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Post by jdogge on Apr 5, 2016 16:31:17 GMT -8
In that case, he should not have batted the next inning. Help me understand...in which case? If you are referring to the pitcher getting K in the book, I do not think you are correct. For example a pitcher throws a third strike and the ball is not possessed cleanly by the catcher. The batter safely makes it to first base. The pitcher gets a K, an error (or PB) is logged and the runner advances to first safely (Reached on error) Same scenario here, the batter is still not "out" (tagged or forced) so he would lead off the next inning, the batters AB is not completed. Did he make it to first before the third out was recorded? If yes, then he is a baserunner and cannot lead off the next inning. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 5, 2016 16:33:04 GMT -8
Amazing the nonsense that followed my simple thread post. I was merely trying to show my appreciation for MP after listening to him interview Rowe, Nickerson and Gunderson while painting the picture of a tight OSU UW game In my mind he is an exceptionally talented broadcaster I stand by that. Not sure why anyone would take offense to that simple statement. Go Beavers! No offense and respect your opinion... just do not share your high regard and think OSU could do better as we move into a new era. And, "no"... I do not have any possible candidates. LOL I very much enjoy his work. I've listened to countless sports broadcasters. I would rate him among the very best. I'm not an expert, merely a knowledgable fan/consumer. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 5, 2016 20:52:26 GMT -8
No offense and respect your opinion... just do not share your high regard and think OSU could do better as we move into a new era. And, "no"... I do not have any possible candidates. LOL I very much enjoy his work. I've listened to countless sports broadcasters. I would rate him among the very best. I'm not an expert, merely a knowledgable fan/consumer. I will say for 80-90% of his work I don't mind him. But, sometimes his "stories"/intellectual "babble" is forced. But my biggest issue with MP is his anger/temper. It has not gotten better since his "fall". You can be an absolute "homer" and love OSU without the totally unprofessional displays. If you are just a listener you miss a lot of his antics. It can be down right embarrassing that he represents OSU at times. He is a great guy on the "side" I've been around him a fair amount... including a long post game at Wingers in Moscow. I know a lot of people write off his displays as his loyalty/love of OSU, but he is a professional announcer first, fan 2nd. |
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Post by justdamwin on Apr 6, 2016 8:27:46 GMT -8
Help me understand...in which case? If you are referring to the pitcher getting K in the book, I do not think you are correct. For example a pitcher throws a third strike and the ball is not possessed cleanly by the catcher. The batter safely makes it to first base. The pitcher gets a K, an error (or PB) is logged and the runner advances to first safely (Reached on error) Same scenario here, the batter is still not "out" (tagged or forced) so he would lead off the next inning, the batters AB is not completed. Did he make it to first before the third out was recorded? If yes, then he is a baserunner and cannot lead off the next inning. Batter did not make it to first, in fact barely made a move to leave the box. He did not retreat to dugout so was still alive as a batter. The AB had not ended, that's my understanding. |
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Post by justdamwin on Apr 6, 2016 8:28:22 GMT -8
Did he make it to first before the third out was recorded? If yes, then he is a baserunner and cannot lead off the next inning. Batter did not make it to first, in fact barely made a move to leave the box. He did not retreat to dugout so was still alive as a batter. The AB had not ended, that's my understanding. Have you diverted this thread away from the spewing that was happening enough? |
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 6, 2016 8:34:51 GMT -8
Did he make it to first before the third out was recorded? If yes, then he is a baserunner and cannot lead off the next inning. Batter did not make it to first, in fact barely made a move to leave the box. He did not retreat to dugout so was still alive as a batter. The AB had not ended, that's my understanding. I was not there, but nothing was said on TV about PC having a discussion previous to the batter leading off the next inning, or after he reached. So, I trust all was legit/discussed or PC would have let it be known. Having coached for a long time I can't ever remember that particular situation occurring. I would have actually protested a batter out of order after he had reached to lead off the inning... surmising a dropped third with a man on 1st was a "force" not a steal, and similar to a FC the batter turned runner did indeed have a complete AB whether he actually reaches 1B or not. Not having it happen, and knowing HS umpires I probably win and gives me a lead off out. However, in HS or AAA Legion I doubt I or another coach would have sent the batter up to lead off??? LOL |
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Post by goline on Apr 6, 2016 9:55:33 GMT -8
i'm a huge fan of Mike's. glad he's a beaver. hope he's our announcer for years and years to come.
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Post by jdogge on Apr 6, 2016 10:39:36 GMT -8
Did he make it to first before the third out was recorded? If yes, then he is a baserunner and cannot lead off the next inning. Batter did not make it to first, in fact barely made a move to leave the box. He did not retreat to dugout so was still alive as a batter. The AB had not ended, that's my understanding. Ok, then he leads off the next inning. |
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