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Post by beaversproud on Jan 31, 2020 9:43:06 GMT -8
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Post by shelby on Jan 31, 2020 19:03:25 GMT -8
Larry keeps, or washes the meager ROI for the PAC 12 that he underwhelmed us with . He acts like he is running a bowling alley !
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 1, 2020 19:04:27 GMT -8
The Pac-12 distributed $31.3 million to Oregon State, which is nothing to sneeze at. Alabama and A&M only made $11.8 million more than Oregon State. |
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Post by beaversproud on Feb 4, 2020 19:54:26 GMT -8
The Pac-12 distributed $31.3 million to Oregon State, which is nothing to sneeze at. Alabama and A&M only made $11.8 million more than Oregon State. Lol only 11.8 million |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 5, 2020 14:03:35 GMT -8
The Pac-12 distributed $31.3 million to Oregon State, which is nothing to sneeze at. Alabama and A&M only made $11.8 million more than Oregon State. Lol only 11.8 million In 2017-18, A&M made $212,399,426 compared to Oregon State's $80,712,000. $11.8 million is less than 6% of A&M's $212,399,426 rake. Take away that $11.8 million A&M and give it to Oregon State, A&M still has more than double the income of Oregon State. In 2017-18, Bama made $177,481,937. $11.8 million is less than 7% of that. Of the public schools, if Oregon State got $11.8 million extra, they would pass Georgia Tech, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, North Carolina State, and Kansas State in revenue. And that all brings me back to the point of my post, which is threefold: First, in real life, $11.8 million is a stupid amount of money, and $11.8 million/year is even more astounding. However, in big picture athletic department terms, $11.8 million is a drop in the bucket. Second, everyone is freaking about the $11.8 million disparity between the Pac-12 and SEC, when there are much bigger reasons why Oregon State is not competing monetarily with a bunch of other schools. And third, take a step back, man. Can you believe that little old Oregon State is only $11.8 million away from making Alabama and A&M-type money from the conference? The Oregons, UCLAs, and Washingtons of the world might be right to be livid that the conference is not doing better. But what exactly does Oregon State bring to the college landscape that entitles any of us to be irate about "only" making a lousy $31.3 million? I dunno. I believe that there are much better things to worry about. |
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Post by shelby on Feb 5, 2020 18:59:28 GMT -8
So, I am assuming equal split . The SEC, with 14 teams, gets more than the PAC 12 with 12 .
Additionally, the SEC routinely gets better playoff positions, and more teams in every post season event. The bias creates better financial splits for that Conference !
I could be mistaken on Distribution.
However, whenever there are issues in anything - sports, politics, etc ,.. follow the money !
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Post by fishwrapper on Feb 6, 2020 22:48:01 GMT -8
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Post by beaversproud on Feb 7, 2020 9:01:48 GMT -8
In 2017-18, A&M made $212,399,426 compared to Oregon State's $80,712,000. $11.8 million is less than 6% of A&M's $212,399,426 rake. Take away that $11.8 million A&M and give it to Oregon State, A&M still has more than double the income of Oregon State. In 2017-18, Bama made $177,481,937. $11.8 million is less than 7% of that. Of the public schools, if Oregon State got $11.8 million extra, they would pass Georgia Tech, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, North Carolina State, and Kansas State in revenue. And that all brings me back to the point of my post, which is threefold: First, in real life, $11.8 million is a stupid amount of money, and $11.8 million/year is even more astounding. However, in big picture athletic department terms, $11.8 million is a drop in the bucket. Second, everyone is freaking about the $11.8 million disparity between the Pac-12 and SEC, when there are much bigger reasons why Oregon State is not competing monetarily with a bunch of other schools. And third, take a step back, man. Can you believe that little old Oregon State is only $11.8 million away from making Alabama and A&M-type money from the conference? The Oregons, UCLAs, and Washingtons of the world might be right to be livid that the conference is not doing better. But what exactly does Oregon State bring to the college landscape that entitles any of us to be irate about "only" making a lousy $31.3 million? I dunno. I believe that there are much better things to worry about. You know, I wasn't going to respond... but why not. You're kidding me right? even if you distributed it to the sports, thus muddling the money amount. Each sport would get almost a million. You mean to tell me the sports couldn't use that extra million bucks or 700 grand in their budgets? How ignorant are you? Or, lets say they keep it in one chunk. Athletics is an arms race of sorts... could imagine a good loan to build new facilities... and here's where you tell me OSU facilities are fine... and this is where the rest of the message board scoffs at your response. What about Branding? or updating facilities if you don't want to build new ones, hire more staff, idk... there are A LOT of ways to use 11 MILLION DOLLARS. I can't believe how ignorant your response was. Every bit of money counts every dollar. s%#t, you remember when the economy tanked and some universities (see Georgia) were in the red bad? Their athletics dept gave money back to the University because it had a surplus. Bet it would be nice for athletics to give back here at OSU....... whats more to worry about champ? Money helps fix a lot of problems. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 7, 2020 13:23:58 GMT -8
In 2017-18, A&M made $212,399,426 compared to Oregon State's $80,712,000. $11.8 million is less than 6% of A&M's $212,399,426 rake. Take away that $11.8 million A&M and give it to Oregon State, A&M still has more than double the income of Oregon State. In 2017-18, Bama made $177,481,937. $11.8 million is less than 7% of that. Of the public schools, if Oregon State got $11.8 million extra, they would pass Georgia Tech, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, North Carolina State, and Kansas State in revenue. And that all brings me back to the point of my post, which is threefold: First, in real life, $11.8 million is a stupid amount of money, and $11.8 million/year is even more astounding. However, in big picture athletic department terms, $11.8 million is a drop in the bucket. Second, everyone is freaking about the $11.8 million disparity between the Pac-12 and SEC, when there are much bigger reasons why Oregon State is not competing monetarily with a bunch of other schools. And third, take a step back, man. Can you believe that little old Oregon State is only $11.8 million away from making Alabama and A&M-type money from the conference? The Oregons, UCLAs, and Washingtons of the world might be right to be livid that the conference is not doing better. But what exactly does Oregon State bring to the college landscape that entitles any of us to be irate about "only" making a lousy $31.3 million? I dunno. I believe that there are much better things to worry about. You know, I wasn't going to respond... but why not. You're kidding me right? even if you distributed it to the sports, thus muddling the money amount. Each sport would get almost a million. You mean to tell me the sports couldn't use that extra million bucks or 700 grand in their budgets? How ignorant are you? Or, lets say they keep it in one chunk. Athletics is an arms race of sorts... could imagine a good loan to build new facilities... and here's where you tell me OSU facilities are fine... and this is where the rest of the message board scoffs at your response. What about Branding? or updating facilities if you don't want to build new ones, hire more staff, idk... there are A LOT of ways to use 11 MILLION DOLLARS. I can't believe how ignorant your response was. Every bit of money counts every dollar. s%#t, you remember when the economy tanked and some universities (see Georgia) were in the red bad? Their athletics dept gave money back to the University because it had a surplus. Bet it would be nice for athletics to give back here at OSU....... whats more to worry about champ? Money helps fix a lot of problems. You have resorted to ad hominem attacks, which means that you have officially lost the argument. You have now completely abandoned your primary post and have taken up a non sequitur argument. You then make a straw man's argument and call me ignorant in the process. Breathe, my friend. Your first post was about comparisons between conferences. My point is that every public SEC team makes more than Oregon State, and, even if you give the Beavers SEC money and give the SEC teams Pac-12 money, that does not change. You have ignored the point of my previous posts. Now, to quote myself from my last post, "in real life, $11.8 million is a stupid amount of money, and $11.8 million/year is even more astounding." You somehow muddled what I said into something that you could refute and refuted it. But, stepping back, you do realize that your post just proved my statement, correct? $11.8 million/year is an astounding amount of money. If you take that $11.8 million and divide it amongst the 17 varsity sports, each sport gets an additional $694,117.64/yr. That would make a big difference in the smaller sports. However, in realty, most of that would probably be eaten up by shoring up the budget and debt servicing. Y'know, doing the things that the athletic department should already be doing, but is currently fiscally unable to. You are probably looking looking at around $3.9 million/yr. of actual extra liquid revenue at the end of the day, which is still a lot of money. If you divide that among the 17 varsity programs, you wind up with $230,098.23/yr. per program. Perhaps, we should re-set this whole discussion, because it is drifting from your primary post point. The average public Pac-12 university spends $17.1 million/yr. more than Oregon State on all sports. Oregon State is unable to spend as much on facilities, recruiting, and coaches as the majority of schools in the Pac-12. If the Pac-12 makes more money, that does not change. Oregon State is still 10th-11th in funding in the Pac-12 for most sports. And even if Oregon State made an additional $11.8 million/yr. and the other Pac-12 universities did not, the Beavers would still be in the bottom half of the conference in funding. My point is that $11.8 million would not turn Oregon State into a Maryland or Virginia Tech or even a Rutgers. It would be nice to be closer to that realm, and the varsity programs could really use that money, but $11.8 million just does not move the needle that much from a 30,000 foot perspective. |
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