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Post by irimi on Jun 22, 2020 5:49:58 GMT -8
Looks like politics is fair game on the boards now or am I misinterpreting some of the posts? If so it gonna get ugly in here real, real quick. So each year it seems politics is creeping into the sports world on boards and at games. Raise your hand if you just want one area of your life where you can enjoy something without the political ping pong. Because folks it is split right down the middle. Cant you all get along? The rise in political posts, I think, has to do more with the fact that we have little to no sports to discuss. That and the fact that the cause of no sports is the virus, which has been politicized for some reason. Since you can’t talk about the possibility of a football season without talking about COVID, politics comes into play. It really sucks. Believe it or not, I, too, would like to see no politics on this board, especially when COVID has passed. I have learned my lesson. |
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Post by lotrader on Jun 22, 2020 6:23:51 GMT -8
Tin foil hat, pandemic, plandemic...people, this is all designed to divide us. Don't fall into the trap. Rise above. Respect each other. There should be no issue holding your view, while someone holds a completely different (perhaps opposite) view. It doesn't have to divide. And it doesn't have to be a political football.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Jun 22, 2020 9:14:52 GMT -8
With 50 votes in, 58% of the respondents to this poll have indicated that they believe that college sports will be played this fall despite the recent spike in COVID-19 cases reported nationwide.
There are significant financial considerations for college sports programs that will require football to be played this fall or certain other sports and associated jobs will be axed. All efforts will be made to play college football in the fall unless the virus numbers and infected athletes won't allow for it.
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Post by ag87 on Jun 22, 2020 10:53:23 GMT -8
I voted yes (Will there be football in the fall) but that may be based more on hope than reality.
There was one item I read that was extremely confusing to me and I dont remember if it was a football team (maybe Clemson) or on of the MLB camps. But it said they were testing players once a week. If I remember correctly and the information was true, this is just plain stupid. They need to be testing players probably every day and at a minimum three times a week. You want to find one or two cases and not 40% of the team. Waiting a week increases the likelihood of a big percentage of a team. I don't know the lag between becoming infected and a test showing positive but I don't think it is a long time. If we want football in the fall the teams need to go to the mat on keeping players healthy. For OSU, because we are on a quarter system, it's a little easier. We can keep the players mostly isolated until around September 20.
Extrapolating I hope OSU tests all students a lot - maybe three times a week. I don't know the cost of a test. For regular students in addition to athletes, if they do not get tested, the testing needs to come to them. There needs to be a working database and if student #34567pos doesnt get tested for something like three consecutive days, someone needs to be knocking on his or her door.
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Post by atownbeaver on Jun 22, 2020 11:51:31 GMT -8
With 50 votes in, 58% of the respondents to this poll have indicated that they believe that college sports will be played this fall despite the recent spike in COVID-19 cases reported nationwide. There are significant financial considerations for college sports programs that will require football to be played this fall or certain other sports and associated jobs will be axed. All efforts will be made to play college football in the fall unless the virus numbers and infected athletes won't allow for it. This is all you probably need to know, to know why football is likely being played. Billions upon billions of it when you combine all levels of college and NFL. Just count on greatly reduced fan attendance... I would be stunned beyond belief if the NCAA fully cancelled the season. Particularly when so much of America has universally decided that the collateral damage of COVID is socially acceptable. |
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Post by sparty on Jun 23, 2020 11:52:38 GMT -8
Looks like politics is fair game on the boards now or am I misinterpreting some of the posts? If so it gonna get ugly in here real, real quick. So each year it seems politics is creeping into the sports world on boards and at games. Raise your hand if you just want one area of your life where you can enjoy something without the political ping pong. Because folks it is split right down the middle. Cant you all get along? There is a poll about adding a politics board. You should vote. Excellent idea if the rules are strictly enforced on other boards. Everyone knows anything COVID will ire both sides. To think there are not two opposing thoughts on COVID is not listening to the news. |
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Post by OSUprof on Jun 23, 2020 13:51:29 GMT -8
A down vote button might be helpful - the opposite of the current thumbs up. With that option, one can just register their disagreement or dislike of a post without a thread-cluttering reply or ensuing fight.
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 23, 2020 15:10:18 GMT -8
A down vote button might be helpful - the opposite of the current thumbs up. With that option, one can just register their disagreement or dislike of a post without a thread-cluttering reply or ensuing fight. Unfortunately the Pro-boards plug in for "thumbs down" isn't viable anymore. Maybe when they finally get their new board software up and running we'll be able to add a thumbs down or dislike. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 23, 2020 18:59:43 GMT -8
No mask required outdoors if you can distance 6 feet or more. That's not my understanding. There was no "if" caveat. It was simply, required anytime outside the home. This is new. TheGlove is right. Check it out.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jun 23, 2020 20:22:04 GMT -8
That's not my understanding. There was no "if" caveat. It was simply, required anytime outside the home. This is new. TheGlove is right. Check it out.
Thanks. The announcement I saw conveniently left out several pertinent details. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 23, 2020 20:59:48 GMT -8
I'm just going to leave this right here. So she says that it won't filter out the bad stuff but it won't let oxygen get in either. Hmmm. Let's see. O2 is pretty dang small. Yet your common influenza causing virus is much larger. Hmmm.
I'll leave this here. A real study.
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 23, 2020 21:53:04 GMT -8
TheGlove is right. Check it out.
Thanks. The announcement I saw conveniently left out several pertinent details. always go to the source |
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Post by northvalleybeaver on Jun 24, 2020 11:07:10 GMT -8
Just a recent update by Jake Weber from mauldineconomics.com. Jake writes for Jon Mauldin on his free newsletter concerning up to date news on bio tech. The major news deals with ability of modern technology and artificial intelligence to use virus RNA and DNA instead of using the traditional fore mat. Using the new technology, 2 companies have sequenced vaccines for the corona virus in less than 3 hours. Inovio Pharmaceuticals used a DNA based vaccine that started clinical trials in April. Moderna was actually faster starting clinical trials than INO because they used a RNA based vaccine that started clinical trials in March. MRNA hopes to have phase 3 trials done by late July to mid August and approval immediately. INO hopes to have there approval sometime in late August. The timing on all this is the question mark as the FDA has never even looked at viral DNA or RNA vaccines before. If approval is quick mass production will explode to meet demand. Please be aware there are over 12 bio tech firms working on this issue and they could all potentially be approved. If that happens there will be vaccines galore. Bio tech in the next 10 years will make more progress than in the last 50 years. Hope the update gives you an idea of what some firms are doing. GO BEAVS!!!
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Post by atownbeaver on Jun 24, 2020 11:30:23 GMT -8
Just a recent update by Jake Weber from mauldineconomics.com. Jake writes for Jon Mauldin on his free newsletter concerning up to date news on bio tech. The major news deals with ability of modern technology and artificial intelligence to use virus RNA and DNA instead of using the traditional fore mat. Using the new technology, 2 companies have sequenced vaccines for the corona virus in less than 3 hours. Inovio Pharmaceuticals used a DNA based vaccine that started clinical trials in April. Moderna was actually faster starting clinical trials than INO because they used a RNA based vaccine that started clinical trials in March. MRNA hopes to have phase 3 trials done by late July to mid August and approval immediately. INO hopes to have there approval sometime in late August. The timing on all this is the question mark as the FDA has never even looked at viral DNA or RNA vaccines before. If approval is quick mass production will explode to meet demand. Please be aware there are over 12 bio tech firms working on this issue and they could all potentially be approved. If that happens there will be vaccines galore. Bio tech in the next 10 years will make more progress than in the last 50 years. Hope the update gives you an idea of what some firms are doing. GO BEAVS!!! There are more like 100 of them... Something to appreciate in this dark time is how humankind. how people across the globe have thrown so much into finding a cure. It is absolutely unprecedented in scope, in funding, in resources deployed. Never in our entire history have we see a race to solve a problem of this magnitude. Really does go to show, despite it all, people can and do rise up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 11:44:34 GMT -8
Just a recent update by Jake Weber from mauldineconomics.com. Jake writes for Jon Mauldin on his free newsletter concerning up to date news on bio tech. The major news deals with ability of modern technology and artificial intelligence to use virus RNA and DNA instead of using the traditional fore mat. Using the new technology, 2 companies have sequenced vaccines for the corona virus in less than 3 hours. Inovio Pharmaceuticals used a DNA based vaccine that started clinical trials in April. Moderna was actually faster starting clinical trials than INO because they used a RNA based vaccine that started clinical trials in March. MRNA hopes to have phase 3 trials done by late July to mid August and approval immediately. INO hopes to have there approval sometime in late August. The timing on all this is the question mark as the FDA has never even looked at viral DNA or RNA vaccines before. If approval is quick mass production will explode to meet demand. Please be aware there are over 12 bio tech firms working on this issue and they could all potentially be approved. If that happens there will be vaccines galore. Bio tech in the next 10 years will make more progress than in the last 50 years. Hope the update gives you an idea of what some firms are doing. GO BEAVS!!! So I looked up "phase 3 trial" to see if that concluded the process. It does not. From Wikipedia: Phase Three Trials
Similarly, phase three trials continue to monitor toxicity, immunogenicity, and SAEs on a much larger scale. The vaccine must be shown to be safe and effective in natural disease conditions before being submitted for approval and then general production. In the United States, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is responsible for approving vaccines. Phase Four Trials
Phase four trials are typically monitor stages that collect information continuously on vaccine usage, adverse effects, and long-term immunity. And this: Phase IV
A Phase IV trial is also known as postmarketing surveillance trial, or informally as a confirmatory trial. Phase IV trials involve the safety surveillance (pharmacovigilance) and ongoing technical support of a drug after it receives permission to be sold (e.g. after approval under the FDA Accelerated Approval Program). Phase IV studies may be required by regulatory authorities or may be undertaken by the sponsoring company for competitive (finding a new market for the drug) or other reasons (for example, the drug may not have been tested for interactions with other drugs, or on certain population groups such as pregnant women, who are unlikely to subject themselves to trials). The safety surveillance is designed to detect any rare or long-term adverse effects over a much larger patient population and longer time period than was possible during the Phase I-III clinical trials. Harmful effects discovered by Phase IV trials may result in a drug being no longer sold, or restricted to certain uses; recent examples involve cerivastatin (brand names Baycol and Lipobay), troglitazone (Rezulin) and rofecoxib (Vioxx). The minimum time period mandatory for Phase IV clinical trials is 2 years. So apparently after Phase 3, it needs FDA approval. I don't know if it can then be immediately distributed for widespread use during "safety surveillance". We can hope that the critical need for a COVID vaccine along with great results from a Phase 3 trial will result in quick FDA approval and allow them to expedite widespread distribution in time for fall sports, but I have no clue. |
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