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Post by blastingsand on Jan 19, 2019 18:30:24 GMT -8
Not the end of the world (or tournament chances). This was bound to be a tough road game. Clean up a few things and it was a W, easy. They have to realize that these other teams might be better than the mess of the first three teams we played. We played all three of them at their rock bottom. These other P12 teams are bad, but they will not be at their worst and we actually have to pay attention.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Jan 19, 2019 18:41:27 GMT -8
The pbp reads SThompson missed free throw, then a series of O rebounds by Kelly and Tres followed by 5! Missed layups. I didn't see Jo Grymek in the boxscore sorry, that was mean.
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Post by albanianbeav on Jan 19, 2019 18:48:08 GMT -8
Not the end of the world (or tournament chances). This was bound to be a tough road game. Clean up a few things and it was a W, easy. They have to realize that these other teams might be better than the mess of the first three teams we played. We played all three of them at their rock bottom. These other P12 teams are bad, but they will not be at their worst and we actually have to pay attention. So you are saying there’s a chance.....You have confidence that we are going to clean up the stuff that cost us winnable games in the ooc, cost us these two, and have plagued us the last three seasons and completely change our identity? I’ll try to go there with you, but I fear more of the same. Some wins are ahead for us for sure, but I’ve grown accustomed to the head scratching losses. We should be better than both those teams we played this weekend. We should have at least split. This team is underachieving. They need an on the floor leader with some heart that does not allow this to keep happening.
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Post by blastingsand on Jan 19, 2019 19:02:15 GMT -8
The difference between this season and the last three seasons is that the P12 teams this year are miserably bad. Embarrassingly bad. Gaping holes and weaknesses. Maybe even half the league is in autopilot because there is no outlook for them right now. Oregon St is the most complete team in the league. If they play decent enough, they will win the Pac-12 and Pac-12 tournament. They didn't play decent this weekend for all the minutes on court. Both games got down to one possession late. If they cleaned up it would be a blow out.
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Post by albanianbeav on Jan 19, 2019 19:06:43 GMT -8
The difference between this season and the last three seasons is that the P12 teams this year are miserably bad. Embarrassingly bad. Gaping holes and weaknesses. Maybe even half the league is in autopilot because there is no outlook for them right now. Oregon St is the most complete team in the league. If they play decent enough, they will win the Pac-12 and Pac-12 tournament. They didn't play decent this weekend for all the minutes on court. Both games got down to one possession late. If they cleaned up it would be a blow out. I agree with the potential. Other teams will improve though.
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Post by beaver94 on Jan 19, 2019 19:12:19 GMT -8
I thought Kelley kind of disappeared in the games this weekend. I don’t know if it had anything to do with being his first PAC-12 games on the road or something else.
On the positive side, Hollins played much better in both games.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 19, 2019 19:20:53 GMT -8
The difference between this season and the last three seasons is that the P12 teams this year are miserably bad. Embarrassingly bad. Gaping holes and weaknesses. Maybe even half the league is in autopilot because there is no outlook for them right now. Oregon St is the most complete team in the league. If they play decent enough, they will win the Pac-12 and Pac-12 tournament. They didn't play decent this weekend for all the minutes on court. Both games got down to one possession late. If they cleaned up it would be a blow out. LOL... but they lost! That's that counts not how. They lost because of the same inconsistent play, and lack of fundamentals that are the trademark of this program the last 2+ years (without a steady dominate leader). Especially on the road. If the league is so embarrassingly weak then a split is the least that should happen. But, a very weak preseason schedule doesn't prep for more physical league play. Really only Missouri was comparable to what this team faced in Arizona. This team wilts under physical play. Again... 3 wins had people ignoring what hasn't changed. 3 wins vs teams reeling with injuries, coaching change. Those three will be better next round. The question is will this team ever play with any consistency besides being consistently inconsistent?
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Post by blastingsand on Jan 19, 2019 19:36:06 GMT -8
The difference between this season and the last three seasons is that the P12 teams this year are miserably bad. Embarrassingly bad. Gaping holes and weaknesses. Maybe even half the league is in autopilot because there is no outlook for them right now. Oregon St is the most complete team in the league. If they play decent enough, they will win the Pac-12 and Pac-12 tournament. They didn't play decent this weekend for all the minutes on court. Both games got down to one possession late. If they cleaned up it would be a blow out. LOL... but they lost! That's that counts not how. They lost because of the same inconsistent play, and lack of fundamentals that are the trademark of this program the last 2+ years (without a steady dominate leader). Especially on the road. If the league is so embarrassingly weak then a split is the least that should happen. But, a very weak preseason schedule doesn't prep for more physical league play. Really only Missouri was comparable to what this team faced in Arizona. This team wilts under physical play. Again... 3 wins had people ignoring what hasn't changed. 3 wins vs teams reeling with injuries, coaching change. Those three will be better next round. The question is will this team ever play with any consistency besides being consistently inconsistent? Hey I was just explaining for the poster above.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jan 19, 2019 19:45:12 GMT -8
Good news, WSU is next and is a game to hopefully get some momentum back. That UW game is going to be a big one as they're definitely the hottest team in the conference at the moment. Then two winnable road games at the mountain schools and the Bay Area schools at home so a chance to pick up a good chunk of wins coming up. If we can go 5-1 in that stretch (I'd like to chalk up WSU/Cal/Stanford as Ws but that's why we play them) then I'd feel good still about where we're at. Heck I'd be fine with 4-2 if one of those wins is against UW. Anything less than that and it's gonna be win the PAC-12 tourney or NIT is the ceiling IMO.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 19, 2019 19:53:46 GMT -8
Good news, WSU is next and is a game to hopefully get some momentum back. That UW game is going to be a big one as they're definitely the hottest team in the conference at the moment. Then two winnable road games at the mountain schools and the Bay Area schools at home so a chance to pick up a good chunk of wins coming up. If we can go 5-1 in that stretch (I'd like to chalk up WSU/Cal/Stanford as Ws but that's why we play them) then I'd feel good still about where we're at. Heck I'd be fine with 4-2 if one of those wins is against UW. Anything less than that and it's gonna be win the PAC-12 tourney or NIT is the ceiling IMO. The problem with that philosophy is that if we're expecting OSU to go 5-1 vs those teams then several others probably will too. Winning the Pac12 tourney is the route this team will have to take. Other key teams are getting healthier and more in sync.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jan 19, 2019 20:18:06 GMT -8
Good news, WSU is next and is a game to hopefully get some momentum back. That UW game is going to be a big one as they're definitely the hottest team in the conference at the moment. Then two winnable road games at the mountain schools and the Bay Area schools at home so a chance to pick up a good chunk of wins coming up. If we can go 5-1 in that stretch (I'd like to chalk up WSU/Cal/Stanford as Ws but that's why we play them) then I'd feel good still about where we're at. Heck I'd be fine with 4-2 if one of those wins is against UW. Anything less than that and it's gonna be win the PAC-12 tourney or NIT is the ceiling IMO. The problem with that philosophy is that if we're expecting OSU to go 5-1 vs those teams then several others probably will too. Winning the Pac12 tourney is the route this team will have to take. Other key teams are getting healthier and more in sync. I agree with you on most of that. I guess my point was that if we want any shot at an at-large bid then 5-1 (or 4-2 with a win over UW) is the MINIMUM requirement for this team in the next 6 games rather than laying it down as something we should be able to do fairly easily. Otherwise yes the tournament is gonna be the route they have to take.
My issue with this team this year has been that every opportunity they have had to get an important win they haven't capitalized on. @stl, @asu, @ariz, A&M, Mizzou all could have been that chance and they couldn't pull any of them out. The best wins right now are UCLA (pretty much by margin of victory alone) and @uo. Going to need to get something out of the few "bigger" games we have left.
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Post by bill82 on Jan 19, 2019 20:43:13 GMT -8
From Eggers’s puff piece earlier this week:
"It's a good feeling to be 3-0, but we don't want to be satisfied with that," Tres Tinkle said. "We have to learn how to handle success. These wins should help us be hungrier. We don't want to just win at home. We really believe in ourselves. Now we're trying to bring other people on board."
There's no question the Pac-12 is down this season, with no teams ranked among the nation's top 25. Is there an opportunity for the Beavers to slip in and win their first conference championship since 1990?
"I like the sound of that," Tres said with a smile.
His article is not aging well.
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Post by bennysdentist on Jan 19, 2019 21:47:38 GMT -8
The goal now should be to get a first round bye in the conf tourney, because winning it is the only path to the dance.
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 19, 2019 21:53:22 GMT -8
Second chance (and third and fourth) points WAS the whole game. Chalk it up to ________. We rebound, we win. on the other hand: Starters shooting 3 for 16 from 3pt distance is not going to win many games.
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Post by bennysdentist on Jan 19, 2019 21:57:16 GMT -8
At least hole lost to assu.
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