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Post by grad1973 on Jan 4, 2021 13:53:20 GMT -8
Only person that doesn't seem to know Thompson isn't a point guard is Tinkle.geez
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jan 4, 2021 14:07:14 GMT -8
Why is Andela not playing? Frustrated with this. Caloo is plain awful defensively. I noticed Andela is not on the bench. Wonder if he's hurt. Caloo is athletic, but he's got a ways to go when it comes to being a basketball player, especially on the defensive end. He's out of position most of the time and gets himself in foul trouble because of it. This game seemed winnable but we were really only kept in the game by Lucas and Hunt getting hot from 3. There wasn't much there on the offensive end other than that. The officiating was frustrating to say the least because it seemed like we weren't receiving the same calls on the offensive end they were, but that can also happen when you throw up more than 30 3 point attempts in a game. Stanford is probably a 5th-8th place team this year, so what that says about us remains to be seen. This team is definitely improving from their non-conference play, but it's going to be a work in progress all season unfortunately. Hopefully we can get a split next week on the road and go from there. Utah hasn't looked all too great yet so a win there would be nice. |
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Post by pabeaver on Jan 4, 2021 14:13:57 GMT -8
Caloo is plain awful defensively. I noticed Andela is not on the bench. Wonder if he's hurt. Caloo is athletic, but he's got a ways to go when it comes to being a basketball player, especially on the defensive end. He's out of position most of the time and gets himself in foul trouble because of it. This game seemed winnable but we were really only kept in the game by Lucas and Hunt getting hot from 3. There wasn't much there on the offensive end other than that. The officiating was frustrating to say the least because it seemed like we weren't receiving the same calls on the offensive end they were, but that can also happen when you throw up more than 30 3 point attempts in a game. Stanford is probably a 5th-8th place team this year, so what that says about us remains to be seen. This team is definitely improving from their non-conference play, but it's going to be a work in progress all season unfortunately. Hopefully we can get a split next week on the road and go from there. Utah hasn't looked all too great yet so a win there would be nice. I think you said it well. The two telling stats to me were the 30 attempted free throws for them with only 17 for us, and going 11-34 from three-point range. We really shoot too many 3’s and don’t have a player that can create their own shot driving the lane. |
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Post by TheGlove on Jan 4, 2021 14:26:53 GMT -8
Did we win?
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Post by geosci91 on Jan 4, 2021 14:31:03 GMT -8
Tree 81 Beavs 71
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Post by ochobeavo on Jan 4, 2021 14:32:03 GMT -8
Lost 81-71. Were in the game most of the way, they pulled away late when 3's stopped falling for us and we had zero answer for da Silva who just set up on the low block and big-brothered us for about 40 minutes. 31 pts, 10 rebounds. 11-16 shooting. Lucas with 22, Gianni with 17. Calloo/Reichle/Ethan combine to go 6-29 from the field 2-17 from 3 (that's not good #analysis) |
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Post by BeaverTailChaser on Jan 4, 2021 14:32:30 GMT -8
sTINK-ball rears its ugly head again. Year 7.... still NO recognizable/effective offensive sets! I guess we're ok with living and dying by chucking up 3's...if that's the case, we need better shooters. It's ok to sit Ethan sometimes...38 mins is too much...and he is NOT a point guard. TW's post game pressers are painful to listen to...ugh.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 4, 2021 14:42:22 GMT -8
sTINK-ball rears its ugly head again. Year 7.... still NO recognizable/effective offensive sets! I guess we're ok with living and dying by chucking up 3's...if that's the case, we need better shooters. It's ok to sit Ethan sometimes...38 mins is too much...and he is NOT a point guard. TW's post game pressers are painful to listen to...ugh. There are plenty of recognizable offensive sets. The problem, is that they run one rotation through and then give up and improvise. That is on Tinkle to get them to stick with the sets for longer. He complained about the freelancing last week, but it's up to him to impose the discipline in them to run the offense. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 4, 2021 15:27:27 GMT -8
Caloo is plain awful defensively. I noticed Andela is not on the bench. Wonder if he's hurt. Caloo is athletic, but he's got a ways to go when it comes to being a basketball player, especially on the defensive end. He's out of position most of the time and gets himself in foul trouble because of it. This game seemed winnable but we were really only kept in the game by Lucas and Hunt getting hot from 3. There wasn't much there on the offensive end other than that. The officiating was frustrating to say the least because it seemed like we weren't receiving the same calls on the offensive end they were, but that can also happen when you throw up more than 30 3 point attempts in a game. Stanford is probably a 5th-8th place team this year, so what that says about us remains to be seen. This team is definitely improving from their non-conference play, but it's going to be a work in progress all season unfortunately. Hopefully we can get a split next week on the road and go from there. Utah hasn't looked all too great yet so a win there would be nice. Pretty much everyone has pegged Stanford as a top four Pac-12 team (most have them at either three or four). |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 4, 2021 15:38:47 GMT -8
sTINK-ball rears its ugly head again. Year 7.... still NO recognizable/effective offensive sets! I guess we're ok with living and dying by chucking up 3's...if that's the case, we need better shooters. It's ok to sit Ethan sometimes...38 mins is too much...and he is NOT a point guard. TW's post game pressers are painful to listen to...ugh. The offense is still good. From my eyes, the team is faster this year than last year. Oregon State looks much better in transition. And better at perimeter shooting. The offense is good. In fact, to my eyes, Oregon State was a better offensive team than Stanford. Like in football, to the extent that Oregon State has problems, it is mostly defense. |
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Post by nabeav on Jan 4, 2021 16:01:40 GMT -8
Foot injury late in the first half for Andela. Tough, because we literally had nobody to bother Da Silva in the second half. Winnable game, but Tucker and Calloo were ineffective at best defensively, and without Silva or Andela in the second half, we just had no interior defense whatsoever.
Gianni playing himself into more time on the floor again though. He just makes stuff happen.
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Post by alwaysorange on Jan 4, 2021 16:29:21 GMT -8
sTINK-ball rears its ugly head again. Year 7.... still NO recognizable/effective offensive sets! I guess we're ok with living and dying by chucking up 3's...if that's the case, we need better shooters. It's ok to sit Ethan sometimes...38 mins is too much...and he is NOT a point guard. TW's post game pressers are painful to listen to...ugh. There are plenty of recognizable offensive sets. The problem, is that they run one rotation through and then give up and improvise. That is on Tinkle to get them to stick with the sets for longer. He complained about the freelancing last week, but it's up to him to impose the discipline in them to run the offense. Its year 7. Its been the same for the previous 6. Change isn't going to happen. |
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jan 4, 2021 18:15:46 GMT -8
There are plenty of recognizable offensive sets. The problem, is that they run one rotation through and then give up and improvise. That is on Tinkle to get them to stick with the sets for longer. He complained about the freelancing last week, but it's up to him to impose the discipline in them to run the offense. Its year 7. Its been the same for the previous 6. Change isn't going to happen. One positive change I saw at least was that we scored on an inbounds play today. It wasn't too long ago that just inbounding the ball under our basket was an accomplishment, let alone scoring off of it. Tinkle does a good job drawing up plays out of timeouts, which tells me there is basketball knowledge there, getting players to buy in has always been the issue. |
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jan 4, 2021 18:18:14 GMT -8
Caloo is athletic, but he's got a ways to go when it comes to being a basketball player, especially on the defensive end. He's out of position most of the time and gets himself in foul trouble because of it. This game seemed winnable but we were really only kept in the game by Lucas and Hunt getting hot from 3. There wasn't much there on the offensive end other than that. The officiating was frustrating to say the least because it seemed like we weren't receiving the same calls on the offensive end they were, but that can also happen when you throw up more than 30 3 point attempts in a game. Stanford is probably a 5th-8th place team this year, so what that says about us remains to be seen. This team is definitely improving from their non-conference play, but it's going to be a work in progress all season unfortunately. Hopefully we can get a split next week on the road and go from there. Utah hasn't looked all too great yet so a win there would be nice. Pretty much everyone has pegged Stanford as a top four Pac-12 team (most have them at either three or four). I said that primarily based off my observations today, and their current NET ranking, which is 6th in the conference. They may still finish top 3 or 4 but I think uo, UA, and Colorado are all better, and UCLA/USC/ASU could easily finish above them IMO. |
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Post by grad1973 on Jan 4, 2021 19:56:02 GMT -8
Half the time its the Thompson drive to some Where set. But not sure where? It's funny watching him drive to the basket figures out its to no where and then trys to pass and half the time its thrown away. The rest of the team has gotten used to the coach using Thompson's personal playing on this team as a preparatory league in the hopes he will make pros. One mans opinion.
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