAC-12 in assists per game. It's hard to not be an assist leader as the only one making passes (she's currently in 2nd after this game, btw). OSU is 126th in assists nationally, not a ranking of a good passing team. ( Strikethrough edit: Correct info for total assists, which isn't a good metric given game disparity- bad research on my part)BTW - Goodman has a little lower assist average compared to James Harden. It might even be smart basketball statistically, but nobody wants to watch it. I certainly don't blame Aleah, it's clearly what SR wants, I just am not a fan. |
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Post by rmancarl on Jan 31, 2021 18:51:30 GMT -8
Goforth, Goodman, von Oelhoffen, Mack/Corosdale, and Jones is easily our best lineup. Mack seems to be getting much more comfortable, and I think has outplayed Taya as of late, despite the missed layups in this one. If Mack continues to improve and gain comfort playing against Pac12 talent, it will be interesting to see what she decides to do next year. The Beavs will have a number of players who could play the 4, including Brown and Corosdale, but if Taya doesn't take a step up, and Brown is slow to recover, it would be nice to have Mack back. I think overall we put to much emphasis on "starters", when the real emphasis should be on minutes, and playing the right matchups (both offensively and defensively). |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jan 31, 2021 19:02:15 GMT -8
Funny how that one person dribble offense leads the PAC-12 in assists per game. It's hard to not be an assist leader as the only one making passes (she's currently in 2nd after this game, btw). OSU is 126th in assists nationally, not a ranking of a good passing team. BTW - Goodman has a little lower assist average compared to James Harden. It might even be smart basketball statistically, but nobody wants to watch it. I certainly don't blame Aleah, it's clearly what SR wants, I just am not a fan. You chose perhaps one of the most misleading stats to support the claim. OSU has played only ten games, so of course many teams who have played a lot of games will have more assists. OSU is 13th nationally and first in the PAC-12 in assists per game at 17.7 APG. How in the world is that not a ranking of a good passing team. Bizarre. |
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 31, 2021 19:07:13 GMT -8
One stat that often isn't discussed on this board is +/-. It really stuck out to me today that in the 17 minutes that Jelena was on the court, we were -14. In the 13 minutes that Taylor was on the court, we were +23. In the 25 minutes that Talia was on the floor the game was totally even. In the 33 mins Aleah was on the floor we were +19. And Taya had the best stat of +24. It's not all about those individual players and all games certainly have their runs regardless of who is on the court, but I know that is a stat that the coaches pay attention to. Jelena is coming around and I believe she is going to be good, but we really need Taylor to be on the court for 25 minutes per game in order to compete with the top 4 in the conference. For all of the expectations placed on Taya's post-injury-recovery year, some of which have not been realized, I still say that she is the essential 'glue' player for the Beavers WBB team - on both the offense and the defense. It'd hate to see her minutes reduced much. And all indications are (from Rueck decisions) they will remain at 23 minutes+. In the past she has averaged a bit more than that....but with Goforth, TVO, and other players coming on, the minutes are bound to be spread out a bit more. Rueck obviously trusts her game. |
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 31, 2021 21:43:48 GMT -8
It's hard to not be an assist leader as the only one making passes (she's currently in 2nd after this game, btw). OSU is 126th in assists nationally, not a ranking of a good passing team. BTW - Goodman has a little lower assist average compared to James Harden. It might even be smart basketball statistically, but nobody wants to watch it. I certainly don't blame Aleah, it's clearly what SR wants, I just am not a fan. You chose perhaps one of the most misleading stats to support the claim. OSU has played only ten games, so of course many teams who have played a lot of games will have more assists. OSU is 13th nationally and first in the PAC-12 in assists per game at 17.7 APG. How in the world is that not a ranking of a good passing team. Bizarre. Wow - my bad, I thought I was looking at the Assist/game, not total. Thanks for pointing that out. They indeed are a good passing team again this year. |
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