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Post by ocbeav on Sept 9, 2020 11:50:31 GMT -8
Gregg is heading to Gonzaga
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 9, 2020 12:09:19 GMT -8
I would too, given the option.
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Post by nabeav on Sept 9, 2020 12:40:13 GMT -8
Neither was Altman.
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 9, 2020 13:16:10 GMT -8
Dana is focusing on getting him as a grad transfer. |
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Post by nabeav on Sept 9, 2020 13:48:36 GMT -8
Gonzaga didn't even offer Gregg until late August, after a big man they had coveted picked Duke. I don't think it's fair to knock Tinkle when it sounds like nobody had much of a chance once Gonzaga extended an offer. In fact, he announced his commitment date date before even getting the offer from Gonzaga. In all likelihood, he'd be announcing someone else, possibly OSU, if Gonzaga's recruitment of another player didn't go sideways.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 9, 2020 15:45:06 GMT -8
Tony Bennett, the head coach of the reigning national champions, couldn't land him either. He wanted to go to GU from the outset. Good luck to him.
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Post by cavalierbeaver on Sept 9, 2020 16:52:17 GMT -8
Ben Gregg actually really likes Tinkle. His lifelong dream has always been to play for the Zags. Once they offered it was a done deal.Ben is very nice young man with a good head on his shoulders. I wish him nothing but the best.
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 9, 2020 18:37:29 GMT -8
Gonzaga didn't even offer Gregg until late August, after a big man they had coveted picked Duke. I don't think it's fair to knock Tinkle when it sounds like nobody had much of a chance once Gonzaga extended an offer. In fact, he announced his commitment date date before even getting the offer from Gonzaga. In all likelihood, he'd be announcing someone else, possibly OSU, if Gonzaga's recruitment of another player didn't go sideways. Lots O Ifs! |
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Post by sagebrush on Sept 9, 2020 19:33:03 GMT -8
Sometimes a kid, growing into a young adult just want to go someplace else away, just to have an adventure. A new place to grow. Good for him and I hope it works out well for him.
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Post by alwaysorange on Sept 9, 2020 19:47:48 GMT -8
Tinkle should have hired Ben Greggs dad. It's the only chance tinkle had. Face it tinkle is a terrible recruiter.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Sept 9, 2020 22:53:39 GMT -8
Ben Gregg's family is also from Spokane. He went for the right reasons, sometimes you just can't help that. GU was clearly where he wanted to go from the outset and once they offered, like has been said, it was a done deal. Best of luck to him.
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Post by alwaysorange on Sept 10, 2020 11:09:00 GMT -8
Hopefully Someday some people will quit making excuses for Tinkle's lack of recruiting skills. Other than his son and the two Thompson's tell me any other highly recruited kid Tinkle has recruited and landed in the past six years. I will wait. The last excuse was that the Thompsons and Tres took all the playing time. Well two of the three are gone and one is about out the door. Still waiting for a big time recruit.
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Post by sagebrush on Sept 10, 2020 11:28:08 GMT -8
You got it. I am 2/3 , you are recruiting me and I see 3 coach's kids on the team. Fat freaking chance. I am not stupid.
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Post by jdogge on Sept 10, 2020 12:15:57 GMT -8
lol
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Sept 10, 2020 13:17:16 GMT -8
Hopefully Someday some people will quit making excuses for Tinkle's lack of recruiting skills. Other than his son and the two Thompson's tell me any other highly recruited kid Tinkle has recruited and landed in the past six years. I will wait. The last excuse was that the Thompsons and Tres took all the playing time. Well two of the three are gone and one is about out the door. Still waiting for a big time recruit. Drew Eubanks. Oregon's 2015 Mr. Basketball, 4 star recruit. Chose OSU over offers from Gonzaga, UW, WSU, ASU, Portland, SDSU, and interest from Purdue.
Alfred Hollins. 2017 4 star out of Arizona. Chose OSU over offers from ASU, Colorado, DePaul, FSU, LSU, uo, and VT. Interest from UVA, Cal, and USC.
No, the list isn't exhaustive, but I don't understand how people don't see the obvious recruiting challenges at OSU. There is no relevant history of success (1990 and earlier is now over 10 years before current recruits were even born), no geographical advantages, no large/rabid fanbase, facilities are average to slightly above average at best, the prestige of the conference is as low as it has ever been, and there isn't exactly a plethora of local talent available year in and year out.
I also don't understand knocking him for recruiting Tres and the Thompson brothers. What other coach has ever brought top 100 talent to OSU, sons or otherwise? They were here, played all four years, and poured everything they had into it. What more can you ask for out of a recruit/player?
As someone said earlier, OSU is a great place to go to school, spend your 3-5 years, and grow as a person as well as a player. What it is not, is attractive to the top 20-30 players in the country who are looking to spend 2 terms in school before jumping to the NBA. OSU will NEVER attract one and done talent (which is most of the 5 star talent everyone seems to want). It just won't happen. You can't compare recruiting in MBB and football to any other sport because they simply are entirely different beasts than the minor sports.
High profile recruits in both sports will always choose the program that gives them the most exposure for the next level (Duke, UNC, UA, Kansas, etc.). The NCAA/NBA allowing one and dones forces a program like OSU to find guys that want to commit to a program or school that they plan on being at for 3+ years, guys that want to be here for the right reasons and who are a great fit for the program the coaching staff wants to build.
Obviously I want OSU to be successful, I wanted us to land Gregg, and I do think that WT and co. have their flaws with recruiting. At the same time however, we have to realize that unfortunately we are not in a place as a program where we can demand top notch recruits year in and year out. I happen to like a lot of the guys that this staff has brought in the last two classes. I think there are some good pieces in there that can contribute and lead to some better basketball than a lot of people are expecting this upcoming season (if a season happens). Rankings aren't everything. If this staff finds the right fit of guys that want to be here I don't see any reason they can't be successful.
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