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Post by believeinthebeavs on Jan 18, 2019 20:39:34 GMT -8
GO BEAVS!!!!!
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Post by beavadelic on Jan 18, 2019 20:55:20 GMT -8
Nice run... 37-28 at half. Good basketball game. And, we started to go inside, 5-5 from 2 since 2-12 start. I'm old school and many Destiny "fans" on here, but too much "mustard on the dog" most of the time for my taste. Keep the game simple, no need for much of her histrionics. For example great passers adapt to others not the other way around and they don't blame others for being in the wrong spot. Tonight two blatantly bad to's. On the 2nd she was blaming/correcting Maddie to the huddle, in the huddle, after time out on the bench. When she reentered again out of control and... pulled. Maybe best part of Scott, he runs the show without being negative. Destiny sat the rest of the 2nd quarter... maybe last 6 min? Not trying to bash on you at all, baseball, but I’ve sensed that you aren’t much of a fan of hers from the beginning. Everyone is entitled to their preferences. It seems like for such a dynamic player, Destiny gets more criticism than most. She can do things nobody else on our roster can do, and it’s been my observation that the majority of players who are at a different level physically do tend to turn it over more because they can do more and aren’t afraid to take risks. She’s not perfect, but she brings a lot to the table, is a great leader, and is a quality leader. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 18, 2019 21:03:52 GMT -8
Destiny has the second-best A/TO ratio on the team, by a wide margin. Goodman's is better, but I don't think she sees the court quite as well as Slocum and certainly can't match her moves to the hoop.
I'm glad we have both.
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Post by greshambeaver on Jan 18, 2019 21:07:23 GMT -8
Totally agree with Beavadelic... besides the fact that she is a true point. Gary Payton types don't come along much and neither do Destiny Slocum types
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 18, 2019 21:13:56 GMT -8
Nice run... 37-28 at half. Good basketball game. And, we started to go inside, 5-5 from 2 since 2-12 start. I'm old school and many Destiny "fans" on here, but too much "mustard on the dog" most of the time for my taste. Keep the game simple, no need for much of her histrionics. For example great passers adapt to others not the other way around and they don't blame others for being in the wrong spot. Tonight two blatantly bad to's. On the 2nd she was blaming/correcting Maddie to the huddle, in the huddle, after time out on the bench. When she reentered again out of control and... pulled. Maybe best part of Scott, he runs the show without being negative. Destiny sat the rest of the 2nd quarter... maybe last 6 min? Not trying to bash on you at all, baseball, but I’ve sensed that you aren’t much of a fan of hers from the beginning. Everyone is entitled to their preferences. It seems like for such a dynamic player, Destiny gets more criticism than most. She can do things nobody else on our roster can do, and it’s been my observation that the majority of players who are at a different level physically do tend to turn it over more because they can do more and aren’t afraid to take risks. She’s not perfect, but she brings a lot to the table, is a great leader, and is a quality leader. OSU had a season low of 6 turnovers. Destiny had 2. Seems like an odd game for anyone to be complaining about turnovers. Especially when you win by 22 and Destiny scores 24 in 27 minutes.
For comparison's sake, here are Syd Wiese's yearly turnover-per-game averages: FR 2.9 SO 3.1 JR 2.7 SR 3.1
I guess it takes a lot to impress some folks.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 18, 2019 21:53:13 GMT -8
Not trying to bash on you at all, baseball, but I’ve sensed that you aren’t much of a fan of hers from the beginning. Everyone is entitled to their preferences. It seems like for such a dynamic player, Destiny gets more criticism than most. She can do things nobody else on our roster can do, and it’s been my observation that the majority of players who are at a different level physically do tend to turn it over more because they can do more and aren’t afraid to take risks. She’s not perfect, but she brings a lot to the table, is a great leader, and is a quality leader. OSU had a season low of 6 turnovers. Destiny had 2. Seems like an odd game for anyone to be complaining about turnovers. Especially when you win by 22 and Destiny scores 24 in 27 minutes.
For comparison's sake, here are Syd Wiese's yearly turnover-per-game averages: FR 2.9 SO 3.1 JR 2.7 SR 3.1
I guess it takes a lot to impress some folks.
I don't think a lot of posters actually read, or maybe comprehend some posts! Not a fan of histrionics. Destiny is more "show" than I like and is needed. She's very talented and her 2nd half might have been her best this season. As mentioned I liked the message SR sent. And, better yet she got it. She was under control in all phases. Never complained about the # of turnovers or even her play. Her actions towards Maddie and the signs that showed "blame" were not that of a leader. Pivec, Katie, Taya never point out teammates in a negative manner. Again, is it part of why she sat? No idea. Just pointed out an area she needs to mature in. And... as is the case on most message/fan sites... it's my opinion. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 18, 2019 22:29:12 GMT -8
OSU had a season low of 6 turnovers. Destiny had 2. Seems like an odd game for anyone to be complaining about turnovers. Especially when you win by 22 and Destiny scores 24 in 27 minutes.
For comparison's sake, here are Syd Wiese's yearly turnover-per-game averages: FR 2.9 SO 3.1 JR 2.7 SR 3.1
I guess it takes a lot to impress some folks.
I don't think a lot of posters actually read, or maybe comprehend some posts! Not a fan of histrionics. Destiny is more "show" than I like and is needed. She's very talented and her 2nd half might have been her best this season. As mentioned I liked the message SR sent. And, better yet she got it. She was under control in all phases. Never complained about the # of turnovers or even her play. Her actions towards Maddie and the signs that showed "blame" were not that of a leader. Pivec, Katie, Taya never point out teammates in a negative manner. Again, is it part of why she sat? No idea. Just pointed out an area she needs to mature in. And... as is the case on most message/fan sites... it's my opinion. The longer she plays here, the less of the "showboating" we will see, I think. She's learning how to be a leader, which she didn't have to be at Maryland. |
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Post by willtalk on Jan 19, 2019 1:04:42 GMT -8
OSU had a season low of 6 turnovers. Destiny had 2. Seems like an odd game for anyone to be complaining about turnovers. Especially when you win by 22 and Destiny scores 24 in 27 minutes.
For comparison's sake, here are Syd Wiese's yearly turnover-per-game averages: FR 2.9 SO 3.1 JR 2.7 SR 3.1
I guess it takes a lot to impress some folks.
I don't think a lot of posters actually read, or maybe comprehend some posts! Not a fan of histrionics. Destiny is more "show" than I like and is needed. She's very talented and her 2nd half might have been her best this season. As mentioned I liked the message SR sent. And, better yet she got it. She was under control in all phases. Never complained about the # of turnovers or even her play. Her actions towards Maddie and the signs that showed "blame" were not that of a leader. Pivec, Katie, Taya never point out teammates in a negative manner. Again, is it part of why she sat? No idea. Just pointed out an area she needs to mature in. And... as is the case on most message/fan sites... it's my opinion. I understand what you are seeing because I have also observed the same things myself. I was really high on Slocum before she played a minute, because I knew what she brought to the table. However, Scott still needs to keep her on a short leash at this point in time. I personally have always liked pass first point guards. It is a plus to have a point that can score as well, but that type needs to exercise self restraint more than most. The primary role and responsibility of the point is to facilitate the offense. Points that are also offensive threats need to make a real effort to focus on facilitating first. I don't have a problem with her passes, when you anticipate these sorts of things often happen. I also have noticed some things that you might be be referring to about her actions in respect to other teammates. However, we really do not know what is actually transpiring or what is being said. She does have skills, but they just need to be properly channeled for the teams optimum benefit. . In respect to comparing her to Sidney- Wiese was no true point guard. She was an scoring guard playing point. Destiny has the potential to be a very good point once she gets her priorities straight. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 19, 2019 5:21:38 GMT -8
I don't think a lot of posters actually read, or maybe comprehend some posts! Not a fan of histrionics. Destiny is more "show" than I like and is needed. She's very talented and her 2nd half might have been her best this season. As mentioned I liked the message SR sent. And, better yet she got it. She was under control in all phases. Never complained about the # of turnovers or even her play. Her actions towards Maddie and the signs that showed "blame" were not that of a leader. Pivec, Katie, Taya never point out teammates in a negative manner. Again, is it part of why she sat? No idea. Just pointed out an area she needs to mature in. And... as is the case on most message/fan sites... it's my opinion. I understand what you are seeing because I have also observed the same things myself. I was really high on Slocum before she played a minute, because I knew what she brought to the table. However, Scott still needs to keep her on a short leash at this point in time. I personally have always liked pass first point guards. It is a plus to have a point that can score as well, but that type needs to exercise self restraint more than most. The primary role and responsibility of the point is to facilitate the offense. Points that are also offensive threats need to make a real effort to focus on facilitating first. I don't have a problem with her passes, when you anticipate these sorts of things often happen. I also have noticed some things that you might be be referring to about her actions in respect to other teammates. However, we really do not know what is actually transpiring or what is being said. She does have skills, but they just need to be properly channeled for the teams optimum benefit. . In respect to comparing her to Sidney- Wiese was no true point guard. She was an scoring guard playing point. Destiny has the potential to be a very good point once she gets her priorities straight. Syd may not have been a “true point guard” but she played point guard and led OSU teams that won 3 PAC-12 Championships, one PAC-12 tourney Championship, and a Final Four team that ended the season ranked #2 in the coaches poll - the best team in OSU WBB history. www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/rankings/_/year/2016But she she wasn’t a “true point guard” So f-ing what. I hope you and 1111 still managed to enjoy a 22 point win. And that Destiny’s subpar performance didn’t ruin your night 🙄 |
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Post by bmoc on Jan 19, 2019 5:56:21 GMT -8
I really appreciate this blog. Many of you have access to information and the time to ferret out details that I don't have the time to do myself. One of the pitfalls of this form of social media is it's anonymity, which can cause people to be less than civil towards each other. If we were all sitting at a table (without alcohol), our tone of voice and vocabulary might be different than what we type. That being said, I remember sitting in the stands with 500 other fans watching Judy Spoelstra's teams compete. I remember watching Lavonda Wagner scream and belittle her team at any given point during a game. I remember Scott Rueck starting his OSU career with TWO eligible players and having to hold a recruitment "camp" to field a team. What we have is a BLESSING!!!
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Post by lotrader on Jan 19, 2019 7:32:53 GMT -8
Fortunately, I have "blocked" one of the posters on this board, but from reading here, I can surmise that person's view of Destiny Slocum. DS is getting better every game, and, learning how to play in OSU's system. There is a reason Rueck brings DS to the post game pressers (more than any other player). DS is beyond special as a BB player. There isn't a better PG in the country right now. I sit courtside at OSU games, and the speed at which she can play, with the great ball handling, and terrific passing and 3-point shooting is not going on anywhere else I have seen. Not to mention, Destiny is playing terrific defense right now. Rueck is now playing Destiny and Aleah together, which is a match-up nightmare for opposing teams. We are lucky to have this kid at OSU, and, every game, DS is learning and demonstrating that she understands her role on this team.
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Post by rmancarl on Jan 19, 2019 8:38:04 GMT -8
Back to the "game", I thought the Beavs may have played their best game this year last night. Unfortunately, I can't rewatch it to see if I still felt that way after watching it again. I thought Arizona played very well too. They have some good young talent and look to be tough the next couple years. The biggest differences between OSU and Arizona are that the Beavs are more seasoned, better rebounders, and shoot better, but I still thought Arizona played well, and I think we'll still see them get some unexpected wins this year.
Arizona State will be an interesting challenge. They have played everybody tough. They really crash the boards, so that will be a key in this one.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jan 19, 2019 11:28:15 GMT -8
Back to the "game", I thought the Beavs may have played their best game this year last night. Unfortunately, I can't rewatch it to see if I still felt that way after watching it again. I thought Arizona played very well too. They have some good young talent and look to be tough the next couple years. The biggest differences between OSU and Arizona are that the Beavs are more seasoned, better rebounders, and shoot better, but I still thought Arizona played well, and I think we'll still see them get some unexpected wins this year. Arizona State will be an interesting challenge. They have played everybody tough. They really crash the boards, so that will be a key in this one. I too was quite impressed with the strides, year-over-year, that Arizona is making. They are well coached and have some young, up-and-coming talent. Agree that AZ is going to upset someone (or maybe a few someones) this year as the Pac-12 season winds on. I think we are finding our identity as well. I think that DS at point represents us pushing aggressively, and her ball handling has really reduced those couple of back court or "bringing the ball up the court" turnovers that we have been plagued by since SR had Syd and Mik bringing the ball up (though I think Syd could have had fewer if SR hadn't left her alone on an island so much, but that doesn't matter much now.....). Aleah running point is the calming influence, and her chemistry with Jo and Taya is really special. Aleah can anticipate their moves really well. Jo is now actually starting to take a step/dribble or two to get to the basket. With mixed results, mind you, but we were saying that about other things she developed as well, so I am curious to see where she is at with that come March. Taya is just a sophmore coming back from shoulder surgery, and she seems to be well recovered based on last game's evidence. Maddie is the big surprise to me. She is really growing in confidence, and she is turning into one of "glue players" - providing passion and support out there along with scoring and rebounding. She might provide the "Kolbie leap". I hope the steps KTMac took last night (again, she is always the mismatch for us, some days she embraces it, others not so much) are more lasting. SR is clearly bringing Jasmine along, she just needs to get cleaner on the defensive end, the speed and aggression to do damage on offense is obvious. We enter a very interesting stretch of games now, starting with ASU and into our back-to-back dates with the 'ucks. Some separation is occurring in the Pac-12 standings. So far we are still among the elite, but more by figuring out the opposition and finding ways to win than by dominating from start to finish. Fun to watch! Go Beavers! |
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Post by beaveragain on Jan 19, 2019 15:31:01 GMT -8
Destiny in the previous game took three shots and this game she took 17, so she's taking what she feels the team needs her to do to be successful. Seems to me that she's in the bulls-eye on her shot attempts. My only quibble for her game is that she can be too quick on the trigger for some of her three's. But so far as too much mustard, maybe very occasionally at the very beginning of the season, not now. And on yakking at Maddie, that's her job as the PG. Maddie should have gone to the basket and Destiny passed to where she should have been. It's the PG's job to be the couch on the floor and coaches are going to yell at you. Aleah is good during play of directing things, but she needs to be ok with people being grumbly about her bossy comments after play also. It's the PG's curse to not always be lovable.
I was concerned for Katie after she missed a couple of shots at the beginning and then passed up an open 3. But then she made some short jumpers and after the game mentioned that she needs to take more of those shots. To which I screamed YESYESYES inside my head, gave me a headache screaming that loudly inside there.
In general the whole team is playing really good ball. And game by game they keep playing better together.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jan 20, 2019 12:40:24 GMT -8
UO beating them 42-17 with a few minutes left in the 2nd...
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