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Post by fridaynightlights on Aug 9, 2020 12:12:50 GMT -8
I thought when he left OSU early he was making a mistake. I was wrong. The past 4 games with the Spurs he is averaging around 20 minutes a game. Good for him. No reason he can't have a long career in the NBA if he so desires.
There is a new way of thinking by many of todays players. It used to be that it was pretty much universally accepted that the best way to develop your game was in college. That is no longer the case, many players now believe the best way for them to develop is to get to the professional game and develop your game while getting paid and being able to work on your game full time without the distraction of school or NCAA restrictions on how much you can get coached. Of course staying in school can still be a good option for some, depends on your goals and values, school is not for everyone.
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Post by skyrider on Aug 9, 2020 12:30:21 GMT -8
Excellent observations!
The mystery to me is why Coach Tinkle is not better at developing and utilizing the offensive capabilities of his "bigs". Drew has improved his offense (and overall game)tremendously since leaving OSU. Coach Tinkle seemed to almost refuse use him as an offensive weapon!
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Post by fridaynightlights on Aug 9, 2020 12:48:34 GMT -8
Like others, I am concerned about the direction of the program. The 4 best players in the Tinkle era have been the Thompson brothers, TT and Eubanks. Only one of them is left and this is probably the least talented roster WT has had at OSU. There is a thread on the women's board about which if more valuable, coaching or recruiting, it is hard to quantify but as they say "recruiting is the life blood" of a program. I was very disappointed to see Gregg say that OSU led at one time but then lost contact with him and now appear to be out of it. If this was the case that is incompetence IMO. 6 years into a coaches tenure the program should not be trending downward.
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Post by Judge Smails on Aug 9, 2020 16:27:00 GMT -8
Excellent observations! The mystery to me is why Coach Tinkle is not better at developing and utilizing the offensive capabilities of his "bigs". Drew has improved his offense (and overall game)tremendously since leaving OSU. Coach Tinkle seemed to almost refuse use him as an offensive weapon! I’m torn on Tinkle, but Drew did not start playing until HS. It was going to take him time to develop. He did not have much of an offensive skill set here. It’s hard to go to him when a dunk is the only move he has. He started to improve here, but he left early and never really developed a consistent jump shot.
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Post by beaverboilermaker on Aug 10, 2020 11:09:07 GMT -8
Like others, I am concerned about the direction of the program. The 4 best players in the Tinkle era have been the Thompson brothers, TT and Eubanks. Only one of them is left and this is probably the least talented roster WT has had at OSU. There is a thread on the women's board about which if more valuable, coaching or recruiting, it is hard to quantify but as they say "recruiting is the life blood" of a program. I was very disappointed to see Gregg say that OSU led at one time but then lost contact with him and now appear to be out of it. If this was the case that is incompetence IMO. 6 years into a coaches tenure the program should not be trending downward. I was also disappointed to read that about Gregg. Whether there was a reason to back off, or if our staff was just asleep at the wheel with Covid, it makes no sense to me at all. Only disagree with your 4-best list. It must include GPII, who signed and played his 2 years under WT. But you’re right that the recruiting optics are not going the right direction.
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 10, 2020 11:14:37 GMT -8
Like others, I am concerned about the direction of the program. The 4 best players in the Tinkle era have been the Thompson brothers, TT and Eubanks. Only one of them is left and this is probably the least talented roster WT has had at OSU. There is a thread on the women's board about which if more valuable, coaching or recruiting, it is hard to quantify but as they say "recruiting is the life blood" of a program. I was very disappointed to see Gregg say that OSU led at one time but then lost contact with him and now appear to be out of it. If this was the case that is incompetence IMO. 6 years into a coaches tenure the program should not be trending downward. I was also disappointed to read that about Gregg. Whether there was a reason to back off, or if our staff was just asleep at the wheel with Covid, it makes no sense to me at all. Only disagree with your 4-best list. It must include GPII, who signed and played his 2 years under WT. But you’re right that the recruiting optics are not going the right direction. I recently read an article that says that is absolutely not the case and that OSU is very much in the running for Gregg. Might have been Daschel.
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Post by blackbug on Aug 10, 2020 12:23:21 GMT -8
I was also disappointed to read that about Gregg. Whether there was a reason to back off, or if our staff was just asleep at the wheel with Covid, it makes no sense to me at all. Only disagree with your 4-best list. It must include GPII, who signed and played his 2 years under WT. But you’re right that the recruiting optics are not going the right direction. I recently read an article that says that is absolutely not the case and that OSU is very much in the running for Gregg. Might have been Daschel. This is found on Kerry Eggers blog site.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 10, 2020 12:29:34 GMT -8
I was also disappointed to read that about Gregg. Whether there was a reason to back off, or if our staff was just asleep at the wheel with Covid, it makes no sense to me at all. Only disagree with your 4-best list. It must include GPII, who signed and played his 2 years under WT. But you’re right that the recruiting optics are not going the right direction. I recently read an article that says that is absolutely not the case and that OSU is very much in the running for Gregg. Might have been Daschel. The article that I saw that said OSU had dropped off because of a lack of communication was written by Nemic on July 30th. It'd be cool if Gregg was having fun giving Nemic misleading info (not sure that is the case)...Nemic has a huge pro-duck bias.
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Post by fridaynightlights on Aug 10, 2020 13:08:30 GMT -8
Like most people Nemic is interested in advancing his career. Most of what he does is report on the local college football recruiting scene and if were honest there is allot more big recruiting news going on with Oregon than Oregon State these days. Eggers is a great source for OSU sports, but I would guess his men's basketball sources are people close to or within the program, and I am not sure I trust their objectivity.
Concerning Gregg I hope he comes to OSU. But unless he was totally misquoted it didn't sound good. The guy who does hoops recruiting on the 24/7 Arizona board who seems pretty tuned into AZ basketball recruiting has said it is probably down to AZ and UO. I don't want to get my hopes up only to be disappointed. Gregg and Bittle are probably deciding in the next month, so we will find out soon enough.
Here are quotes from about a week ago from the Arizona site moderator...
"It's between Oregon and Arizona right now I believe, Arizona absolutely feels it is right there"
"Virginia is doing a nice job with him, but my guess is still Arizona and Oregon."
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Aug 10, 2020 21:21:39 GMT -8
I recently read an article that says that is absolutely not the case and that OSU is very much in the running for Gregg. Might have been Daschel. The article that I saw that said OSU had dropped off because of a lack of communication was written by Nemic on July 30th. It'd be cool if Gregg was having fun giving Nemic misleading info (not sure that is the case)...Nemic has a huge pro-duck bias. I've been told that the quote in the Nemec article was a misinterpretation and that Gregg actually reached out to WT to tell him that is not what he said. I tend to believe what I hear from this guy as he is fairly close to the program. He seems to think that if Gregg doesn't come here it will be for the right reasons and that he thinks it would be for the "right reasons". Seemed confident that OSU was still a top target because Gonzaga never offered.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 10, 2020 21:45:02 GMT -8
The article that I saw that said OSU had dropped off because of a lack of communication was written by Nemic on July 30th. It'd be cool if Gregg was having fun giving Nemic misleading info (not sure that is the case)...Nemic has a huge pro-duck bias. I've been told that the quote in the Nemec article was a misinterpretation and that Gregg actually reached out to WT to tell him that is not what he said. I tend to believe what I hear from this guy as he is fairly close to the program. He seems to think that if Gregg doesn't come here it will be for the right reasons and that he thinks it would be for the "right reasons". Seemed confident that OSU was still a top target because Gonzaga never offered. I would think Nemec might tend to misinterpret lots if things in regards to OSU. His writing seems to indicate that.
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Post by fridaynightlights on Aug 13, 2020 13:12:33 GMT -8
Gregg is announcing his choice on September 9th.
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Post by EOBeav on Aug 16, 2020 12:12:25 GMT -8
Like others, I am concerned about the direction of the program. The 4 best players in the Tinkle era have been the Thompson brothers, TT and Eubanks. Only one of them is left and this is probably the least talented roster WT has had at OSU. There is a thread on the women's board about which if more valuable, coaching or recruiting, it is hard to quantify but as they say "recruiting is the life blood" of a program. I was very disappointed to see Gregg say that OSU led at one time but then lost contact with him and now appear to be out of it. If this was the case that is incompetence IMO. 6 years into a coaches tenure the program should not be trending downward. Careful. I was told that 6 years into his tenure wasn't enough time to evaluate his effectiveness. 🙄
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Post by beaverbeliever on Aug 16, 2020 13:15:59 GMT -8
The bubble situation definitely worked out well for Drew - Lamarcus being injured and missing the whole thing freed up a lot of valuable minutes.
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