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Post by hawkeye2000 on Nov 26, 2018 0:01:36 GMT -8
I thought it would be interesting to compare Notre Dame's players to OSU's in reference to their Recruiting numbers and see what the ladies were up against. I included only players that played 10 minutes or more. As you can see, the starting 5 for ND are all 5* top ten players. I think Rueck and his team did dam well for what they were up against. They will get better as the season goes on. GO BEAVERS !!
NOTRE DAME
STARTERS YEAR MIN PN ESPN
J. Shepard F Senior 37 5*. #4 5* #3 Recruited / played for Nebraska first 2 yrs
B. Turner F Grad S. 36 5* #5 5* #2
M. Mabrey G Senior 19 5* #7 5* #24
A. Ogunbowale G Senior 40 5* #5 5* #10
J. Young G Junior 38 5*. #2 5* #11
K. Gilbert G Fresh 14 4.5*#15 5* #27
A. Prohaska G Fresh 12 4* #78 4* #73
OREGON STATE
STARTERS YEAR MIN PN ESPN
K. McWilliams G Senior 31 4*#70 5* #39
J. Grymek C Senior 22 3*? 3*?
J. Thropay F Junior 14 4*#140 3*
M. Pivec G Junior 37 4*#52 5* #26
K. Tudor G Junior 27 4*#42 4* #93
T. Corosdale F Soph 20 4* #35 5* #26
D. Slocum G Soph 24 5* #7 5* #7 recruited / played one year at Maryland
A. Goodman G Soph 18 4* #52. 4* 63
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Post by rmancarl on Nov 26, 2018 8:27:51 GMT -8
hawkeye2000, thanks for posting this. I didn't look it up yet, but you have both Pivec and Corosdale as ESPN's number 26. Prospect Nation, who I think does a pretty good job, had five of ND's recruits as top 10. Pretty impressive. I'd feel pretty good about the Beaver match up at guard, with Slocum and Pivec with just about anybody in the country. Throw in Tudor, McWilliams, and Goodman, and that is a very impressive guard/wing group. I'm high on Corosdale as well, but she has not shown a strong inside power game, which is the Beavers biggest problem this year. Just to be clear, I'm not saying Corosdale is the problem. I really like her game. The tough inside defender/rebounder/shot blocker, is what this team is lacking, so the coaches have to work around that problem and deal with it as best they can. Overall, I think they have done better than I anticipated at this point, but without some changes, there are going to be teams that really hurt the Beavers on the boards.
Speaking of Corosdale, the SC play by play guy almost never got her name correct. He called he her Crowsdale, Throwsdale, and Crawsdale, and I think a couple times he even called her Corosdale.
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Post by lotrader on Nov 26, 2018 10:04:48 GMT -8
I want OSU Coaches to focus, from this point forward, on developing Patricia Morris. She can defend & rebound better than Jo Grymek. We need rebounding & defense as 1st priority, and Morris is better option vs Jo.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Nov 26, 2018 10:15:29 GMT -8
I want OSU Coaches to focus, from this point forward, on developing Patricia Morris. She can defend & rebound better than Jo Grymek. We need rebounding & defense as 1st priority, and Morris is better option vs Jo. I totally agree that Trish should be the focus. Our next opponent, La Salle, is very bad. Hopefully Trish can get some reps with the starting lineup, because it will take time for her to get where she needs to be by March. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Nov 26, 2018 10:18:33 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure the coaches, especially KBF, have been focusing on developing Morris. They are also focusing on developing the other posts. It has been well known since last year that that the 5 is going to be our weakness.
The fact that we have been very competitive against nd says a lot about Rueck and staff. I hope we are competitive in all of our games this year, in the past it seems we lose a few games in blow out fashion.
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Post by hawkeye2000 on Nov 26, 2018 10:37:15 GMT -8
Mancarl wrote :
"hawkeye2000, thanks for posting this. I didn't look it up yet, but you have both Pivec and Corosdale as ESPN's number 26".
This is two different years. Pivec a junior and Corosdale a Sophomore.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 26, 2018 12:07:26 GMT -8
I want OSU Coaches to focus, from this point forward, on developing Patricia Morris. She can defend & rebound better than Jo Grymek. We need rebounding & defense as 1st priority, and Morris is better option vs Jo. Maybe you should write them a letter. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 26, 2018 12:11:48 GMT -8
I want OSU Coaches to focus, from this point forward, on developing Patricia Morris. She can defend & rebound better than Jo Grymek. We need rebounding & defense as 1st priority, and Morris is better option vs Jo. I totally agree that Trish should be the focus. Our next opponent, La Salle, is very bad. Hopefully Trish can get some reps with the starting lineup, because it will take time for her to get where she needs to be by March. Trish has a lot of potential. I hope she starts to show it a little more in her OOC minutes. Is she better than JG at this point in time. Nope. |
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Post by rmancarl on Nov 26, 2018 12:39:33 GMT -8
hawkeye2000, duh! What was I thinking? Thanks for the clarification.
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Post by hawkeye2000 on Nov 26, 2018 12:41:43 GMT -8
hawkeye2000, duh! What was I thinking? Thanks for the clarification. No Problem. Glad to help out |
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Post by beaveragain on Nov 26, 2018 16:16:47 GMT -8
"I want OSU Coaches to focus, from this point forward, on developing Patricia Morris. She can defend & rebound better than Jo Grymek. We need rebounding & defense as 1st priority, and Morris is better option vs Jo."
The last two centers at OSU have been pretty good and neither did squat as Freshmen. Lets give Trish a break and no put that kind of pressure on her.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 26, 2018 17:58:48 GMT -8
"I want OSU Coaches to focus, from this point forward, on developing Patricia Morris. She can defend & rebound better than Jo Grymek. We need rebounding & defense as 1st priority, and Morris is better option vs Jo." The last two centers at OSU have been pretty good and neither did squat as Freshmen. Lets give Trish a break and no put that kind of pressure on her. PM actually reminds me of watching Ruth as a frosh... awkward, unsure... sometimes it seemed as if she would crumble if she left the floor. Remember thinking she's like a fawn just figuring it all out. |
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Post by wbosh15 on Nov 26, 2018 18:14:10 GMT -8
"I want OSU Coaches to focus, from this point forward, on developing Patricia Morris. She can defend & rebound better than Jo Grymek. We need rebounding & defense as 1st priority, and Morris is better option vs Jo." The last two centers at OSU have been pretty good and neither did squat as Freshmen. Lets give Trish a break and no put that kind of pressure on her. PM actually reminds me of watching Ruth as a frosh... awkward, unsure... sometimes it seemed as if she would crumble if she left the floor. Remember thinking she's like a fawn just figuring it all out. I think I've read in a couple of places Coach Rueck mentioning this very thing, how much Morris reminds him of Ruth. That would be great in a few years. Ruth's block shot numbers are so far ahead they look like mis-prints in the record books. She was incredible defensively. |
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Post by lotrader on Nov 26, 2018 20:29:12 GMT -8
I have seen every game, minus the home game we invited all the grade schoolers. I have watched Trish closely. She is already is better than Jo Grymek where we need the most help--defense and rebounding. We need a decent post player by the time the PAC-12 Tournament rolls around in March. There is enough time. Trish can come along way in 90 days, but she needs minutes. Doesn't mean Jo doesn't get minutes. Just that Jo shouldn't get the primary minutes at the 5. Trish needs PAC-12 minutes in addition to OOC game minutes. There is enough time.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 26, 2018 22:40:25 GMT -8
I have seen every game, minus the home game we invited all the grade schoolers. I have watched Trish closely. She is already is better than Jo Grymek where we need the most help--defense and rebounding. We need a decent post player by the time the PAC-12 Tournament rolls around in March. There is enough time. Trish can come along way in 90 days, but she needs minutes. Doesn't mean Jo doesn't get minutes. Just that Jo shouldn't get the primary minutes at the 5. Trish needs PAC-12 minutes in addition to OOC game minutes. There is enough time. As pointed out by a poster after your other thread post, you may be attending but the facts don't match your assessment of these two. Also, in a quick search I also see no data to back up your other point in the other thread of posters, "some of the people who believe we are going to struggle in every game"?? I can find no mention of anyone saying this team will struggle in every game?! |
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