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Post by zeroposter on Mar 26, 2024 12:48:45 GMT -8
Admittedly, I have not done any research on this, but I would wager that, in general, those teams with the best power numbers also have more strikeouts. It goes with the territory- if you swing hard, you may make contact less often. The reward, however, outweighs the negative. More strikeouts does not necessarily result in better power stats (see Huskies), but more power usually results in more strikeouts. It actually does get interesting. Oregon State sits in the middle of the Pac in strike outs per total at bats, but leads by a large margin in runs per total at bats. Oregon STate strikes out a lot, but they get lots of at bats and score a lot of runs per total at bats. Stanford has the 2nd best strike out to total at bats in the Pac, but they have far and away the fewest runs/at bats. Utah actually has the best strikeout/total at bat, but their runs/at bats is far behind OSU. No team in the Pac has a good strength of schedule, but OSU has a far better SOS than most of the Pac. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 26, 2024 13:05:34 GMT -8
Admittedly, I have not done any research on this, but I would wager that, in general, those teams with the best power numbers also have more strikeouts. It goes with the territory- if you swing hard, you may make contact less often. The reward, however, outweighs the negative. More strikeouts does not necessarily result in better power stats (see Huskies), but more power usually results in more strikeouts. It actually does get interesting. Oregon State sits in the middle of the Pac in strike outs per total at bats, but leads by a large margin in runs per total at bats. Oregon STate strikes out a lot, but they get lots of at bats and score a lot of runs per total at bats. Stanford has the 2nd best strike out to total at bats in the Pac, but they have far and away the fewest runs/at bats. Utah actually has the best strikeout/total at bat, but their runs/at bats is far behind OSU.
No team in the Pac has a good strength of schedule, but OSU has a far better SOS than most of the Pac. Arizona, Arizona State, USC, and Washington each have played more difficult nonconference schedules than Oregon State. Arizona has played the 14th most-difficult nonconference slate to date, according to RPI. USC has played the 32nd most-difficult nonconference slate. Cal has played the median nonconference schedule. Oregon State has played a more comparable schedule to Cal than it has to USC. Oregon State definitely has played a better nonconference schedule than the just awful nonconference schedule last year. But Oregon State's nonconference schedule was ninth in the country in 2022. |
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Post by zeroposter on Mar 26, 2024 13:32:54 GMT -8
It actually does get interesting. Oregon State sits in the middle of the Pac in strike outs per total at bats, but leads by a large margin in runs per total at bats. Oregon STate strikes out a lot, but they get lots of at bats and score a lot of runs per total at bats. Stanford has the 2nd best strike out to total at bats in the Pac, but they have far and away the fewest runs/at bats. Utah actually has the best strikeout/total at bat, but their runs/at bats is far behind OSU.
No team in the Pac has a good strength of schedule, but OSU has a far better SOS than most of the Pac. Arizona, Arizona State, USC, and Washington each have played more difficult nonconference schedules than Oregon State. Arizona has played the 14th most-difficult nonconference slate to date, according to RPI. USC has played the 32nd most-difficult nonconference slate. Cal has played the median nonconference schedule. Oregon State has played a more comparable schedule to Cal than it has to USC. Oregon State definitely has played a better nonconference schedule than the just awful nonconference schedule last year. But Oregon State's nonconference schedule was ninth in the country in 2022. I was viewing Nolan’s strength of schedule versus the iterative SOS. My mistake. |
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Mar 26, 2024 14:11:32 GMT -8
Admittedly, I have not done any research on this, but I would wager that, in general, those teams with the best power numbers also have more strikeouts. It goes with the territory- if you swing hard, you may make contact less often. The reward, however, outweighs the negative. More strikeouts does not necessarily result in better power stats (see Huskies), but more power usually results in more strikeouts. It actually does get interesting. Oregon State sits in the middle of the Pac in strike outs per total at bats, but leads by a large margin in runs per total at bats. Oregon STate strikes out a lot, but they get lots of at bats and score a lot of runs per total at bats. Stanford has the 2nd best strike out to total at bats in the Pac, but they have far and away the fewest runs/at bats. Utah actually has the best strikeout/total at bat, but their runs/at bats is far behind OSU. No team in the Pac has a good strength of schedule, but OSU has a far better SOS than most of the Pac. The amount of people that were bashing the lineup for strikeouts always made be laugh. When you’re team OPS is 1.057 you don’t have to worry that much about K’s. Team batting average of .330 helps too. 4 players hitting >.300 with more than 50 AB’s. Bazzana .467, McDowell .446, Caraway .352, Guerra .333. Even the guys hitting below .300 have north of .400 slugging and OBP (which is really good). |
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Post by ricke71 on Mar 26, 2024 15:59:07 GMT -8
I guess the silver lining is that the Beavs 'get to' LEAVE this inferior baseball conference in 2025.
PAC 12, as the season is between the 1/3 and 1/2 point, is currently the 4th best RPI conference. Without the Beavers, the conference would likely be 6th best or 7th best.
The final PAC-12 Tournament in un-godly HOT Scottsdale in late May will be a fitting end to the Conference.
Good riddance!
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Mar 26, 2024 16:21:49 GMT -8
I guess the silver lining is that the Beavs 'get to' LEAVE this inferior baseball conference in 2025. PAC 12, as the season is between the 1/3 and 1/2 point, is currently the 4th best RPI conference. Without the Beavers, the conference would likely be 6th best or 7th best. The final PAC-12 Tournament in un-godly HOT Scottsdale in late May will be a fitting end to the Conference. Good riddance! Agree with this 100%. The Beavs are propping up the PAC12 in baseball by a large margin. Without the Beavers the PAC12 is behind Sun Belt and BIG10. Possibly behind the Big East as well which is crazy. |
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Mar 26, 2024 16:53:47 GMT -8
In all honestly the Beavs probably enter the season as the best team in the west again. If we can schedule up and down the west coast and have a couple strong tournament showings again could easily be in the host consideration again. Sucks not having the option of an auto-bid from a conference championship but we’re gonna have a ton of eyes on us next year from being an independent. As long as we show we’re the best team in the west I don’t think the national spotlight will be dimmed PAC12 or not. Just need to schedule good enough.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 26, 2024 17:23:18 GMT -8
It actually does get interesting. Oregon State sits in the middle of the Pac in strike outs per total at bats, but leads by a large margin in runs per total at bats. Oregon STate strikes out a lot, but they get lots of at bats and score a lot of runs per total at bats. Stanford has the 2nd best strike out to total at bats in the Pac, but they have far and away the fewest runs/at bats. Utah actually has the best strikeout/total at bat, but their runs/at bats is far behind OSU. No team in the Pac has a good strength of schedule, but OSU has a far better SOS than most of the Pac. The amount of people that were bashing the lineup for strikeouts always made be laugh. When you’re team OPS is 1.057 you don’t have to worry that much about K’s. Team batting average of .330 helps too. 4 players hitting >.300 with more than 50 AB’s. Bazzana .467, McDowell .446, Caraway .352, Guerra .333. Even the guys hitting below .300 have north of .400 slugging and OBP (which is really good). "Bashing"? You must have a very very different definition of stating an obvious concern. Wasting over 1/3 of your outs without having a play being made is a huge concern. What makes it more concerning is that has mostly been versus far inferior pitching that OSU will face in the post season 10 Ks per game is not a good thing no matter your OBP/OPS as we've face said poor pitching and will not get walked 6+ times a game in the post season. Pac12 pitching may be down some (we'll see), but will be better than the majority (17) of the 22 games so far. Point is almost (10) Ks per game is never a good stat to see. New Mexico 9 Ks / #196 at 8.1 K/9 RPI #156 Minnesota 13Ks / #44 at 9.9 K/9 RPI #151 Bakersfield 8 Ks / #142 at 8.7 K/9 RPI #271 Minnesota 6 Ks / #44 at 9.9 K/9 RPI #151 Texas Tech 9 Ks / #60 at 9.7 RPI #70Arkansas 22 Ks / #1 at 13.4 RPI #3Michigan 5 Ks / #280 at 6.6 K/9 RPI #143 Ok St 9 Ks / #24 at 10.6 K/9 RPI #31N Dakota St 6 Ks / #249 at 7.2 Ks/9 (24 in the 4 games) RPI #118 CSUN 7.5 Ks / #221 at 7.7 K/9 (30 in 4 games) RPI #66 Utah 10.7 Ks / #225 at 7.6 K/9 (32 in 3 games) RPI #23 Portland 11 Ks / #29 at 10.4 K/9 RPI #46 UW 6.7 Ks /#253 at 7.1 K/9 (20 Ks in 3 games) RPI #96 I see (3) quality teams that will most likely be postseason teams, and only faced (1) "ace". You may consider stating concerns about a glaring weakness "bashing". You may even laugh... until it comes to haunt a post season run. Pitching only gets better hence the concerns are warranted. No said the K rate would stay high or the hitters would not adjust. Folks just said it is a concern and a weakness up to this point. |
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Mar 26, 2024 19:04:43 GMT -8
The amount of people that were bashing the lineup for strikeouts always made be laugh. When you’re team OPS is 1.057 you don’t have to worry that much about K’s. Team batting average of .330 helps too. 4 players hitting >.300 with more than 50 AB’s. Bazzana .467, McDowell .446, Caraway .352, Guerra .333. Even the guys hitting below .300 have north of .400 slugging and OBP (which is really good). "Bashing"? You must have a very very different definition of stating an obvious concern. Wasting over 1/3 of your outs without having a play being made is a huge concern. What makes it more concerning is that has mostly been versus far inferior pitching that OSU will face in the post season 10 Ks per game is not a good thing no matter your OBP/OPS as we've face said poor pitching and will not get walked 6+ times a game in the post season. Pac12 pitching may be down some (we'll see), but will be better than the majority (17) of the 22 games so far. Point is almost (10) Ks per game is never a good stat to see. New Mexico 9 Ks / #196 at 8.1 K/9 RPI #156 Minnesota 13Ks / #44 at 9.9 K/9 RPI #151 Bakersfield 8 Ks / #142 at 8.7 K/9 RPI #271 Minnesota 6 Ks / #44 at 9.9 K/9 RPI #151 Texas Tech 9 Ks / #60 at 9.7 RPI #70Arkansas 22 Ks / #1 at 13.4 RPI #3Michigan 5 Ks / #280 at 6.6 K/9 RPI #143 Ok St 9 Ks / #24 at 10.6 K/9 RPI #31N Dakota St 6 Ks / #249 at 7.2 Ks/9 (24 in the 4 games) RPI #118 CSUN 7.5 Ks / #221 at 7.7 K/9 (30 in 4 games) RPI #66 Utah 10.7 Ks / #225 at 7.6 K/9 (32 in 3 games) RPI #23 Portland 11 Ks / #29 at 10.4 K/9 RPI #46 UW 6.7 Ks /#253 at 7.1 K/9 (20 Ks in 3 games) RPI #96 I see (3) quality teams that will most likely be postseason teams, and only faced (1) "ace". You may consider stating concerns about a glaring weakness "bashing". You may even laugh... until it comes to haunt a post season run. Pitching only gets better hence the concerns are warranted. No said the K rate would stay high or the hitters would not adjust. Folks just said it is a concern and a weakness up to this point. All decent points. However, it’s been proved time and time again that K% and a high amount of K’s for hitters in general don’t have any real effect on offensive performance over a season. In certain situations does a strikeout hurt? Of course. It’s the best lineup on the west coast and definitely in consideration for being one of the best in the country. Good players will make adjustments when the situation calls for it. |
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Post by Bodhisattva on Mar 26, 2024 19:18:08 GMT -8
"Bashing"? You must have a very very different definition of stating an obvious concern. Wasting over 1/3 of your outs without having a play being made is a huge concern. What makes it more concerning is that has mostly been versus far inferior pitching that OSU will face in the post season 10 Ks per game is not a good thing no matter your OBP/OPS as we've face said poor pitching and will not get walked 6+ times a game in the post season. Pac12 pitching may be down some (we'll see), but will be better than the majority (17) of the 22 games so far. Point is almost (10) Ks per game is never a good stat to see. New Mexico 9 Ks / #196 at 8.1 K/9 RPI #156 Minnesota 13Ks / #44 at 9.9 K/9 RPI #151 Bakersfield 8 Ks / #142 at 8.7 K/9 RPI #271 Minnesota 6 Ks / #44 at 9.9 K/9 RPI #151 Texas Tech 9 Ks / #60 at 9.7 RPI #70Arkansas 22 Ks / #1 at 13.4 RPI #3Michigan 5 Ks / #280 at 6.6 K/9 RPI #143 Ok St 9 Ks / #24 at 10.6 K/9 RPI #31N Dakota St 6 Ks / #249 at 7.2 Ks/9 (24 in the 4 games) RPI #118 CSUN 7.5 Ks / #221 at 7.7 K/9 (30 in 4 games) RPI #66 Utah 10.7 Ks / #225 at 7.6 K/9 (32 in 3 games) RPI #23 Portland 11 Ks / #29 at 10.4 K/9 RPI #46 UW 6.7 Ks /#253 at 7.1 K/9 (20 Ks in 3 games) RPI #96 I see (3) quality teams that will most likely be postseason teams, and only faced (1) "ace". You may consider stating concerns about a glaring weakness "bashing". You may even laugh... until it comes to haunt a post season run. Pitching only gets better hence the concerns are warranted. No said the K rate would stay high or the hitters would not adjust. Folks just said it is a concern and a weakness up to this point. All decent points. However, it’s been proved time and time again that K% and a high amount of K’s for hitters in general don’t have any real effect on offensive performance over a season. In certain situations does a strikeout hurt? Of course. It’s the best lineup on the west coast and definitely in consideration for being one of the best in the country. Good players will make adjustments when the situation calls for it. I think it is hard to get accustomed to this new offense because this has never been our style under Casey. Point is run production. UW struck out the side in the 1st inning on Saturday, yet we still scored 10 runs in the inning. Watch the OBP and slugging pct., that’s a better indicator of our offense. |
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Post by easyheat on Mar 26, 2024 19:33:21 GMT -8
Early on most of the "one-one" discussion centered around Travis Bazzana, Nick Kurtz (Wake Forest), J.J. Wetherholt (West Virginia), and Jac Caglianone (Florida). Now the conversation seems to be more about Bazzana and Georgia's Charlie Condon.
Condon is 6'6" and plays 3B and the OF for the Bulldogs.
Both players are on their way to record setting years.
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