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Post by biggieorange on Jun 25, 2019 10:27:35 GMT -8
And...you didn't even mention CJ. CJ is probably the best player in that entire draft not named Giannis. The 2006 Roy and Aldridge draft is completely underrated. They got the only 2 guys worth having. Bargnani, Adam Morrison, Tyrus Thomas, Sheldon Williams, Randy Foye. Rudy Gay (nice long career), Patrick O'Bryant and Mouhamed Sene round out the top 10. Yeah I agree, look at what the old Blazer GM Kevin Pritchard is doing in Indiana these days once the Vulcan groups ego was damaged by Pritchard's star.
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Post by qbeaver on Jun 25, 2019 15:55:47 GMT -8
In a couple years,high school kids will be allowed to enter the NBA draft again. Hopefully by then,the NBA will have a better minor league system for players who need more seasoning before they are ready for the league,at a pay that isn't out of whack for players who haven't proven anything yet.
Some kids have no interest in attending college and just want to have an opportunity to start their career and get payed. Some don't value an education,and think of college as a waste of time beyond their NBA careers. Very short sighted imo. It's all or nothing imo...too bad.
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Post by bennyskid on Jun 25, 2019 18:40:16 GMT -8
I don't understand why no one is suggesting that the NBA follow MLB's lead. Let them be eligible out of HS, but if they go the college route they can't be drafted for three years. And allow them to return for their senior season if they aren't drafted. It's better for the elite players - no more going through the motions with the one-and-done. It's better for the mid-rank players, who don't have to make any sort of commitment at the end of each season. College coaches could go back to developing players, knowing that they have them for at least three years. And the college game would improve significantly.
It's simple and proven. So why isn't anyone even talking about it?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 25, 2019 19:24:22 GMT -8
I don't understand why no one is suggesting that the NBA follow MLB's lead. Let them be eligible out of HS, but if they go the college route they can't be drafted for three years. And allow them to return for their senior season if they aren't drafted. It's better for the elite players - no more going through the motions with the one-and-done. It's better for the mid-rank players, who don't have to make any sort of commitment at the end of each season. College coaches could go back to developing players, knowing that they have them for at least three years. And the college game would improve significantly. It's simple and proven. So why isn't anyone even talking about it? First off, all drafts are inherently stupid and unfair. The only free market system in the socialist countries of Europe is in sports, and the largest socialist system in the greatest free market country in the world is the NFL/NBA/MLB monopoly and NCAA draft system. Free up professional sports from the monopolies! Let the market take care of this! Having said the foregoing, the whole point about creating the one-and-done system was to create more interest in new NBA players and to make sure that the NBA created a system to ensure that players would be emotionally mature enough to represent the NBA. Allowing a duel system guts the whole reason for creating the one-and-done system. Unlike the NFL, there is no three-year post high school rule. And unlike MLB, there is no extensive minor league system. Since we are having a discussion about the regressive and unfair NBA monopoly and NBA draft system, the NBA should make it two years and be more like the NFL. If they were going to do something like the MLB, they could require new draftees, who are not at least three years out of high school, to spend at least a year in the D-League. They could do that. However, why pay those players in the D-League, when they could just let colleges pay those players through scholarships? That is an inferior system to the NFL system. They know it. But they have to renegotiate it with the Players Union. Of course, this all assumes that the NBA cares one iota bout college players or colleges, which is dubious at best.
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Post by beaverstever on Jun 25, 2019 21:24:08 GMT -8
Not surprising, but it didn't go particularly well for the Pac12 and was absolutely brutal for the 3 duck kids. Bol 2 was once thought to be a lock for the lottery, falls all the way to 44. Endless shots of "last kid in the green room" - looked like he was going to cry at one point. King and Wooten go undrafted - looks like they got some really bad advice. ASU's Luguentz Dort also went undrafted which was a mild surprise. A lot of mocks had him late 1st round. Others of note: Thybulle first P12 guy off the board, goes #20, Kevin Porter Jr/USC goes #30, KZ Okpala of Stanford goes #32, Jaylen Nowell of UW goes #45, Jaylen Hands from UCLA goes #56. Thybulle being first guy out of the Pac-12 is stunning to me. If GPII can't get past a cup of coffee in the league, I can't see how Thybulle does. Porter was rumored early to be a potential lottery pick by the media ... I wasn't seeing it, and turns out the league wasn't either. I'd guess that Jalen Hands is the member of this group that has the game that translates the best to the NBA.
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 26, 2019 6:30:16 GMT -8
Not surprising, but it didn't go particularly well for the Pac12 and was absolutely brutal for the 3 duck kids. Bol 2 was once thought to be a lock for the lottery, falls all the way to 44. Endless shots of "last kid in the green room" - looked like he was going to cry at one point. King and Wooten go undrafted - looks like they got some really bad advice. ASU's Luguentz Dort also went undrafted which was a mild surprise. A lot of mocks had him late 1st round. Others of note: Thybulle first P12 guy off the board, goes #20, Kevin Porter Jr/USC goes #30, KZ Okpala of Stanford goes #32, Jaylen Nowell of UW goes #45, Jaylen Hands from UCLA goes #56. Thybulle being first guy out of the Pac-12 is stunning to me. If GPII can't get past a cup of coffee in the league, I can't see how Thybulle does. Porter was rumored early to be a potential lottery pick by the media ... I wasn't seeing it, and turns out the league wasn't either. I'd guess that Jalen Hands is the member of this group that has the game that translates the best to the NBA. Thybulle + Ben Simmons on the floor at the same time for Philly will be pretty ugly - at least on offense.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 26, 2019 7:04:42 GMT -8
Thybulle being first guy out of the Pac-12 is stunning to me. If GPII can't get past a cup of coffee in the league, I can't see how Thybulle does. Porter was rumored early to be a potential lottery pick by the media ... I wasn't seeing it, and turns out the league wasn't either. I'd guess that Jalen Hands is the member of this group that has the game that translates the best to the NBA. Thybulle + Ben Simmons on the floor at the same time for Philly will be pretty ugly - at least on offense. Thybulle is a much better shooter than Simmons. He just didn't take a lot of shots. He's a better shooter than GPII also and that is why he is getting a shot. While Thybulle didn't shoot great from 3 pt land last year, he did the two prior years.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jun 26, 2019 12:48:31 GMT -8
Thybulle + Ben Simmons on the floor at the same time for Philly will be pretty ugly - at least on offense. Thybulle is a much better shooter than Simmons. He just didn't take a lot of shots. He's a better shooter than GPII also and that is why he is getting a shot. While Thybulle didn't shoot great from 3 pt land last year, he did the two prior years. Don't forget that Thybulle was also the 5th best athlete in the conference this year according to the PAC. Even better than lowly #9 Adley
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 26, 2019 22:03:52 GMT -8
Thybulle is a much better shooter than Simmons. He just didn't take a lot of shots. He's a better shooter than GPII also and that is why he is getting a shot. While Thybulle didn't shoot great from 3 pt land last year, he did the two prior years. Don't forget that Thybulle was also the 5th best athlete in the conference this year according to the PAC. Even better than lowly #9 Adley Yeah... because the "so called" 9th best athlete in a conference of full of superb athletes is "lowly"?! And... PS... Thybulle is a sensational athlete. Hitting a baseball or shooting a basketball is a "skill", elite athleticism is different.
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Post by ee1990 on Jul 22, 2019 21:46:21 GMT -8
I personally hate Bol Bol's game. A 7-2 kid with a big wingspan shooting three pointers? I may be old school,but it takes away his biggest asset...his length and wingspan for rebounds and tips being 25 feet from the hoop...not to mention having foot issues . I would do a big pass on drafting him. His game is awesome but otherwise, I agree. 7'3 dudes with foot issues at 19? lol. Good luck with that.
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