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Post by jdogge on Sept 30, 2020 22:12:52 GMT -8
that Talia and Greta are now four stars on ESPN?
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Post by beaveragain on Sept 30, 2020 23:10:31 GMT -8
Yes. Different people doing the rating.
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Post by jdogge on Sept 30, 2020 23:29:08 GMT -8
Yes. Different people doing the rating. ESPN had them as fives until recently. |
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Post by beaveragain on Sept 30, 2020 23:56:36 GMT -8
Yes, ESPN has different people/company doing their ratings now.
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Post by bennyskid on Oct 1, 2020 5:38:30 GMT -8
And they cut the number of 5-stars roughly in half. Which was probably overdue.
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Post by TheGlove on Oct 1, 2020 8:20:11 GMT -8
How many threads are we gonna have on this topic?  |
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Post by 411500 on Oct 1, 2020 9:03:11 GMT -8
As an outside observer, it seems to me that the evaluators of WBB talent have moved closer to the criteria that has traditionally been used to evaluate Men's and boy's basketball talent.
When awarding 5-Stars in WBB there now is more emphasis on athleticism, on speed, on shooting and passing off the dribble, and creative scoring....Basically, the skills that most impresses you about Men's basketball is becoming the index for adjudicating WBB talent.
So, to use local examples, evaluators are rating players with Slocum-skills higher than players with Tudor, Goodman or Corosdale type skills.
Players with Aari McDonald skills higher than Sydney Wiese-type-skills.... This is not an unfailing rule - but I think it is a good general guideline as to what is going on.
In very general old-school language, there is now a much higher premium on highly skilled "street players" than on highly skilled "system players."
Historically, WBB has been dominated by high competence "system players." In the past decade there has been an infusion of highly talented, improvisational street players, and they have (just as in men's basketball) altered the way the game is played....And, in turn, altered the kind of player (and the kind of skills) that can most impact a game.
Rueck is one of the few elite level coaches who consistently recruits almost exclusively high talent system players - because he coaches a high-system program. In that regard, he is similar to Ralph Miller.
If you were to use the very general categories I have suggested here, you will find that 5-star ratings are now dominated by the high talent "improvisational" players, and more of the high talent system-players are receiving the 4-star ratings....
At any rate, that's how I'm looking at it.....
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by beavs6 on Oct 1, 2020 9:26:28 GMT -8
As an outside observer, it seems to me that the evaluators of WBB talent have moved closer to the criteria that has traditionally been used to evaluate Men's and boy's basketball talent. When awarding 5-Stars in WBB there now is more emphasis on athleticism, on speed, on shooting and passing off the dribble, and creative scoring....Basically, the skills that most impresses you about Men's basketball is becoming the index for adjudicating WBB talent. So, to use local examples, evaluators are rating players with Slocum-skills higher than players with Tudor, Goodman or Corosdale type skills. Players with Aari McDonald skills higher than Sydney Wiese-type-skills.... This is not an unfailing rule - but I think it is a good general guideline as to what is going on. In very general old-school language, there is now a much higher premium on highly skilled "street players" than on highly skilled "system players." Historically, WBB has been dominated by high competence "system players." In the past decade there has been an infusion of highly talented, improvisational street players, and they have (just as in men's basketball) altered the way the game is played....And, in turn, altered the kind of player (and the kind of skills) that can most impact a game. Rueck is one of the few elite level coaches who consistently recruits almost exclusively high talent system players - because he coaches a high-system program. In that regard, he is similar to Ralph Miller. If you were to use the very general categories I have suggested here, you will find that 5-star ratings are now dominated by the high talent "improvisational" players, and more of the high talent system-players are receiving the 4-star ratings.... At any rate, that's how I'm looking at it..... GO BEAVS!! Would a fair "Cliff notes" version be: Highly athletic/talented players vs Highly skilled players? That's at least how I think of the difference. |
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Post by 411500 on Oct 1, 2020 10:22:17 GMT -8
No, it is not a fair summary.
Both types of players are highly skilled and highly athletic.
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by sparty on Oct 1, 2020 11:38:26 GMT -8
How many threads are we gonna have on this topic? Well I give this thread 5 stars  |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 1, 2020 16:36:19 GMT -8
How many threads are we gonna have on this topic?  |
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Post by newduke2 on Oct 1, 2020 18:15:04 GMT -8
How many threads are we gonna have on this topic? Well I give this thread 5 stars And this rating is in effect AFTER the number of 5 star threads was cut in half. Impressive. |
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Post by rmancarl on Oct 1, 2020 18:53:24 GMT -8
As an outside observer, it seems to me that the evaluators of WBB talent have moved closer to the criteria that has traditionally been used to evaluate Men's and boy's basketball talent. When awarding 5-Stars in WBB there now is more emphasis on athleticism, on speed, on shooting and passing off the dribble, and creative scoring....Basically, the skills that most impresses you about Men's basketball is becoming the index for adjudicating WBB talent. So, to use local examples, evaluators are rating players with Slocum-skills higher than players with Tudor, Goodman or Corosdale type skills. Players with Aari McDonald skills higher than Sydney Wiese-type-skills.... This is not an unfailing rule - but I think it is a good general guideline as to what is going on. In very general old-school language, there is now a much higher premium on highly skilled "street players" than on highly skilled "system players." Historically, WBB has been dominated by high competence "system players." In the past decade there has been an infusion of highly talented, improvisational street players, and they have (just as in men's basketball) altered the way the game is played....And, in turn, altered the kind of player (and the kind of skills) that can most impact a game. Rueck is one of the few elite level coaches who consistently recruits almost exclusively high talent system players - because he coaches a high-system program. In that regard, he is similar to Ralph Miller. If you were to use the very general categories I have suggested here, you will find that 5-star ratings are now dominated by the high talent "improvisational" players, and more of the high talent system-players are receiving the 4-star ratings.... At any rate, that's how I'm looking at it..... GO BEAVS!! I believe this post is about as accurate as we can expect right now. Nice post 411500. |
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