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Post by beaverwbb fan on Aug 20, 2019 12:02:34 GMT -8
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Post by nwhoopfan on Aug 20, 2019 13:06:04 GMT -8
It would be nice if the NCAA was consistent, but we all know they aren't. Still gives some hope for another year of eligibility for Kat.
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Post by lotrader on Aug 20, 2019 13:20:31 GMT -8
Didn't Kat's & Daneesha's ACL injury happen the same week? Gives me hope that Kat Tudor will also get another year of eligibility!
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Post by 411500 on Aug 20, 2019 13:40:04 GMT -8
I'd be curious to learn if the NCAA provides reasons (explanations) for their decisions when they grant extended eligibility... Or do they simply say: "Granted." "Not granted."
I also do not know if things are done on a case by case basis....Or if one needs unusual circumstances to be considered on an individual basis.... Anyone have any experience with this? GO BEAVS !!
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Post by nwhoopfan on Aug 20, 2019 14:23:10 GMT -8
I don't think the NCAA likes to give reasons/explanations for any of their decisions. They certainly don't in the case of whether transfers are deemed immediately eligible or not. The NCAA and transparency do not go hand in hand.
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Post by shelby on Aug 20, 2019 14:28:30 GMT -8
Kate is also a ‘sixth man’ , coming off the bench, so her minutes in each game are also more limited than a starter. She deserves the same consideration as the Utah player. In this case, a fifth year of eligibility.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Aug 20, 2019 14:50:43 GMT -8
This is more or less the bad news of it:
“She was awarded an additional season based on limited competition in two of her four seasons along with extenuating circumstances beyond her control.“
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Post by shelby on Aug 20, 2019 15:42:52 GMT -8
If OSU was smart, I believe the same case can be made for Kat. I am just not convinced that our AD is ‘smart’. I am talking about the Athletic Department as a whole. If it is in the athletes best interest, they should be prepared and ready to fight for her, or any other athlete that deserves such consideration. If it takes lawyers, battle tested compliance officers, or whatever.... just do it.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Aug 20, 2019 16:00:24 GMT -8
So she played part of her first season and then chose to transfer mid season. Had to sit out and redshirt her second year. Played in most if not all the games in years three and four. She was injured after 13 games in her fifth year.
So for the two seasons she only played part of, one was because of injury. I can understand that one. The other season she only played part of was a personal choice, she could have remained if I understand it correctly. By this logic, yes I know the ncaa has no logic, Kat should get an exception as well.
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Post by sparty on Aug 20, 2019 16:16:27 GMT -8
So she played part of her first season and then chose to transfer mid season. Had to sit out and redshirt her second year. Played in most if not all the games in years three and four. She was injured after 13 games in her fifth year. So for the two seasons she only played part of, one was because of injury. I can understand that one. The other season she only played part of was a personal choice, she could have remained if I understand it correctly. By this logic, yes I know the ncaa has no logic, Kat should get an exception as well. What is the thinking in regards Sedona Prince at tsdtr?
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Post by 411500 on Aug 20, 2019 16:36:00 GMT -8
beaverwbb posted: “She was awarded an additional season based on limited competition in two of her four seasons along with extenuating circumstances beyond her control.“
So, based on this, the NCAA does provide something along the lines reasons and explanation for their decisions...Whether they do it in every case I have no clue. ----- As for Sedona Prince - I presume that a decision should be coming in the next while about her immediate eligibility. GO BEAVS !!
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Post by bvrbooster on Aug 20, 2019 19:22:46 GMT -8
I don't know anything about this either, but I'm guessing the NCAA won't make a decision on Kat until after this season, for which she is obviously eligible. Anybody know anything about that?
Also, if she's not ready to play until after the first of the year, perhaps that 2 partial years thing would bode well for her as well?
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Post by rmancarl on Aug 20, 2019 19:53:48 GMT -8
A couple notes. First, this is good news for Utah. Provo is a good player.
The differences between her situation, and Kat's, are similar, yet there are differences. The fact that Provo is being granted a SIXTH year, and Kat is only trying to get a fifth, is positive, even though Provo sat out one entire year. Maybe the negative part for Kat is that with Provo playing this year, it will basically make 4 full seasons of play for her (3 full seasons, plus 2 half seasons). If Kat is granted another year, she would have 4 full years, plus 1 half year, which the NCAA may not want to grant, being it would be more than 4 seasons total.
Tudor had surgery in July of 2018 on her hand, which the Beavs are including in Kat's case to show that she was limited in fall camp last season and possibly into the early non-conference season.
I also think that since Kat should be playing this season (barring complications or additional injuries), the decision on her eligibility may very well not be made until after this season.
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Post by willtalk on Aug 20, 2019 21:18:13 GMT -8
Logically, I would think if Kat misses enough early games this season it should compensate for her going over the limit last season. It would mean that she would not be getting more than four complete seasons, if they are all compiled together. If Oregon St is smart they will hold her out at least enough early games to compensate for the number she went over last season. That would push numbers in her favor.
It is doubtful that she would be a hundred percent at the start anyway. Better she hits the floor a 100 percent than just being eased in a little at a time. Even if she could contribute shooting 3's which she certainly could do at less than 100 %, her defense and offensive mobility would still not be up to her usual standards. Lateral movement is the last thing to come back with her type of injury.
The first three games are will not be that difficult and missing those games might compensate enough in the committee's eyes to negate 3 games last season putting her at ten games played. They could easily throw in the next game as well making the odds even better. She more than likely will not be totally back till the second half of the season even in the best-case scenario.
It is really important for Kat to have a complete last season devoid of injury effects. With her quick release and defensive capabilities, she would be a desirable asset to certain WNBA teams. Wing shooters are always in demand especially if they are not defensive liabilities. Weise is starting for the Sparks, not based entirely on her offense, but her consistency on defense. Kat still needs to work on her in place handle, as opposed to her attack mode. Having played exclusively on the wing for most of her basketball career, she should still have a big upside in that area. She needs that extra year to gain experience in that area.
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Post by sparty on Aug 21, 2019 5:54:29 GMT -8
Logically, I would think if Kat misses enough early games this season it should compensate for her going over the limit last season. It would mean that she would not be getting more than four complete seasons, if they are all compiled together. If Oregon St is smart they will hold her out at least enough early games to compensate for the number she went over last season. That would push numbers in her favor. It is doubtful that she would be a hundred percent at the start anyway. Better she hits the floor a 100 percent than just being eased in a little at a time. Even if she could contribute shooting 3's which she certainly could do at less than 100 %, her defense and offensive mobility would still not be up to her usual standards. Lateral movement is the last thing to come back with her type of injury. The first three games are will not be that difficult and missing those games might compensate enough in the committee's eyes to negate 3 games last season putting her at ten games played. They could easily throw in the next game as well making the odds even better. She more than likely will not be totally back till the second half of the season even in the best-case scenario. It is really important for Kat to have a complete last season devoid of injury effects. With her quick release and defensive capabilities, she would be a desirable asset to certain WNBA teams. Wing shooters are always in demand especially if they are not defensive liabilities. Weise is starting for the Sparks, not based entirely on her offense, but her consistency on defense. Kat still needs to work on her in place handle, as opposed to her attack mode. Having played exclusively on the wing for most of her basketball career, she should still have a big upside in that area. She needs that extra year to gain experience in that area. Sounds good on paper and I get what your saying but I don't think it works quite that way.
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