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Post by gnawitall on May 5, 2016 9:26:15 GMT -8
I don't totally disagree with you but following your logic, if Rueck stays here for 20 years and continues to be successful than IMO 'he may' create an atmosphere like Tom Osborn did at Nebraska. I believe that's why Riley can recruit better there; tradition laid down by Osborn. It will be very interesting to see how OSU's baseball program will fare after Casey is gone. Ultimately I believe national powers can maintain recruiting success based on their established success(with location and population playing a big part as well) like Texas, USC, LSU etc... Oregon State needs a personality to drive it's recruiting success in every sport and when that person leaves chances are so will the attraction to the school. A great example stated earlier was how OSU football was right at the top for three years in football with chances to win the Pac and our recruiting didn't follow suit. To me it was Riley getting as far as he could at OSU. We need a Tom Osborn to make that next step IMO. Interesting topic. It's been years, but I used to enjoy Lincoln. Seems to me I read an article back in the 80's in the midst of decades of floundering (I think this was around the time the state lotto was looking at adding the sports games) that brought up Devaney crediting the rise of Nebraska football to a sympathetic Governor that directed state funds that direction, not coaching personalities. well, they have dropped off a lot since Osborn left so maybe he was responsible for keeping them in the top ten annually? |
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Post by beavdowg on May 5, 2016 10:19:42 GMT -8
Gnaw,
I liked Riley as a person and, no doubt, he did for OSU what many couldn't before. He's a good coach, for sure. I've always said, and I only say this again in response to your reply to my post, I never thought Riley was a very good recruiter. As someone else said on here somewhere recently, he was lazy when it came to recruiting. That and the inherent challenges to recruit to OSU are a bad combo. Again, I believe those challenges can be overcome with a combo or belief, passion, energy, quality coaching, and certainly some subsequent success is imperative. You made a good point when you brought up OSU baseball. I had forgotten about it, but, yes, Casey, gets more or less, anyone he wants to come play baseball in Corvallis. So, yet another example. In baseball's case, I think that's an endorsement for how winning can do wonders, and exactly my point. It's the same town, same campus that Rueck and Casey are recruiting to. I believe Rueck's classes will only continue to rise as he continues to win and pile up Pac-12 championships, oh, and Final Fours!!!
Go Beavs!
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Post by orangeexpress on May 16, 2016 21:36:54 GMT -8
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Post by freddiekruger on May 17, 2016 16:42:47 GMT -8
Looks like her high school basketball coach is making a slimy recruiting deal to get hired as an assistant at Washington according to some Cal Bears. He is catching a lot of backlash from Cal fans still butt hurt over losing a player from their local area. They are worried about a California connection to the dawgs.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on May 18, 2016 21:16:47 GMT -8
At least it's becoming more clear why she 'waited to decide' (cough cough)
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Post by beavs6 on May 19, 2016 7:24:00 GMT -8
At least it's becoming more clear why she 'waited to decide' (cough cough) No kidding. At least she is learning the "Art of Negotiating" at a young age. Get a scholarship for friend...check. Set up brother with an opportunity...check. Obtain a position for favorite coach...check. THEN sign LOI...?(How comical if she signs with an institution other than uo or uw. She could be the next mega-business mogul.) |
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Post by baseba1111 on May 19, 2016 9:14:49 GMT -8
At least it's becoming more clear why she 'waited to decide' (cough cough) No kidding. At least she is learning the "Art of Negotiating" at a young age. Get a scholarship for friend...check. Set up brother with an opportunity...check. Obtain a position for favorite coach...check. THEN sign LOI...?(How comical if she signs with an institution other than uo or uw. She could be the next mega-business mogul.) Or college version of Todd Marinovich! |
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Post by jdogge on May 19, 2016 12:57:14 GMT -8
My suggestion? She's made her decision -- right or wrong, good or bad. But it was her decision. We should respect it and move on.
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Post by baseba1111 on May 19, 2016 13:13:33 GMT -8
My suggestion? She's made her decision -- right or wrong, good or bad. But it was her decision. We should respect it and move on. Actually we don's HAVE to respect it. Her choice, her consequence. But, we don't have to agree or respect another's decision just because they made them. I'm betting you can start listing hundreds of athletic, personal, political, family, etc decisions you did not respect. Anyway you slice it, the public persona she has created is not favorable and is fully in the public eye to be commented on. You can clearly see why she did not "fit" SR's culture and if I'm a betting man, the staff is a little relieved she's is elsewhere as all this comes to light. |
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Post by jdogge on May 19, 2016 14:08:47 GMT -8
My suggestion? She's made her decision -- right or wrong, good or bad. But it was her decision. We should respect it and move on. Actually we don's HAVE to respect it. Her choice, her consequence. But, we don't have to agree or respect another's decision just because they made them. I'm betting you can start listing hundreds of athletic, personal, political, family, etc decisions you did not respect. Anyway you slice it, the public persona she has created is not favorable and is fully in the public eye to be commented on. You can clearly see why she did not "fit" SR's culture and if I'm a betting man, the staff is a little relieved she's is elsewhere as all this comes to light. I understand where you might not respect another's decision. But, I respect others' decisions where it is in their self interest and isn't intended to hurt another person. This falls in that category. She made the decision, she has to live with the consequences. I have a lot better things to do that try to be her parent. |
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on May 20, 2016 22:19:43 GMT -8
My suggestion? She's made her decision -- right or wrong, good or bad. But it was her decision. We should respect it and move on. I guess respect isn't earned in your world. |
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Post by jdogge on May 21, 2016 0:37:03 GMT -8
My suggestion? She's made her decision -- right or wrong, good or bad. But it was her decision. We should respect it and move on. I guess respect isn't earned in your world. So anyone who decides not to play for OSU hasn't earned our respect? |
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Post by beavadelic on May 21, 2016 8:54:54 GMT -8
I guess respect isn't earned in your world. So anyone who decides not to play for OSU hasn't earned our respect? I feel like the issue is less that of respecting this young woman, and more an annoyance with the soap opera-esque way that she's approached this process. It has felt like an "As the Basketball Turns" marathon. Drama is annoying anyway, but if you you are one of the jilted suitors, it's much worse. I'm done with the speculation about her, and will be happy when we move on from this topic. I know, I don't have to read about it or enter in, but I like to read everything on Beaver boards so I do it in spite of how old and tired this issue is for me! |
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Post by jdogge on May 21, 2016 9:17:44 GMT -8
So anyone who decides not to play for OSU hasn't earned our respect? I feel like the issue is less that of respecting this young woman, and more an annoyance with the soap opera-esque way that she's approached this process. It has felt like an "As the Basketball Turns" marathon. Drama is annoying anyway, but if you you are one of the jilted suitors, it's much worse. I'm done with the speculation about her, and will be happy when we move on from this topic. I know, I don't have to read about it or enter in, but I like to read everything on Beaver boards so I do it in spite of how old and tired this issue is for me! Yeah, I got that. She was childish and immature. She's 17. What do people expect? I find it interesting that posters NEVER seem to have problems with the boys taking it down to the wire and openly misleading our coaches -- enjoying the attention. But, man, a girl does it and we have a thread about it which, seemingly, goes on forever. It's time for us to move on. |
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Post by freddiekruger on May 31, 2016 11:40:57 GMT -8
I feel like the issue is less that of respecting this young woman, and more an annoyance with the soap opera-esque way that she's approached this process. It has felt like an "As the Basketball Turns" marathon. Drama is annoying anyway, but if you you are one of the jilted suitors, it's much worse. I'm done with the speculation about her, and will be happy when we move on from this topic. I know, I don't have to read about it or enter in, but I like to read everything on Beaver boards so I do it in spite of how old and tired this issue is for me! Yeah, I got that. She was childish and immature. She's 17. What do people expect? I find it interesting that posters NEVER seem to have problems with the boys taking it down to the wire and openly misleading our coaches -- enjoying the attention. But, man, a girl does it and we have a thread about it which, seemingly, goes on forever. It's time for us to move on. I think her high school basketball coach has a lot to do with it dragging out for some odd reason and since she is abnormally close to him he has a big influence in calling the shots. So where are the parents in all of this? That part is strange because what can be gained dragging it out? |
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