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Post by rmancarl on Sept 28, 2020 17:42:58 GMT -8
Last year I tried telling people Arizona was going to be one of the top teams, but it was a tough sell to some who didn't think the post season NIT showed anything, or didn't realize how good Cate Reese was. There are still some non believers, but they will again be a tough team.
I've followed Adia Barnes on twitter for some time now, and I can tell you that she is making a mark with many of the top recruits. She's a force, and it will be interesting to watch if she can battle top Pac-12 teams like Stanford, Oregon State, Oregon, and UCLA on a regular basis. The next couple years will be very important for her program. The Pac 12 looks to be a real battle for years to come.
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Post by bvrbooster on Sept 28, 2020 22:25:30 GMT -8
thanks for posting the attendance info bvrbooster..... Even a quick look shows how much attendance is influenced by the uptick in a team's win-loss record.... Stanford stays pretty much the same no matter what, and to me that indicates a hard core base of support with very little impact from "bandwagon" fans who gravitate to the gym when their team is winning, but not otherwise.... The Ducks, Beavs and Wildcats had very impressive attendance numbers this past year......U of A has really shown what a combination of winning on the court, and intense community PR work can do.....The Arizona coach (Adia Barnes) has really waded into the Tucson community-at-large, speaking everywhere that 10 people congregate, and she has won over a LOT of fans to her as a person, and to her team..... The Pac is the currently the national leader in WBB talent and it looks like when fans are allowed back in the gyms, we are going to see a lot of programs with impressive attendance numbers.... U of A, ASU, UCA, Stanford, Oregon, OSU all are showing solid support for their WBB programs.... When things finally re-open I'd love to see the Beavs average 7,000 per game.....To reach this number will involve considerably improved PR work beyond what's going on now, but it's certainly do-able if the students would get off their butts and show up in numbers the team deserves... GO BEAVS!! Another way of looking at Stanford's attendance is that they have basically peaked. They've had terrific teams for decades, but attendance is flat. That doesn't surprise me. I went to the OSU Stanford football game there some years ago, when the stadium was new and Andrew Luck was their quarterback. The place was about half full, and I saw almost as much orange as cardinal. They just don't seem to draw fans. Agree with you totally about OSU getting the students out for women's basketball. I'd start with the sororities, and start building a student section around them. Devote some upper level section to it, sell them a season pass for 25 bucks, and push them to come out and support the most successful women on campus. It's pretty much a given that if you get the girls to show up, the boys will follow. I just can't see it being that hard.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 29, 2020 8:44:09 GMT -8
Students already get into games for free, thanks to the athletic fee they pay each term. Why have them pay $25 for a season pass?
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Post by bvrbooster on Sept 29, 2020 9:03:48 GMT -8
Didn't know that (obviously).
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Post by beaverstever on Oct 22, 2020 8:20:49 GMT -8
Comparing this to Lindy's; They have: 2: Stanford 6: Arizona 8: UCLA 10: UO 22: OSU So pretty similar, except the disrespect for OSU. Of note, they have Ark at 15 and Gonzaga at 19. IMO, there is no way this OSU teams finishes outside of the top 20, barring injury problems on par with last year.
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Post by rmancarl on Oct 22, 2020 11:04:33 GMT -8
This year is going to be interesting because of the schedule. With a 22 game Pac12 schedule, the Beavs will have a much more tougher schedule than normal, as there won't be as many cupcake games. Of course, this will be true of all the Pac12 as well. Some teams outside the Pac12 will have a much easier road though, as their schedules will be much easier. In my mind, it may be a bit harder to rank the top 25, as everyone will be playing a shorter schedule, and schedule strength will vary widely. I think there is a good chance the Beavs will be better than many expect but it is hard to predict until they hit the floor.....just over a month away now!!
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Post by lotrader on Oct 22, 2020 11:15:09 GMT -8
Comparing this to Lindy's; They have: 2: Stanford 6: Arizona 8: UCLA 10: UO 22: OSU So pretty similar, except the disrespect for OSU. Of note, they have Ark at 15 and Gonzaga at 19. IMO, there is no way this OSU teams finishes outside of the top 20, barring injury problems on par with last year. It shouldn't be a surprise to any OSU WBB fan that OSU isn't getting ranked higher. When has OSU WBB received sustained year over year respect beyond those who pay attention from the west coast? With the departure of Mik & Destiny, who were our two best players last year, it is no surprise to me that we are seen as #22. We know better, but, our team wil have to prove it, especially after our PAC-12 record last year. Don't forget that not having BeaverNation in attendance at home games may cost our team a few points/game. I do see Arkansas as legit, they will be very good this year with the addition of Destiny and their returning lineup.
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 22, 2020 11:51:37 GMT -8
Comparing this to Lindy's; They have: 2: Stanford 6: Arizona 8: UCLA 10: UO 22: OSU So pretty similar, except the disrespect for OSU. Of note, they have Ark at 15 and Gonzaga at 19. IMO, there is no way this OSU teams finishes outside of the top 20, barring injury problems on par with last year. It shouldn't be a surprise to any OSU WBB fan that OSU isn't getting ranked higher. When has OSU WBB received sustained year over year respect beyond those who pay attention from the west coast? With the departure of Mik & Destiny, who were our two best players last year, it is no surprise to me that we are seen as #22. We know better, but, our team wil have to prove it, especially after our PAC-12 record last year. Don't forget that not having BeaverNation in attendance at home games may cost our team a few points/game. I do see Arkansas as legit, they will be very good this year with the addition of Destiny and their returning lineup. We know better? That’s about right where I’d have the Beavs. Without Kennedy and a PG that can consistently beat a defender off the dribble, I think this is a rebuilding year.
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Post by beaverstever on Oct 22, 2020 12:37:04 GMT -8
Other than Destiny, have we ever had a PG that could beat a defender off the dribble? Those years seem to have generally turned out well under Rueck. That said, I agree this team needs some big surprise developments to be a top 10 team, but I believe the pieces are there expect we can be a 4+ seed at the end of the season. Of course, maybe that's now considered a rebuilding year around here?
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 22, 2020 12:47:30 GMT -8
Other than Destiny, have we ever had a PG that could beat a defender off the dribble? Those years seem to have generally turned out well under Rueck. That said, I agree this team needs some big surprise developments to be a top 10 team, but I believe the pieces are there expect we can be a 4+ seed at the end of the season. Of course, maybe that's now considered a rebuilding year around here? Sydney could use her size and ball handling skills to get around defenders.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 13:13:57 GMT -8
Other than Destiny, have we ever had a PG that could beat a defender off the dribble? Those years seem to have generally turned out well under Rueck. That said, I agree this team needs some big surprise developments to be a top 10 team, but I believe the pieces are there expect we can be a 4+ seed at the end of the season. Of course, maybe that's now considered a rebuilding year around here? Sydney could use her size and ball handling skills to get around defenders. No, Sydney couldn't, not against a quick small guard. She was hamstrung too many times unable to move when she was being harrassed by one of them. I recall this clearly as my major issue with her. Yes, an excellent ball-handler, but not when being manned-up by an aggressive small player. She was just too long.
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Post by beaveragain on Oct 22, 2020 13:19:53 GMT -8
I find it baffling that the Ducks are ranked so high. All they have left is Boley and she was great against the nobodies and zip against the somebodies last season. The rest of the team is a couple of backups and a bunch of players who have never played college ball. Is is possible that they will end up a top ten team, yes. Is it probable, no.
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Post by bennyskid on Oct 22, 2020 13:33:44 GMT -8
Aleah can't drive around the quicker girls, but it's really hard to keep her from getting her shot off. Just like Syd - quick release and nice fade. I don't see PG as a weakness - it's the overall guard depth.
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Post by lotrader on Oct 22, 2020 13:35:39 GMT -8
It shouldn't be a surprise to any OSU WBB fan that OSU isn't getting ranked higher. When has OSU WBB received sustained year over year respect beyond those who pay attention from the west coast? With the departure of Mik & Destiny, who were our two best players last year, it is no surprise to me that we are seen as #22. We know better, but, our team wil have to prove it, especially after our PAC-12 record last year. Don't forget that not having BeaverNation in attendance at home games may cost our team a few points/game. I do see Arkansas as legit, they will be very good this year with the addition of Destiny and their returning lineup. We know better? That’s about right where I’d have the Beavs. Without Kennedy and a PG that can consistently beat a defender off the dribble, I think this is a rebuilding year. Maybe I should have said, "I know better". We have lots of talent on this team, but maybe lack experience at the point (outside of Aleah). However, we have some great additions (talent + experience) all over the floor. I have a belief, based upon multiple years of history of Rueck teams, that we will see some positive surprises this next season, resulting in a TOP 15 team by end of regular season (barring significant injuries).
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 22, 2020 14:09:53 GMT -8
Sydney could use her size and ball handling skills to get around defenders. No, Sydney couldn't, not against a quick small guard. She was hamstrung too many times unable to move when she was being harrassed by one of them. I recall this clearly as my major issue with her. Yes, an excellent ball-handler, but not when being manned-up by an aggressive small player. She was just too long. So according to you, Syd was really 6’5” due to her wingspan.....😄
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