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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 18:38:01 GMT -8
Comparing each other to Nazis... It's all so tiresome.
This passive aggressive attempt at a "discussion" was DOA. Thanks for another great one.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 30, 2020 18:45:33 GMT -8
That darn cancel culture. Bolshevik Cancel Culture:   Nazi Cancel Culture in Austria:  Nazi Cancel Culture of the Grunwald Monument in Krakow:  Nazi Cancel Culture of the Frederic Chopin Monument in Warsaw:  Nazi Cancel Culture in France:  Al Qaeda Cancel Culture:  ISIS Cancel Culture:     History can be messy and nuanced and should not always be celebrated. However, when they have the power to do so, history shows that evil or weak-minded people will seek to bend and destroy a nation's history to fit their own narrative, rather than dealing with thoughts or ideas that do not perfectly line up with their own. “history shows that evil or weak-minded people will seek to bend and destroy a nation's history to fit their own narrative, rather than dealing with thoughts or ideas that do not perfectly line up with their own.” I couldn’t have said it better myself. The folks back in 1909 who commissioned, cast and erected a statue of a defeated rebellion leader (for a despicable and dishonorable “cause”) sought to do exactly what you describe. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 30, 2020 18:49:14 GMT -8
Dude, put on a clean and dry pair of Depends. The statue of Lee was removed after a free and public debate and vote in the State of Virgina's legislature. I've heard it's being moved back to Richmond to be placed in a local history museum where folks who want to lionize their tin gods can do so freely but perhaps in a more appropriate historical context. The statue is not being destroyed. In my opinion it should have been melted down and cast into doorstops (no sense in wasting good bronze). But I didn't have a vote on the matter. That's not true. The decision was made by: Dr. Edward L. Ayers, former President of the University of Richmond, and hardcore Democrat ideolog who helped to write the "New American History." He is not a professor of history, only "New American History." He is one of the foremost men in America actively working to erase and rewrite American History. Dr. Colita Nichols Faifax, a Doctor of African American Studies at Nofolk State University. She is the wife of Tony Fairfax, who is almost always used as a consultant or expert, when Democrats are in charge of gerrymandering districts or to help sue Republican districting plans. Julie Langan, an Art History major, who received a masters in Architectural History. She used her degree to ultimately rise to the Director of Virginia Historic Preservation, but her focus is and has always been architectural history preservation. Senator L. Louise Lucas, owns several businesses and has been accused of fraud and double-dealing in regards to property and hotels that she owns. She participated in a mostly peaceful Black Lives Matter riot protest in Portsmouth, Virginia, where four statues dedicated to 379 soldiers who had died in the Civil War were beheaded. She herself was charged with multiple felonies related to her actions, and the Mayor of Portsmouth has indicated that she has been dishonest about her subsequent defense of her actions. Ms. Lucas chaired the eight-member committee. Fred Motley, a professional actor, director and "storyteller." Chief G. Anne Richardson, the Chief of the Rappahannock Tribe, as was her father before her, his father before him and his father before him. Margaret Vanderhye, a former Clinton appointee and former member of the Northern Virginia Transportation Authority appointed by Govenors Mark Warner and Tim Kaine (now, the two Democratic Senators from Virginia). She was a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates before being defeated by Barbara Comstock. Vanderhye has largely been absent from the public eye for more than a decade, so it is great to see that she is still getting work. Delegate Jeion A. Ward, the President of the Hampton Federation of Teachers, AFT Local 4260 for the past 22 (or so) years. She is also a member of Virginia's AFL-CIO Executive Council. She has been a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates for almost 17 years. At some point in her murky past, she was a middle school teacher. The only pseudo-historian is Ayers. The rest have no business making the decision. There was no free and fair public debate and vote at the legislature. Virginia is completely controlled (for now) by the Democratic Party. All eight members of the Committee were hardcore Democrats, and mostly Democratic technocrats. The statue is a work of art by Edward Virginius Valentine more than a century ago in 1909 in bronze. That is awesome. Doorstops? Seriously? At least they are replacing this statue, though. Hopefully, the statue of Barbara Rose Johns turns out well. Yep. Seriously. But don’t you fret now. Old Massa Lee’s statue is going to get a nice new home www.google.com/amp/s/richmond.com/news/state-and-regional/watch-now-virginia-museum-says-lee-statue-formerly-at-u-s-capitol-will-tell-story/article_89a3ed86-e46b-5781-82ca-4b6e1de16018.amp.html |
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Post by seastape on Dec 30, 2020 19:11:17 GMT -8
Dude, put on a clean and dry pair of Depends. The statue of Lee was removed after a free and public debate and vote in the State of Virgina's legislature. I've heard it's being moved back to Richmond to be placed in a local history museum where folks who want to lionize their tin gods can do so freely but perhaps in a more appropriate historical context. The statue is not being destroyed. In my opinion it should have been melted down and cast into doorstops (no sense in wasting good bronze). But I didn't have a vote on the matter. That's not true. The decision was made by:  Dr. Edward L. Ayers, former President of the University of Richmond, and hardcore Democrat ideolog who helped to write the "New American History." He is not a professor of history, only "New American History." He is one of the foremost men in America actively working to erase and rewrite American History.  Dr. Colita Nichols Faifax, a Doctor of African American Studies at Nofolk State University. She is the wife of Tony Fairfax, who is almost always used as a consultant or expert, when Democrats are in charge of gerrymandering districts or to help sue Republican districting plans.  Julie Langan, an Art History major, who received a masters in Architectural History. She used her degree to ultimately rise to the Director of Virginia Historic Preservation, but her focus is and has always been architectural history preservation.  Senator L. Louise Lucas, owns several businesses and has been accused of fraud and double-dealing in regards to property and hotels that she owns. She participated in a mostly peaceful Black Lives Matter riot protest in Portsmouth, Virginia, where four statues dedicated to 379 soldiers who had died in the Civil War were beheaded. She herself was charged with multiple felonies related to her actions, and the Mayor of Portsmouth has indicated that she has been dishonest about her subsequent defense of her actions. Ms. Lucas chaired the eight-member committee.  Fred Motley, a professional actor, director and "storyteller."  Chief G. Anne Richardson, the Chief of the Rappahannock Tribe, as was her father before her, his father before him and his father before him. ![]() Margaret Vanderhye, a former Clinton appointee and former member of the Northern Virginia Transportation Authority appointed by Govenors Mark Warner and Tim Kaine (now, the two Democratic Senators from Virginia). She was a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates before being defeated by Barbara Comstock. Vanderhye has largely been absent from the public eye for more than a decade, so it is great to see that she is still getting work.  Delegate Jeion A. Ward, the President of the Hampton Federation of Teachers, AFT Local 4260 for the past 22 (or so) years. She is also a member of Virginia's AFL-CIO Executive Council. She has been a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates for almost 17 years. At some point in her murky past, she was a middle school teacher. The only pseudo-historian is Ayers. The rest have no business making the decision. There was no free and fair public debate and vote at the legislature. Virginia is completely controlled (for now) by the Democratic Party. All eight members of the Committee were hardcore Democrats, and mostly Democratic technocrats. The statue is a work of art by Edward Virginius Valentine more than a century ago in 1909 in bronze. That is awesome. Doorstops? Seriously? At least they are replacing this statue, though. Hopefully, the statue of Barbara Rose Johns turns out well. Your post loses all credibility calling Ayers a "pseudo-historian." Ayers has a BA from University of Tennessee in American Studies and a PhD for the same from Yale. He started as an assistant professor at University of Virginia and rose through the ranks to become a full time professor, an award-winning professor, then Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences and then moving on to become the President of the University of Richmond. He has won a Fulbright Fellowship, The National Humanities Medal and several awards for his books, "In the Presence of Mine Enemies: The Civil War In America, 1859-1864" and "The Promise of the New South: Life After Reconstruction." He is recognized as an expert on the Civil War. He has won national awards for his excellent teaching, as well. What is the point of reading your post further? You are way off the mark on Ayers and I suspect that it's the same story on the other delegates of the commission. People who have reached an opinion that is different than yours are not automatically unqualified idiots. |
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Post by TheGlove on Dec 30, 2020 19:27:02 GMT -8
Dude, put on a clean and dry pair of Depends. The statue of Lee was removed after a free and public debate and vote in the State of Virgina's legislature. I've heard it's being moved back to Richmond to be placed in a local history museum where folks who want to lionize their tin gods can do so freely but perhaps in a more appropriate historical context. The statue is not being destroyed. In my opinion it should have been melted down and cast into doorstops (no sense in wasting good bronze). But I didn't have a vote on the matter. That's not true. The decision was made by: Dr. Edward L. Ayers, former President of the University of Richmond, and hardcore Democrat ideolog who helped to write the "New American History." He is not a professor of history, only "New American History." He is one of the foremost men in America actively working to erase and rewrite American History. Dr. Colita Nichols Faifax, a Doctor of African American Studies at Nofolk State University. She is the wife of Tony Fairfax, who is almost always used as a consultant or expert, when Democrats are in charge of gerrymandering districts or to help sue Republican districting plans. Julie Langan, an Art History major, who received a masters in Architectural History. She used her degree to ultimately rise to the Director of Virginia Historic Preservation, but her focus is and has always been architectural history preservation. Senator L. Louise Lucas, owns several businesses and has been accused of fraud and double-dealing in regards to property and hotels that she owns. She participated in a mostly peaceful Black Lives Matter riot protest in Portsmouth, Virginia, where four statues dedicated to 379 soldiers who had died in the Civil War were beheaded. She herself was charged with multiple felonies related to her actions, and the Mayor of Portsmouth has indicated that she has been dishonest about her subsequent defense of her actions. Ms. Lucas chaired the eight-member committee. Fred Motley, a professional actor, director and "storyteller." Chief G. Anne Richardson, the Chief of the Rappahannock Tribe, as was her father before her, his father before him and his father before him. ![]() Margaret Vanderhye, a former Clinton appointee and former member of the Northern Virginia Transportation Authority appointed by Govenors Mark Warner and Tim Kaine (now, the two Democratic Senators from Virginia). She was a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates before being defeated by Barbara Comstock. Vanderhye has largely been absent from the public eye for more than a decade, so it is great to see that she is still getting work. Delegate Jeion A. Ward, the President of the Hampton Federation of Teachers, AFT Local 4260 for the past 22 (or so) years. She is also a member of Virginia's AFL-CIO Executive Council. She has been a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates for almost 17 years. At some point in her murky past, she was a middle school teacher. The only pseudo-historian is Ayers. The rest have no business making the decision. There was no free and fair public debate and vote at the legislature. Virginia is completely controlled (for now) by the Democratic Party. All eight members of the Committee were hardcore Democrats, and mostly Democratic technocrats. The statue is a work of art by Edward Virginius Valentine more than a century ago in 1909 in bronze. That is awesome. Doorstops? Seriously? At least they are replacing this statue, though. Hopefully, the statue of Barbara Rose Johns turns out well. This post is your most pathetic yet. If you keep lowering the bar, you’ll need a shovel. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 30, 2020 19:34:02 GMT -8
Dude, put on a clean and dry pair of Depends. The statue of Lee was removed after a free and public debate and vote in the State of Virgina's legislature. I've heard it's being moved back to Richmond to be placed in a local history museum where folks who want to lionize their tin gods can do so freely but perhaps in a more appropriate historical context. The statue is not being destroyed. In my opinion it should have been melted down and cast into doorstops (no sense in wasting good bronze). But I didn't have a vote on the matter. That's not true. The decision was made by: Dr. Edward L. Ayers, former President of the University of Richmond, and hardcore Democrat ideolog who helped to write the "New American History." He is not a professor of history, only "New American History." He is one of the foremost men in America actively working to erase and rewrite American History. Dr. Colita Nichols Faifax, a Doctor of African American Studies at Nofolk State University. She is the wife of Tony Fairfax, who is almost always used as a consultant or expert, when Democrats are in charge of gerrymandering districts or to help sue Republican districting plans. Julie Langan, an Art History major, who received a masters in Architectural History. She used her degree to ultimately rise to the Director of Virginia Historic Preservation, but her focus is and has always been architectural history preservation. Senator L. Louise Lucas, owns several businesses and has been accused of fraud and double-dealing in regards to property and hotels that she owns. She participated in a mostly peaceful Black Lives Matter riot protest in Portsmouth, Virginia, where four statues dedicated to 379 soldiers who had died in the Civil War were beheaded. She herself was charged with multiple felonies related to her actions, and the Mayor of Portsmouth has indicated that she has been dishonest about her subsequent defense of her actions. Ms. Lucas chaired the eight-member committee. Fred Motley, a professional actor, director and "storyteller." Chief G. Anne Richardson, the Chief of the Rappahannock Tribe, as was her father before her, his father before him and his father before him. ![]() Margaret Vanderhye, a former Clinton appointee and former member of the Northern Virginia Transportation Authority appointed by Govenors Mark Warner and Tim Kaine (now, the two Democratic Senators from Virginia). She was a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates before being defeated by Barbara Comstock. Vanderhye has largely been absent from the public eye for more than a decade, so it is great to see that she is still getting work. Delegate Jeion A. Ward, the President of the Hampton Federation of Teachers, AFT Local 4260 for the past 22 (or so) years. She is also a member of Virginia's AFL-CIO Executive Council. She has been a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates for almost 17 years. At some point in her murky past, she was a middle school teacher. The only pseudo-historian is Ayers. The rest have no business making the decision. There was no free and fair public debate and vote at the legislature. Virginia is completely controlled (for now) by the Democratic Party. All eight members of the Committee were hardcore Democrats, and mostly Democratic technocrats. The statue is a work of art by Edward Virginius Valentine more than a century ago in 1909 in bronze. That is awesome. Doorstops? Seriously? At least they are replacing this statue, though. Hopefully, the statue of Barbara Rose Johns turns out well. No. Very true. lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+HB1406 lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+vot+HV2073+HB1406The name of the bill that passed 52-30 for the appointment of the committee was: "HB 1406 Historical Statues in the United States Capitol, Commission for; removal of Robert E. Lee statue." Passing the legislation was a defacto decision to approve the statue's removal and nobody could have been the least bit surprised by the governor's appointees, the committee's recommendations and the Governor's acceptance of that recommendation. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 31, 2020 14:06:04 GMT -8
That's not true. The decision was made by: Dr. Edward L. Ayers, former President of the University of Richmond, and hardcore Democrat ideolog who helped to write the "New American History." He is not a professor of history, only "New American History." He is one of the foremost men in America actively working to erase and rewrite American History. Dr. Colita Nichols Faifax, a Doctor of African American Studies at Nofolk State University. She is the wife of Tony Fairfax, who is almost always used as a consultant or expert, when Democrats are in charge of gerrymandering districts or to help sue Republican districting plans. Julie Langan, an Art History major, who received a masters in Architectural History. She used her degree to ultimately rise to the Director of Virginia Historic Preservation, but her focus is and has always been architectural history preservation. Senator L. Louise Lucas, owns several businesses and has been accused of fraud and double-dealing in regards to property and hotels that she owns. She participated in a mostly peaceful Black Lives Matter riot protest in Portsmouth, Virginia, where four statues dedicated to 379 soldiers who had died in the Civil War were beheaded. She herself was charged with multiple felonies related to her actions, and the Mayor of Portsmouth has indicated that she has been dishonest about her subsequent defense of her actions. Ms. Lucas chaired the eight-member committee. Fred Motley, a professional actor, director and "storyteller." Chief G. Anne Richardson, the Chief of the Rappahannock Tribe, as was her father before her, his father before him and his father before him. ![]() Margaret Vanderhye, a former Clinton appointee and former member of the Northern Virginia Transportation Authority appointed by Govenors Mark Warner and Tim Kaine (now, the two Democratic Senators from Virginia). She was a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates before being defeated by Barbara Comstock. Vanderhye has largely been absent from the public eye for more than a decade, so it is great to see that she is still getting work. Delegate Jeion A. Ward, the President of the Hampton Federation of Teachers, AFT Local 4260 for the past 22 (or so) years. She is also a member of Virginia's AFL-CIO Executive Council. She has been a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates for almost 17 years. At some point in her murky past, she was a middle school teacher. The only pseudo-historian is Ayers. The rest have no business making the decision. There was no free and fair public debate and vote at the legislature. Virginia is completely controlled (for now) by the Democratic Party. All eight members of the Committee were hardcore Democrats, and mostly Democratic technocrats. The statue is a work of art by Edward Virginius Valentine more than a century ago in 1909 in bronze. That is awesome. Doorstops? Seriously? At least they are replacing this statue, though. Hopefully, the statue of Barbara Rose Johns turns out well. Your post loses all credibility calling Ayers a "pseudo-historian." Ayers has a BA from University of Tennessee in American Studies and a PhD for the same from Yale. He started as an assistant professor at University of Virginia and rose through the ranks to become a full time professor, an award-winning professor, then Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences and then moving on to become the President of the University of Richmond. He has won a Fulbright Fellowship, The National Humanities Medal and several awards for his books, "In the Presence of Mine Enemies: The Civil War In America, 1859-1864" and "The Promise of the New South: Life After Reconstruction." He is recognized as an expert on the Civil War. He has won national awards for his excellent teaching, as well. What is the point of reading your post further? You are way off the mark on Ayers and I suspect that it's the same story on the other delegates of the commission. People who have reached an opinion that is different than yours are not automatically unqualified idiots. American Studies is not History. They are separate majors. And American Studies has little to do with History. He won a Fulbright Fellowship for American Studies again. The National Humanities Medal was won for his digital New American History curriculum. Color me unimpressed in New American History, his digitization of it and his award for it. Ayers is a psuedo-historian, inasmuch as he is trying to rewrite American History. I sincerely doubt that anyone on this list is an idiot. I 100% believe that all eight are uniquely unqualified to serve on the board. And I 100% believe that all eight are uniquely qualified to come to an unbiased decision. I am responding to someone earlier, who tried to make it out that this was somehow an unbiased decision. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 31, 2020 14:16:21 GMT -8
That's not true. The decision was made by: Dr. Edward L. Ayers, former President of the University of Richmond, and hardcore Democrat ideolog who helped to write the "New American History." He is not a professor of history, only "New American History." He is one of the foremost men in America actively working to erase and rewrite American History. Dr. Colita Nichols Faifax, a Doctor of African American Studies at Nofolk State University. She is the wife of Tony Fairfax, who is almost always used as a consultant or expert, when Democrats are in charge of gerrymandering districts or to help sue Republican districting plans. Julie Langan, an Art History major, who received a masters in Architectural History. She used her degree to ultimately rise to the Director of Virginia Historic Preservation, but her focus is and has always been architectural history preservation. Senator L. Louise Lucas, owns several businesses and has been accused of fraud and double-dealing in regards to property and hotels that she owns. She participated in a mostly peaceful Black Lives Matter riot protest in Portsmouth, Virginia, where four statues dedicated to 379 soldiers who had died in the Civil War were beheaded. She herself was charged with multiple felonies related to her actions, and the Mayor of Portsmouth has indicated that she has been dishonest about her subsequent defense of her actions. Ms. Lucas chaired the eight-member committee. Fred Motley, a professional actor, director and "storyteller." Chief G. Anne Richardson, the Chief of the Rappahannock Tribe, as was her father before her, his father before him and his father before him. ![]() Margaret Vanderhye, a former Clinton appointee and former member of the Northern Virginia Transportation Authority appointed by Govenors Mark Warner and Tim Kaine (now, the two Democratic Senators from Virginia). She was a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates before being defeated by Barbara Comstock. Vanderhye has largely been absent from the public eye for more than a decade, so it is great to see that she is still getting work. Delegate Jeion A. Ward, the President of the Hampton Federation of Teachers, AFT Local 4260 for the past 22 (or so) years. She is also a member of Virginia's AFL-CIO Executive Council. She has been a Delegate in the Virginia House of Delegates for almost 17 years. At some point in her murky past, she was a middle school teacher. The only pseudo-historian is Ayers. The rest have no business making the decision. There was no free and fair public debate and vote at the legislature. Virginia is completely controlled (for now) by the Democratic Party. All eight members of the Committee were hardcore Democrats, and mostly Democratic technocrats. The statue is a work of art by Edward Virginius Valentine more than a century ago in 1909 in bronze. That is awesome. Doorstops? Seriously? At least they are replacing this statue, though. Hopefully, the statue of Barbara Rose Johns turns out well. No. Very true. lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+HB1406 lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+vot+HV2073+HB1406The name of the bill that passed 52-30 for the appointment of the committee was: "HB 1406 Historical Statues in the United States Capitol, Commission for; removal of Robert E. Lee statue." Passing the legislation was a defacto decision to approve the statue's removal and nobody could have been the least bit surprised by the governor's appointees, the committee's recommendations and the Governor's acceptance of that recommendation. 52-30 on a straight party-line vote. The bill passed the Senate on an 18-18 vote, the Democratic Lieutenant Governor breaking the tie. Meh. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 31, 2020 14:37:47 GMT -8
No. Very true. lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+HB1406 lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+vot+HV2073+HB1406The name of the bill that passed 52-30 for the appointment of the committee was: "HB 1406 Historical Statues in the United States Capitol, Commission for; removal of Robert E. Lee statue." Passing the legislation was a defacto decision to approve the statue's removal and nobody could have been the least bit surprised by the governor's appointees, the committee's recommendations and the Governor's acceptance of that recommendation. 52-30 on a straight party-line vote. The bill passed the Senate on an 18-18 vote, the Democratic Lieutenant Governor breaking the tie. Meh. Don't be a sore loser. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 31, 2020 14:40:16 GMT -8
52-30 on a straight party-line vote. The bill passed the Senate on an 18-18 vote, the Democratic Lieutenant Governor breaking the tie. Meh. Don't be a sore loser. “What is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right.”--Albert Einstein. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 31, 2020 14:45:19 GMT -8
“What is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right.”--Albert Einstein. Anyone who wants to pay homage to that lovely statue will still have their opportunity. In fact it'll probably be easier for Lee's remaining fans in Virginia to see it at its new home in the Virginia Historical Society than it ever was when it was in the Crypt of the US Capitol. So everyone wins. Except for me. I was hoping to buy a commemorative doorstop (or a boot scraper) from the salvaged bronze. Oh well, life goes on.  |
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Post by seastape on Dec 31, 2020 17:41:55 GMT -8
Your post loses all credibility calling Ayers a "pseudo-historian." Ayers has a BA from University of Tennessee in American Studies and a PhD for the same from Yale. He started as an assistant professor at University of Virginia and rose through the ranks to become a full time professor, an award-winning professor, then Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences and then moving on to become the President of the University of Richmond. He has won a Fulbright Fellowship, The National Humanities Medal and several awards for his books, "In the Presence of Mine Enemies: The Civil War In America, 1859-1864" and "The Promise of the New South: Life After Reconstruction." He is recognized as an expert on the Civil War. He has won national awards for his excellent teaching, as well. What is the point of reading your post further? You are way off the mark on Ayers and I suspect that it's the same story on the other delegates of the commission. People who have reached an opinion that is different than yours are not automatically unqualified idiots. American Studies is not History. They are separate majors. And American Studies has little to do with History. He won a Fulbright Fellowship for American Studies again. The National Humanities Medal was won for his digital New American History curriculum. Color me unimpressed in New American History, his digitization of it and his award for it. Ayers is a psuedo-historian, inasmuch as he is trying to rewrite American History. I sincerely doubt that anyone on this list is an idiot. I 100% believe that all eight are uniquely unqualified to serve on the board. And I 100% believe that all eight are uniquely qualified to come to an unbiased decision. I am responding to someone earlier, who tried to make it out that this was somehow an unbiased decision. American History is a big part of American Studies and you know it. American Studies is a degree of conglomeration of the American experience, which can include, outside of the traditional History classes, studies of American politics and culture (to include gender and ethnic studies), which are in essence history classes by another name, and law and economics, both of which have a flavor of history about them. I have a degree in Political Science, a large component of which is the study of post-World War II politics, which is essentially a bunch of modern history classes. In fact, I would call all but two of my Poli-Sci classes (Intro to Political Analysis and Modern (which was actually more "Renaissance") Political Thought) history classes that were taught by Professors from the Political Science Department. Ayers' Fulbright Fellowship is no joke and represents serious academic power, as does the Humanities Medal. To say that the recipient is not worthy of being called a historian, as he is expanding the field of study of history, is a joke in itself but then you also ignore his authorship of two prize-winning books about the American Civil War. I think those books might be qualified as historical. Frankly, the decision to replace a statue is not a strictly historical decision but one of culture, anyway. All of the people on the board have some eminence in some aspect of cultural awareness. The decision to place these people on a commission that was specifically created by the legislature with the purpose of replacing the Robert E Lee statue of course includes people who specifically don't subscribe to the notion that Civil War statues (or, more specifically, Jim Crow and or Segregationist statues) belong in the public tableau. No s%#t, right? |
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 31, 2020 22:50:53 GMT -8
Well, one thing is known however. Lee’s army never got caught cheating on a calculus final. That’s why there’s a little known statue of him riding what appears to be a bucking horse, but it’s actually an integral symbol.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 1, 2021 15:04:30 GMT -8
Looks like we'll have some new names for 10 military bases. Lots of more appropriate names to choose from.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 2, 2021 14:11:43 GMT -8
Looks like we'll have some new names for 10 military bases. Lots of more appropriate names to choose from. Is it just the 10, or are they changing all 12? I'll be curious to see what they're renamed. |
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