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Post by beavs6 on Jan 15, 2021 7:56:05 GMT -8
The good thing about COVID....
If a game occurs in Gill and no one attends or watches, did it really occur?
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Post by nabeav on Jan 15, 2021 8:23:15 GMT -8
Oregonian has a story behind the paywall where the headline suggests that Tinkle called out the players pretty harshly. If so, I’m not sure that’s a great look for Wayne. Anyone read the story that can provide a rundown of what he said?
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Post by shelby on Jan 15, 2021 8:43:30 GMT -8
So, I am not leaning one way or the other yet - but I am totally unimpressed with how little this program has accomplished .
My real wish is that, if WT DOES GO, under a variety of circumstances , I HOPE that we locate a young , up and comer - at the D1 level- to kick start a radical improvement in recruiting and game prep, as well as in game adjustments,
I know all of the naysayer issues - however , we HAD a successful program in the past and it can be done again .
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 15, 2021 9:54:41 GMT -8
I'm surprised Ethan didn't transfer at the end of last season. Did he stay to keep his dad employed? I think he was going to. He ran wildly to get the transfer form, moving full speed straight forward, and at the last second realized he didn't have a pen. He dropped the transfer form and it fell harmlessly to the floor, missing the waste paper basket. |
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Post by alwaysorange on Jan 15, 2021 9:56:32 GMT -8
So, I am not leaning one way or the other yet - but I am totally unimpressed with how little this program has accomplished . My real wish is that, if WT DOES GO, under a variety of circumstances , I HOPE that we locate a young , up and comer - at the D1 level- to kick start a radical improvement in recruiting and game prep, as well as in game adjustments, I know all of the naysayer issues - however , we HAD a successful program in the past and it can be done again . Just curious what would it take for you to lean against tinkle? |
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Post by messi on Jan 15, 2021 10:15:18 GMT -8
Oregonian has a story behind the paywall where the headline suggests that Tinkle called out the players pretty harshly. If so, I’m not sure that’s a great look for Wayne. Anyone read the story that can provide a rundown of what he said? I believe that same paywall article had its headline link on the front page read the Beavers scoring 84 points in the loss this morning. I guess olive felt sorry for us. |
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Post by sabzi on Jan 15, 2021 10:44:31 GMT -8
Article is mostly coach speak about the team not defending the paint and playing with maximum effort. Ethan says he's contemplating being a leader. Tinkle was much more scathing after the Portland loss when he told the team to grow a pair and the team visibly checked out after that.
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Post by messi on Jan 15, 2021 10:57:04 GMT -8
The good thing about COVID.... If a game occurs in Gill and no one attends or watches, did it really occur? Sadly, we probably don't need COVID for there to be a sparse crowd at Gill for a men's basketball game. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 15, 2021 13:29:37 GMT -8
Oregonian has a story behind the paywall where the headline suggests that Tinkle called out the players pretty harshly. If so, I’m not sure that’s a great look for Wayne. Anyone read the story that can provide a rundown of what he said? This is not intramurals. This is Division I basketball. Dan Hawkins was right. If they can’t handle being called out, they shouldn’t be playing. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 15, 2021 13:33:43 GMT -8
Article is mostly coach speak about the team not defending the paint and playing with maximum effort. Ethan says he's contemplating being a leader. Tinkle was much more scathing after the Portland loss when he told the team to grow a pair and the team visibly checked out after that. ”contemplating being a leader”. Funny. |
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Post by beavheart on Jan 15, 2021 14:40:44 GMT -8
I watched most of the game last night. It was torture. Covid aside, this is a new low for this program.
I can't understand how this team can be THAT bad. There is actually some decent pieces to work with on this roster, but we looked like deer in the headlights from the tip last night. It's not just missing a couple practices, or distractions in Washington DC that has an entire team come out completely lost and overmatched like this. We have zero identity as a team. Guys are giving effort, but we are completely out of synch as a unit. We play 20 seconds of furious defense, and then give up a easy shot at the rim. Over and over. Zero offense = chucking up a bunch of 3s as our bigs are out of position.
Big Tink seems like a nice guy. I really hoped that he was the right guy for the job. He checked a bunch of boxes when he was hired. However it happened, it appears we AGAIN find ourselves with a coach that seems to be losing his team. I would hope that if we are just going to move on to the next best thing that we take a good, hard look at why we as a program keep finding ourselves in this position.
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 16, 2021 9:56:48 GMT -8
I watched most of the game last night. It was torture. Covid aside, this is a new low for this program. I can't understand how this team can be THAT bad. There is actually some decent pieces to work with on this roster, but we looked like deer in the headlights from the tip last night. It's not just missing a couple practices, or distractions in Washington DC that has an entire team come out completely lost and overmatched like this. We have zero identity as a team. Guys are giving effort, but we are completely out of synch as a unit. We play 20 seconds of furious defense, and then give up a easy shot at the rim. Over and over. Zero offense = chucking up a bunch of 3s as our bigs are out of position. Big Tink seems like a nice guy. I really hoped that he was the right guy for the job. He checked a bunch of boxes when he was hired. However it happened, it appears we AGAIN find ourselves with a coach that seems to be losing his team. I would hope that if we are just going to move on to the next best thing that we take a good, hard look at why we as a program keep finding ourselves in this position. Coaches lose the team when the team no longer believes the coach knows how to lead them to wins. At that point, players revert to doing what they think will give them the best chance to win individually, and the play looks like a pick-up game with nobody in sync. We have an identity, and that’s it. |
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Post by beavheart on Jan 16, 2021 11:10:35 GMT -8
I watched most of the game last night. It was torture. Covid aside, this is a new low for this program. I can't understand how this team can be THAT bad. There is actually some decent pieces to work with on this roster, but we looked like deer in the headlights from the tip last night. It's not just missing a couple practices, or distractions in Washington DC that has an entire team come out completely lost and overmatched like this. We have zero identity as a team. Guys are giving effort, but we are completely out of synch as a unit. We play 20 seconds of furious defense, and then give up a easy shot at the rim. Over and over. Zero offense = chucking up a bunch of 3s as our bigs are out of position. Big Tink seems like a nice guy. I really hoped that he was the right guy for the job. He checked a bunch of boxes when he was hired. However it happened, it appears we AGAIN find ourselves with a coach that seems to be losing his team. I would hope that if we are just going to move on to the next best thing that we take a good, hard look at why we as a program keep finding ourselves in this position. Coaches lose the team when the team no longer believes the coach knows how to lead them to wins. At that point, players revert to doing what they think will give them the best chance to win individually, and the play looks like a pick-up game with nobody in sync. We have an identity, and that’s it. I guess my Beav heart didn't want to come out and say it. I really hope you're wrong. Assuming you are right. And everything indicates you are. The question them becomes, what do we do about it? What we are doing clearly isn't working. We have gone through one coach after another over several decades with all the right intentions, and just CAN NOT get off the mat. What is with that? OSU has too much going for it to be this inept. Is it time to green light straight up cheating for MBB program? It sure seems to be working for Arizona! |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 16, 2021 15:16:03 GMT -8
I can guarantee you if we make a change, everyone and his brother will immediately point out that Barnes made a bad hire at Pitt in Kevin Stallings, and will predict another disaster is in the offing. Guaranteed.
Totally disregarding, of course, that every hire he's made at OSU has been very, very solid at the minimum.
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Post by beavs6 on Jan 16, 2021 15:38:54 GMT -8
I can guarantee you if we make a change, everyone and his brother will immediately point out that Barnes made a bad hire at Pitt in Kevin Stallings, and will predict another disaster is in the offing. Guaranteed. Totally disregarding, of course, that every hire he's made at OSU has been very, very solid at the minimum. Umm...ok. Starting with Henry. Thanks for that. |
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