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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 30, 2019 13:30:22 GMT -8
Really hard to keep the mental edge when you are dominating and clearly superior to your opponent. OSU was never dominating ND until late. This game was 7-10 points most of the way.
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Post by mbabeav on Dec 30, 2019 16:13:29 GMT -8
Really hard to keep the mental edge when you are dominating and clearly superior to your opponent. OSU was never dominating ND until late. This game was 7-10 points most of the way. We played 2nd string much of the first half, when our #1's almost disappeared. And sitting there (in the student section reliving 38 year old memories), for the life of me I couldn't figure out if it was a football game ND was playing or hockey - the officials seemed to have the attitude that Oregon State was supposed to win, so ND needed something in the way of an advantage to get anything. Offensively, I have no idea where Hollins or Reichle have gone - they just kept passing the ball even when they had the open shot. They show a whole lotta hustle otherwise but that leaves the "big three" getting the majority of the defenders, often 4 on 3. And KK has to play angry - if not angry, at least with the same attitude he started the season with. Lastly, drop Tres down to off guard, and put KK, Silva and Dastrup in - even if only for a few minutes. If a team isn't shooting well from the outside, they sure aren't going inside against that group.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 30, 2019 16:51:13 GMT -8
OSU was never dominating ND until late. This game was 7-10 points most of the way. We played 2nd string much of the first half, when our #1's almost disappeared. And sitting there (in the student section reliving 38 year old memories), for the life of me I couldn't figure out if it was a football game ND was playing or hockey - the officials seemed to have the attitude that Oregon State was supposed to win, so ND needed something in the way of an advantage to get anything. Offensively, I have no idea where Hollins or Reichle have gone - they just kept passing the ball even when they had the open shot. They show a whole lotta hustle otherwise but that leaves the "big three" getting the majority of the defenders, often 4 on 3. And KK has to play angry - if not angry, at least with the same attitude he started the season with. Lastly, drop Tres down to off guard, and put KK, Silva and Dastrup in - even if only for a few minutes. If a team isn't shooting well from the outside, they sure aren't going inside against that group. No matter how people want to look at it, this team is not deep with any sort of talent to sustain a Pac12 top 4-5 finish. We'll see, but after this many recruiting classes I expected far more. After seeing the recruits I can't figure why Franklin is a RS? Is it an academic thing? Because he certainly has to be better than some of what I've seen off the bench. The problem with both Silva and Dastrup... they simply can't guard anyone out of 3 feet from the hoop. Both are extremely slow and barely leave the floor. At least Silva has a pretty release that is tough to defend, but his range is about 3 feet and he's no Steve Johnson in terms of footwork. The guards off the bench are basically zero as far as an offensive threat and we are basically playing 3 on 5 with any combo of reserves/starters. And, one seems to have been relegated deep to bench these days!? Lucas is streaky and seems to be a one trick pony as I've not seen him use his dribble to do anything but go laterally. But, again he seems able to defend guards, but no way can you play him vs anyone that can post up. SMM is active, but provides no real offense other than an rare off board... and is not able to guard, especially bigger bodies. It'll be interesting. But if this team can't get at least a split in the mountains it's going to be a tough season. Get swept the first two, I'm seeing like a 5-6/4-7 start. If this turns into a "let's get TT his records" type of thing I'll puke. And, ET... son, you are in no way an NBA player at this point of your career.
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Post by grad1973 on Jan 1, 2020 5:13:06 GMT -8
Coach just can't recruit in a legit point guard. Speed wise Ethan is a three, Tinkle can't recruit to this level. Nice coach son experiment but we need to move on. Hurting his overall chance at success this season sticking with his present starting line up. That line can't defend properly. If look to the future and put that kid freshman at point from montgomery, Coaches sticking With Ethan will stall his Team progress in half court against most Pac teams with superior players. Tough sledding ahead wasted recruits who can't fill for him, move on beaver nation.
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Post by jefframp on Jan 1, 2020 7:19:41 GMT -8
Coach just can't recruit in a legit point guard. Speed wise Ethan is a three, Tinkle can't recruit to this level. Nice coach son experiment but we need to move on. Hurting his overall chance at success this season sticking with his present starting line up. That line can't defend properly. If look to the future and put that kid freshman at point from montgomery, Coaches sticking With Ethan will stall his Team progress in half court against most Pac teams with superior players. Tough sledding ahead wasted recruits who can't fill for him, move on beaver nation. Are you sure you are a grad or did you just get up too early this morning? LOL
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Post by obf on Jan 2, 2020 10:55:25 GMT -8
Every time I complain about Alfred Hollins, he seems to have a good game the next time out so.... here we go For the life of me I DO NOT understand why WT keeps trying to get something out of AH as a starter. 19 wasted minutes, 6 missed shots that should have gone to someone else. And DO NOT say he brings good defense or rebounding. For a "superior athlete" AH plays matador defense and is VERY easily blocked out or distracted during rebounding. Every once in a while his athleticism will allow him to RECOVER from his poor defense and make something happen, but that is still bad process good result, and a wise coach wouldn't be tricked by it. Both SMM and Lucas deserve more time and could easily slot into the starting lineup in AH's place, or as someone said above, lets let an actual point guard play PG (Hunt or Vernon would be fine) move ET to 2, ZR to 3. Seriously, AH still being anything more than "bench energy guy" at this point is the cherry on top of the "why WT is not a very good coach" sundae, smh. P.S. I had to take an EXTENDED break from MBB after that putrid, awful, disgusting, kick to the man region second half at TAMU, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BEAVS, DON'T MAKE ME TAKE THE REST OF THE SEASON OFF AS WELL!!!! We need AT LEAST a split this weekend. And competitive ball regardless.
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Post by TheGlove on Jan 2, 2020 11:24:51 GMT -8
Every time I complain about Alfred Hollins, he seems to have a good game the next time out so.... here we go For the life of me I DO NOT understand why WT keeps trying to get something out of AH as a starter. 19 wasted minutes, 6 missed shots that should have gone to someone else. And DO NOT say he brings good defense or rebounding. For a "superior athlete" AH plays matador defense and is VERY easily blocked out or distracted during rebounding. Every once in a while his athleticism will allow him to RECOVER from his poor defense and make something happen, but that is still bad process good result, and a wise coach wouldn't be tricked by it. Both SMM and Lucas deserve more time and could easily slot into the starting lineup in AH's place, or as someone said above, lets let an actual point guard play PG (Hunt or Vernon would be fine) move ET to 2, ZR to 3. Seriously, AH still being anything more than "bench energy guy" at this point is the cherry on top of the "why WT is not a very good coach" sundae, smh. P.S. I had to take an EXTENDED break from MBB after that putrid, awful, disgusting, kick to the man region second half at TAMU, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BEAVS, DON'T MAKE ME TAKE THE REST OF THE SEASON OFF AS WELL!!!! We need AT LEAST a split this weekend. And competitive ball regardless. I wish I could like this post more than once.
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Post by obf on Jan 2, 2020 11:27:35 GMT -8
Every time I complain about Alfred Hollins, he seems to have a good game the next time out so.... here we go For the life of me I DO NOT understand why WT keeps trying to get something out of AH as a starter. 19 wasted minutes, 6 missed shots that should have gone to someone else. And DO NOT say he brings good defense or rebounding. For a "superior athlete" AH plays matador defense and is VERY easily blocked out or distracted during rebounding. Every once in a while his athleticism will allow him to RECOVER from his poor defense and make something happen, but that is still bad process good result, and a wise coach wouldn't be tricked by it. Both SMM and Lucas deserve more time and could easily slot into the starting lineup in AH's place, or as someone said above, lets let an actual point guard play PG (Hunt or Vernon would be fine) move ET to 2, ZR to 3. Seriously, AH still being anything more than "bench energy guy" at this point is the cherry on top of the "why WT is not a very good coach" sundae, smh. P.S. I had to take an EXTENDED break from MBB after that putrid, awful, disgusting, kick to the man region second half at TAMU, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BEAVS, DON'T MAKE ME TAKE THE REST OF THE SEASON OFF AS WELL!!!! We need AT LEAST a split this weekend. And competitive ball regardless. I wish I could like this post more than once. Feel free to make a TheGlove2 account and give it a second like. You could just say it is your son
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