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Post by fridaynightlights on Jul 22, 2020 14:46:33 GMT -8
I knew we were not in it for Bittle, but it is disappointing but not necessary surprising not to be a serious player for Gregg. BittleGregg |
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Post by ochobeavo on Jul 23, 2020 15:52:25 GMT -8
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Post by fridaynightlights on Jul 23, 2020 18:01:38 GMT -8
Here it is from July 21st on the Arizona 24/7 site
Name: Ben Gregg
Position: Power forward
High School: Clackamas (Ore.)
Ranking: Four-star; 61st overall, 15th power forward, 2nd in Oregon
Offers: Arizona, Oregon, Oregon State, California, Texas, Texas Tech, USC, Virginia Tech, Washington State
Scouting Report: "Gregg’s two biggest strengths are quite clear – he is a very good shooter and passer," 247Sports National Recruiting Analyst Josh Gershon writes. "The four-star prospect has a smooth stroke and is a consistent shooter off the catch from the perimeter, which is a huge weapon given his size.
"He also can put the ball on the ground well for his size and once he does, he is especially efficient at hitting one or two dribble pull-ups. Gregg has also made progress finishing off the dribble with both hands and posting up.
"Gregg’s vision is outstanding and he does a very good job finding cutters from the perimeter; he puts a lot of pressure on the defense with his ability to both shoot and pass.
"While Gregg can play either the three or four on offense, finding a true position to defend and improving his consistent production defensively will be key areas of his development moving forward."
Recruitment: Gregg claims he is focusing on a variety of schools, but it would be a surprise if he does not choose either Arizona or Oregon. The Ducks have the location advantage and Gregg has also been working out with former Duck Payton Pritchard and former Oregon State Beaver Tres Tinkle.
Arizona assistant Danny Peters has done a nice job here and the Wildcats are being aggressive. It won't be easy, but it also makes sense not to write off the Wildcats because Arizona is putting forward a strong pitch.
He said it: "“I’ve talked to my parents about this and I’m not totally sure when I’ll make that decision. I’m not going to wait longer than I need to, but I need to find a school that is the best for me for the next four years and where it can set a path for me into sports in my post career.”
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Post by ochobeavo on Jul 30, 2020 17:49:18 GMT -8
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Post by fridaynightlights on Jul 30, 2020 18:22:55 GMT -8
Stunning. No wonder recruiting has been so poor under WT. So your the leader for one of the top players in the state and you stopped talking to him?!?! What a joke! |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Sept 9, 2020 11:51:29 GMT -8
Gregg to Gonzaga. Not a surprise. link |
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Post by ocbeav on Sept 9, 2020 12:08:23 GMT -8
WBB is able to bring in one or 2 5 star every year, why not men. WT is not able to and seat getting hot.
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Post by nabeav on Sept 9, 2020 12:57:56 GMT -8
WBB is able to bring in one or 2 5 star every year, why not men. WT is not able to and seat getting hot. Well, Rueck wasn't able to keep Cameron Brink in state, does he get dinged for that? |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 9, 2020 14:39:57 GMT -8
WBB is able to bring in one or 2 5 star every year, why not men. WT is not able to and seat getting hot. Despite the disaster of LaVonda's last year or two, Scott inherited a relatively successful program Women's program that had gone to the WNIT 6 times in the previous decade leading to his hire. He didn't have to overcome 3 decades of futility. Women's basketball and men's basketball are two different animals. For that matter 17 year old women and 17 year old men are two completely different animals and the motivations of the athletes are not the same, at least not ten years ago when Scott showed up. There are generally around 25-30-ish 5 star recruits men's basketball every year, expecting any team that has had the 24/25 year stretch that OSU had before Wayne got here to be able to land 1-2 5 star recruits every year is expecting a lot. |
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Post by nabeav on Sept 9, 2020 15:45:28 GMT -8
Also, 5 star men's players are looking for a place to play for six months, not five years. Very different dynamic, and I think Corvallis and Oregon State definitely appeal those looking for the latter.
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Post by beaversproud on Sept 17, 2020 11:02:07 GMT -8
Also, 5 star men's players are looking for a place to play for six months, not five years. Very different dynamic, and I think Corvallis and Oregon State definitely appeal those looking for the latter. Is there 1 and done talk around Greg and Bittle? I believe lack of ability to recruit has been a recurring theme on these boards as a chief complaint. Maybe it's the coaches, the facilities, the town.. dunno... just a strong theme |
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Post by nabeav on Sept 21, 2020 14:10:56 GMT -8
Also, 5 star men's players are looking for a place to play for six months, not five years. Very different dynamic, and I think Corvallis and Oregon State definitely appeal those looking for the latter. Is there 1 and done talk around Greg and Bittle? I believe lack of ability to recruit has been a recurring theme on these boards as a chief complaint. Maybe it's the coaches, the facilities, the town.. dunno... just a strong theme 15 of the 28 5* players in the 2019 class have declared for the 2020 NBA draft 25 of the 29 5* players in the 2018 class are either already in the NBA or have declared for the 2020 NBA draft. Only one of those 29 is still at the school he committed to after two seasons, and he broke his leg during the 2019-20 season which probably affected his decision. If there's not one and done talk about Bittle, there will be. Gregg is a little further down the list as a 4* (#59 in the country). 2015 #59 Bennie Boatwright stayed 4 years at USC and went undrafted. Signed in the G League 2016 #59 Braxton Key played 2 years at Alabama before transferring to Virginia for his final two seasons 2017 #59 Davion Mitchell played one year at Auburn before transferring to Baylor 2018 #59 Jerome Hunter redshirted after an injury at Indiana and played 14.4 MPG as a freshman 2019 #59 Max Agbonkpolo played 7.8 MPG as a freshman at USC |
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Post by mbabeav on Sept 21, 2020 15:15:37 GMT -8
Is there 1 and done talk around Greg and Bittle? I believe lack of ability to recruit has been a recurring theme on these boards as a chief complaint. Maybe it's the coaches, the facilities, the town.. dunno... just a strong theme 15 of the 28 5* players in the 2019 class have declared for the 2020 NBA draft 25 of the 29 5* players in the 2018 class are either already in the NBA or have declared for the 2020 NBA draft. Only one of those 29 is still at the school he committed to after two seasons, and he broke his leg during the 2019-20 season which probably affected his decision. If there's not one and done talk about Bittle, there will be. Gregg is a little further down the list as a 4* (#59 in the country). 2015 #59 Bennie Boatwright stayed 4 years at USC and went undrafted. Signed in the G League 2016 #59 Braxton Key played 2 years at Alabama before transferring to Virginia for his final two seasons 2017 #59 Davion Mitchell played one year at Auburn before transferring to Baylor 2018 #59 Jerome Hunter redshirted after an injury at Indiana and played 14.4 MPG as a freshman 2019 #59 Max Agbonkpolo played 7.8 MPG as a freshman at USC Ok all you basketball prodigious prodigies, please note. To make the NBA, it's really hard to sneak up on teams. You have to be awesome most of the time. The #10 guy on an NBA bench can usually wax anyone not in the top 10 at their position coming out of high school. At least in football you have the special teams side and they know physically 99.9% of high school seniors can't match up against guys 4 years older. Baseball has expectations that you will need a few years even out of college ball unless you are a Nick, Michael or Jacoby talent. But you can get lost awful fast if you aren't one of the top 30 or so "amature" players in the nation in a given year. Perennially D league material. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 21, 2020 16:22:16 GMT -8
15 of the 28 5* players in the 2019 class have declared for the 2020 NBA draft 25 of the 29 5* players in the 2018 class are either already in the NBA or have declared for the 2020 NBA draft. Only one of those 29 is still at the school he committed to after two seasons, and he broke his leg during the 2019-20 season which probably affected his decision. If there's not one and done talk about Bittle, there will be. Gregg is a little further down the list as a 4* (#59 in the country). 2015 #59 Bennie Boatwright stayed 4 years at USC and went undrafted. Signed in the G League 2016 #59 Braxton Key played 2 years at Alabama before transferring to Virginia for his final two seasons 2017 #59 Davion Mitchell played one year at Auburn before transferring to Baylor 2018 #59 Jerome Hunter redshirted after an injury at Indiana and played 14.4 MPG as a freshman 2019 #59 Max Agbonkpolo played 7.8 MPG as a freshman at USC Ok all you basketball prodigious prodigies, please note. To make the NBA, it's really hard to sneak up on teams. You have to be awesome most of the time. The #10 guy on an NBA bench can usually wax anyone not in the top 10 at their position coming out of high school. At least in football you have the special teams side and they know physically 99.9% of high school seniors can't match up against guys 4 years older. Baseball has expectations that you will need a few years even out of college ball unless you are a Nick, Michael or Jacoby talent. But you can get lost awful fast if you aren't one of the top 30 or so "amature" players in the nation in a given year. Perennially D league material. On the whole baseball issue, it really can't be compared to the other two sports because every year baseball drafts hundreds of high school players. In essence, how many of the "5 star" players actually see a day of college? My guess is unless they actually want to go to college, they're signing. As least with baseball players, when it comes to college choice, academics/community/school quality counts at least as much as glitz with a lot of the kids because they are actually interested in going to school for at least some period of time. |
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