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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 10, 2020 20:20:10 GMT -8
For men's hoops? Baseball has Mitch Football has 9'r So which former player will replace the tinkle? Don’t limit ourselves! Not healthy in most cases. Get the best! Even if he’s from (gulp) U of O. Go for the best!
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 10, 2020 21:05:05 GMT -8
For men's hoops? Baseball has Mitch Football has 9'r So which former player will replace the tinkle? Lester RIGHT???
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 10, 2020 21:12:35 GMT -8
does he have a degree? Was required last time this conversation came up Can't we just grant him an honorary degree?
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 10, 2020 21:20:26 GMT -8
Can’t we just hire an up and coming coach that didn’t have OSU ties? Don’t look now, but any young coach with them doesn’t have any history of success here!
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 10, 2020 21:31:24 GMT -8
Can’t we just hire an up and coming coach that didn’t have OSU ties? Don’t look now, but any young coach with them doesn’t have any history of success here! I was just joking about Lester C. He gets brought up seemingly at EVERY coaching change since Jimmy Anderson was fired.
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 10, 2020 21:34:58 GMT -8
Can’t we just hire an up and coming coach that didn’t have OSU ties? Don’t look now, but any young coach with them doesn’t have any history of success here! I was just joking about Lester C. He gets brought up seemingly at EVERY coaching change since Jimmy Anderson was fired. I know. He’s 61 and a career NBA assistant. What would he possibly bring to college recruiting and coaching? I loved him as a player. He was great! Let it go. Let’s aim higher.
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 10, 2020 21:36:17 GMT -8
Whatever happens don't get k-states coach they lost to D2 Hay State by 15 or so.
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 10, 2020 21:45:25 GMT -8
Whatever happens don't get k-states coach they lost to D2 Hay State by 15 or so. Probably Rolando Blackmon if they’re like our fan base!
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Post by sparty on Dec 11, 2020 7:19:22 GMT -8
Would Coach Rueck entertain the idea to at least rebuild the program?
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Dec 11, 2020 8:17:08 GMT -8
For men's hoops? Baseball has Mitch Football has 9'r So which former player will replace the tinkle? While we're on the former player topic... There aren't many of note in the last 30 years that would really fit the bill. GP? Or screw it, let's just jump straight from father to son and hire Tres!
Regarding the Rueck comment, completely different game to coach men's vs. women's. Recruiting entirely different, far more $$$, trying to overcome dirty recruiting from our peers, etc. involved in MBB. Not discounting what he's done with the Women's program, but I really wish people would stop making that comparison and think he's the right guy to jump to the men's team. Not gonna happen.
I agree with the general mood around the board however. I've been a Tinkle supporter for a long time, but not sure how we can justify this at this point. But with the COVID debt, nothing will change next year coaching wise unless Tinkle makes that decision himself. We may even have Ethan and ZR back again next year since this year doesn't count against anyone's eligibility. It'll be 2022 at the earliest we see any coaching changes from our AD.
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Post by beaverstever on Dec 11, 2020 9:18:37 GMT -8
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Post by beavheart on Dec 11, 2020 9:55:24 GMT -8
Not a fan of this game, but even as someone who has been squarely behind Tinkle as our HC I have to face the fact that there seems to be a disconnect between players and coach in our program. There's a lot to that - the whole coaches sons on the team dynamic has been, for whatever reason, a net drag on the program. We are just now seeing what Tinkle might be like as a HC without that drag on the team.
IF we are faced with replacing yet another HC, why would we limit the search whatsoever? Pat Casey was not a legacy. He played at UofP. Only Niner actually played at OSU, and while Rueck is an alum both coaches are successful for a bunch of reasons that have nothing to do with where they played or went to school. I think we now know that a "certain type" of coach seems to work in Corvallis. It takes a little more work, a little more effort, a little more caring to be successful at OSU.
That said, if Phil Knight himself was able to coach the program into a winner would it matter that he is Phil Knight?
If we are looking for someone that played in our area I might actually be interested in what Luke Jackson is up to. Lamar Hurd is great behind the mic, but doesn't seem to have any coaching aspirations. What is Joe Burton up to? I don't really know who is out there, but focusing on former players from our area seems like an unnecessary limitation.
Maybe Terry Porter would move to Corvallis? Isn't Damon Stoudamire coaching somewhere? Just thinking someone with an NBA connection might be able to pull in the kind of talent we have been missing. Again, I feel like this is still premature (this season is far from over), but I can't see limiting our options if we are to go down this road again. The program limitations in Corvallis are overstated. The "right" coach can win in a big way in Corvallis. We know this. I just hope we aren't too fixated on the "right fit" if we end up searching again. Tinkle was the "right fit." Find a winner and give him a chance.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 11, 2020 10:12:38 GMT -8
Not a fan of this game, but even as someone who has been squarely behind Tinkle as our HC I have to face the fact that there seems to be a disconnect between players and coach in our program. There's a lot to that - the whole coaches sons on the team dynamic has been, for whatever reason, a net drag on the program. We are just now seeing what Tinkle might be like as a HC without that drag on the team. IF we are faced with replacing yet another HC, why would we limit the search whatsoever? Pat Casey was not a legacy. He played at UofP. Only Niner actually played at OSU, and while Rueck is an alum both coaches are successful for a bunch of reasons that have nothing to do with where they played or went to school. I think we now know that a "certain type" of coach seems to work in Corvallis. It takes a little more work, a little more effort, a little more caring to be successful at OSU. That said, if Phil Knight himself was able to coach the program into a winner would it matter that he is Phil Knight? If we are looking for someone that played in our area I might actually be interested in what Luke Jackson is up to. Lamar Hurd is great behind the mic, but doesn't seem to have any coaching aspirations. What is Joe Burton up to? I don't really know who is out there, but focusing on former players from our area seems like an unnecessary limitation. Maybe Terry Porter would move to Corvallis? Isn't Damon Stoudamire coaching somewhere? Just thinking someone with an NBA connection might be able to pull in the kind of talent we have been missing. Again, I feel like this is still premature (this season is far from over), but I can't see limiting our options if we are to go down this road again. The program limitations in Corvallis are overstated. The "right" coach can win in a big way in Corvallis. We know this. I just hope we aren't too fixated on the "right fit" if we end up searching again. Tinkle was the "right fit." Find a winner and give him a chance. As I mentioned on the other thread, Terry Porter is 41-93 at UP. Stoudamire has done OK at Pacific. Shantay Legans at Eastern Washington (yes, another Big Sky coach) would also be one to look at.
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Post by beavheart on Dec 11, 2020 11:10:30 GMT -8
Maybe Terry Porter would move to Corvallis? Isn't Damon Stoudamire coaching somewhere? Just thinking someone with an NBA connection might be able to pull in the kind of talent we have been missing. Again, I feel like this is still premature (this season is far from over), but I can't see limiting our options if we are to go down this road again. The program limitations in Corvallis are overstated. The "right" coach can win in a big way in Corvallis. We know this. I just hope we aren't too fixated on the "right fit" if we end up searching again. Tinkle was the "right fit." Find a winner and give him a chance. As I mentioned on the other thread, Terry Porter is 41-93 at UP. Stoudamire has done OK at Pacific. Shantay Legans at Eastern Washington (yes, another Big Sky coach) would also be one to look at. Fair enough. Seems like it's also fair to point out that UP has been a non-factor for basically forever, and his record there should be viewed with that in mind. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on the TP train after one game. Honestly, I still think this whole thread is premature. Still, there is no question that the best player on the floor last night was not a Beav. I think it's pretty obvious that TP has his program headed in the right direction. They played an organized and inspired game against us last night. TP deserves some credit for that. Frankly, I'm happy to see him doing well there and hope he turn UP into a legit contender.
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Post by irimi on Dec 11, 2020 11:40:11 GMT -8
Porter would be fun. We need something to inject a little hope and confidence into the program.
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