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Post by rafer on Sept 15, 2020 11:01:10 GMT -8
Graves is 57. Campbell is probably gonna be waiting quite a while to take over in Eugene. I would be really surprised if he doesn't become a head coach somewhere else sooner than later. Campbell and his wife are both from the Northwest and from what I hear want to stay in the NW to raise their family which limits his head coaching options. Graves has been coaching for over 30 years, I would not be surprised if he doesn't hang it up in the next 5 or 6 years. Campbell would be in his mid 40s at that time? I would not be surprised if the possibility of Campbell taking over at that time has not been discussed. Depends on if unca fill likes him.....ole money bags runs everything down there...
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Post by nwhoopfan on Sept 15, 2020 11:22:34 GMT -8
Graves is 57. Campbell is probably gonna be waiting quite a while to take over in Eugene. I would be really surprised if he doesn't become a head coach somewhere else sooner than later. Campbell and his wife are both from the Northwest and from what I hear want to stay in the NW to raise their family which limits his head coaching options. Graves has been coaching for over 30 years, I would not be surprised if he doesn't hang it up in the next 5 or 6 years. Campbell would be in his mid 40s at that time? I would not be surprised if the possibility of Campbell taking over at that time has not been discussed. Geno is 66 and Tara is 67. Both are recruiting about as well as they ever have and don't look like they are on the verge of riding off into the sunset. While her best years are behind her C. Viv is 72 (!) and still going. What makes you think Graves will hang it up right around or just after 60? He had some really nice teams at Gonzaga, but he's on a whole different level now, and it took him a while to build to that. The last 3 years have been the best of his career. Probably can't help but wonder what could've been if there was a Tournament this March. He might want to stick around and keep things rolling at UO and see if he can get a Title or two.
edit--Rueck is 51, should we assume he only has about 10 years left?
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Post by sparty on Sept 15, 2020 11:39:39 GMT -8
Campbell and his wife are both from the Northwest and from what I hear want to stay in the NW to raise their family which limits his head coaching options. Graves has been coaching for over 30 years, I would not be surprised if he doesn't hang it up in the next 5 or 6 years. Campbell would be in his mid 40s at that time? I would not be surprised if the possibility of Campbell taking over at that time has not been discussed. Geno is 66 and Tara is 67. Both are recruiting about as well as they ever have and don't look like they are on the verge of riding off into the sunset. While her best years are behind her C. Viv is 72 (!) and still going. What makes you think Graves will hang it up right around or just after 60? He had some really nice teams at Gonzaga, but he's on a whole different level now, and it took him a while to build to that. The last 3 years have been the best of his career. Probably can't help but wonder what could've been if there was a Tournament this March. He might want to stick around and keep things rolling at UO and see if he can get a Title or two.
edit--Rueck is 51, should we assume he only has about 10 years left?
Save this post. In six years both schools will have different womens basketball coaches. Graves is an early retirement type, especially if he gets the win it all trophy. Rueck just a feeling he could go somewhere else.
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Post by bvrbooster on Sept 15, 2020 12:04:15 GMT -8
I don't envision Rueck leaving until retirement unless some force external to him and his job satisfaction acts upon him and causes him to think this environment is no longer optimal for him and his family. What that force would be, I have no idea at this time. But strange things happen.
If, for example, there were nightly riots in Corvallis for 15 weeks, that might be nature's way of saying it's time to get out of Dodge. Or if those same fine citizens took over a 9 square block section of Corvallis and the mayor said it was akin to a 'summer of love', one's thoughts would naturally turn to easing on down the road.
Six months ago, those would have been thought ridiculous extreme examples; now they're Northwest history. The current environment of Corvallis and OSU fits Rueck to a T. If they don't change, he'll stay here. If they do change, who knows?
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 15, 2020 12:06:28 GMT -8
I don't envision Rueck leaving until retirement unless some force external to him and his job satisfaction acts upon him and causes him to think this environment is no longer optimal for him and his family. What that force would be, I have no idea at this time. But strange things happen. If, for example, there were nightly riots in Corvallis for 15 weeks, that might be nature's way of saying it's time to get out of Dodge. Or if those same fine citizens took over a 9 square block section of Corvallis and the mayor said it was akin to a 'summer of love', one's thoughts would naturally turn to easing on down the road. Six months ago, those would have been thought ridiculous extreme examples; now they're Northwest history. The current environment of Corvallis and OSU fits Rueck to a T. If they don't change, he'll stay here. If they do change, who knows? Change is the only constant.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Sept 15, 2020 13:27:39 GMT -8
Geno is 66 and Tara is 67. Both are recruiting about as well as they ever have and don't look like they are on the verge of riding off into the sunset. While her best years are behind her C. Viv is 72 (!) and still going. What makes you think Graves will hang it up right around or just after 60? He had some really nice teams at Gonzaga, but he's on a whole different level now, and it took him a while to build to that. The last 3 years have been the best of his career. Probably can't help but wonder what could've been if there was a Tournament this March. He might want to stick around and keep things rolling at UO and see if he can get a Title or two.
edit--Rueck is 51, should we assume he only has about 10 years left?
Save this post. In six years both schools will have different womens basketball coaches. Graves is an early retirement type, especially if he gets the win it all trophy. Rueck just a feeling he could go somewhere else. Well that's a bold prediction! 6 years from now Paige Bueckers will be 2 years into her pro career, and Azzi Fudd who all the UConn fans are desperate to get and hasn't even finished her high school career yet, will also be a pro. I'm not saying either of those coaches are gonna coach forever, but they're both a decade older than Graves and neither seems to be in a hurry to leave. I have no idea if Graves is an early retirement type, but I'm guessing neither do you.
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 15, 2020 17:15:02 GMT -8
Geno is 66 and Tara is 67. Both are recruiting about as well as they ever have and don't look like they are on the verge of riding off into the sunset. While her best years are behind her C. Viv is 72 (!) and still going. What makes you think Graves will hang it up right around or just after 60? He had some really nice teams at Gonzaga, but he's on a whole different level now, and it took him a while to build to that. The last 3 years have been the best of his career. Probably can't help but wonder what could've been if there was a Tournament this March. He might want to stick around and keep things rolling at UO and see if he can get a Title or two.
edit--Rueck is 51, should we assume he only has about 10 years left?
Save this post. In six years both schools will have different womens basketball coaches. Graves is an early retirement type, especially if he gets the win it all trophy. Rueck just a feeling he could go somewhere else. Ctrl+C Such predictions on this board have a historically low realization rate. Inversely proportional to the certitude with which they are proclaimed.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Sept 15, 2020 17:51:04 GMT -8
Or if those same fine citizens took over a 9 square block section of Corvallis and the mayor said it was akin to a 'summer of love', one's thoughts would naturally turn to easing on down the road. Would the center be Central park? I think that is called Fall Festival
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 15, 2020 19:43:27 GMT -8
If, for example, there were nightly riots in Corvallis for 15 weeks, that might be nature's way of saying it's time to get out of Dodge. Or if those same fine citizens took over a 9 square block section of Corvallis and the mayor said it was akin to a 'summer of love', one's thoughts would naturally turn to easing on down the road.
There's a much, much higher chance of one of his black players being profiled, hassled and detained by the OSP, CPD or BCSO, than the scenarios you envision. Especially since such conduct is also part of Northwest history, for a much, much longer period of time.
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Post by beavs6 on Sept 15, 2020 20:06:37 GMT -8
If, for example, there were nightly riots in Corvallis for 15 weeks, that might be nature's way of saying it's time to get out of Dodge. Or if those same fine citizens took over a 9 square block section of Corvallis and the mayor said it was akin to a 'summer of love', one's thoughts would naturally turn to easing on down the road.There's a much, much higher chance of one of his black players being profiled, hassled and detained by the OSP, CPD or BCSO, than the scenarios you envision. Especially since such conduct is also part of Northwest history, for a much, much longer period of time. So you agree it could happen.
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Post by bvrbooster on Sept 15, 2020 21:40:00 GMT -8
If, for example, there were nightly riots in Corvallis for 15 weeks, that might be nature's way of saying it's time to get out of Dodge. Or if those same fine citizens took over a 9 square block section of Corvallis and the mayor said it was akin to a 'summer of love', one's thoughts would naturally turn to easing on down the road.There's a much, much higher chance of one of his black players being profiled, hassled and detained by the OSP, CPD or BCSO, than the scenarios you envision. Especially since such conduct is also part of Northwest history, for a much, much longer period of time. Well, I can't agree with that. I wouldn't dispute that it has probably happened well in the past, but I am unaware of anything like that happening in the years I've been living in Corvallis. (And please don't try to claim that happened with the girl on the bike. I've watched that video in its entirety, and the young lady brought everything on herself.) Your argument would seem to be that other cities and counties employ law enforcement officers who are racists, the city of Corvallis and Benton County also employ law enforcement officers, therefore, the CPD and the BCSO employ racists. You, in turn, could counter with: Bvrbooster knows that liberals have rioted in Portland and Seattle, Corvallis has many liberals, therefore Bvrbooster believes that liberals will riot in Corvallis. Obviously, both would be flawed arguments (and mine was meant to be facetious), but you said there would be a "much, much higher chance" of the racist behavior by our local police, and that I disagree with. In these turbulent times, there hasn't been a single reported incidence of such behavior, whereas there have been reports in the GT of local residents going to Portland to support what has been happening there. So I would submit there's a lesser chance of your scenario than either of my tongue in cheek ones, which are admittedly far fetched. There are 800,000 law enforcement officers in this country. To paint them all with the same brush, be it either as racist or guardian angel, is inaccurate. Personally, I am unaware of any of them locally being anything other than normal, decent guys just doing their job and getting on with their lives. That's as it should be. So I think Scott's players, of all ethnic and national origins, are free from the fear of that happening to them. Can we get back to discussing women's hoops?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 16, 2020 8:14:08 GMT -8
I'll stand by my statement. People of color are regularly profiled in Corvallis.
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Post by bennyskid on Sept 16, 2020 9:15:38 GMT -8
I'll stand by my statement. People of color are regularly profiled in Corvallis. Well . . . that settles it then. No further evidence is required. We can tar any group with any sin we want - no matter how inflammatory the accusation - as long as Henry stands by the statement.
The CPD gets a complaint of "profiling" roughly once a year. It has been years since any has been found to be substantiated.
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Post by beaveragain on Sept 16, 2020 11:04:40 GMT -8
I've talked to black friends who live or have been traveling through Corvallis. None of them have reported bad experiences with local cops, but several told me of unpleasant experiences with locals. Three times I can remember where they got reported to the cops for suspicious activities such as being black while being a middle aged woman walking a dog in a park. Or being black while shopping in a store, etc. But each time the cops who were called let the blacks know that there are crazy white people in Corvallis and if they had any problem with those crazy white people to please call us so we can come and protect you. So no, not problems with the cops that I know of, but yes, problems with racist crazy white people in Corvallis.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 16, 2020 11:13:33 GMT -8
I'll stand by my statement. People of color are regularly profiled in Corvallis. Well . . . that settles it then. No further evidence is required. We can tar any group with any sin we want - no matter how inflammatory the accusation - as long as Henry stands by the statement.
The CPD gets a complaint of "profiling" roughly once a year. It has been years since any has been found to be substantiated.
Believe what you want. I'll believe my friends of color. One coached at OSU, lived in North Albany, and said he was stopped for no reason on the average of twice a month while driving home late at night. To deny systemic racism in the US is to deny an obvious truth.
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