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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 25, 2024 13:38:07 GMT -8
Yeah I think the above is unlikely. We will expand tourney season but getting teams to come to Corvallis to try to steal an RPI boost shouldn't be hard. It's even better for the former P12 since it won't affect conference results a lick. With ex-PAC12 schools moving into higher RPI conferences I doubt anyone will want to come to Corvallis for a non-conference series. Cal/Stanford moving to ACC. Oregon/UW/USC/UCLA to BIG10. ASU/UA moving to BIG12. They could easily just sit there and say come to us. Not saying some won’t want to come to Corvallis but I would have to think we are on the road a good amount next year. Especially if we want to build a good enough schedule to host. There will be off weeks, though. Some ACC teams have off weeks, where they do not play ACC teams. The Big Ten has an odd number of teams, meaning that there will be at least one Big Ten team needing to schedule a series each week. Hopefully, we get a series against Wazzu, and a series against Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington on their off weeks. If Cal or Stanford get an off week, they should be scheduled. (Especially Cal. If Stanford is available, as well Stanford. But try and schedule Cal.) If Arizona, Arizona State, or Utah get an off week, they should be scheduled as well. Otherwise, try and schedule the Big West team with a weekend off. Failing that, Mountain West. And failing that, WAC. |
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Mar 25, 2024 14:00:33 GMT -8
With ex-PAC12 schools moving into higher RPI conferences I doubt anyone will want to come to Corvallis for a non-conference series. Cal/Stanford moving to ACC. Oregon/UW/USC/UCLA to BIG10. ASU/UA moving to BIG12. They could easily just sit there and say come to us. Not saying some won’t want to come to Corvallis but I would have to think we are on the road a good amount next year. Especially if we want to build a good enough schedule to host. There will be off weeks, though. Some ACC teams have off weeks, where they do not play ACC teams. The Big Ten has an odd number of teams, meaning that there will be at least one Big Ten team needing to schedule a series each week. Hopefully, we get a series against Wazzu, and a series against Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington on their off weeks. If Cal or Stanford get an off week, they should be scheduled. (Especially Cal. If Stanford is available, as well Stanford. But try and schedule Cal.) If Arizona, Arizona State, or Utah get an off week, they should be scheduled as well. Otherwise, try and schedule the Big West team with a weekend off. Failing that, Mountain West. And failing that, WAC. I guess I should clarify my stance. I’m not saying these teams won’t schedule us I’m just saying that we will probably have to travel to them. I doubt a bunch of schools will want to use their non-conference off weeks to travel to Corvallis. Most teams in the PAC don’t enjoy coming to Corvallis in conference. Heck even SEC teams don’t want to be sent here in the post-season. It’s a tough environment to play in. Hopefully I’m wrong but just my opinion. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 25, 2024 14:09:09 GMT -8
There will be off weeks, though. Some ACC teams have off weeks, where they do not play ACC teams. The Big Ten has an odd number of teams, meaning that there will be at least one Big Ten team needing to schedule a series each week. Hopefully, we get a series against Wazzu, and a series against Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington on their off weeks. If Cal or Stanford get an off week, they should be scheduled. (Especially Cal. If Stanford is available, as well Stanford. But try and schedule Cal.) If Arizona, Arizona State, or Utah get an off week, they should be scheduled as well. Otherwise, try and schedule the Big West team with a weekend off. Failing that, Mountain West. And failing that, WAC. I guess I should clarify my stance. I’m not saying these teams won’t schedule us I’m just saying that we will probably have to travel to them. I doubt a bunch of schools will want to use their non-conference off weeks to travel to Corvallis. Most teams in the PAC don’t enjoy coming to Corvallis in conference. Heck even SEC teams don’t want to be sent here in the post-season. It’s a tough environment to play in. Hopefully I’m wrong but just my opinion. We all will be waiting anxiously for that first post Pac 12 schedule. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 25, 2024 14:14:36 GMT -8
There will be off weeks, though. Some ACC teams have off weeks, where they do not play ACC teams. The Big Ten has an odd number of teams, meaning that there will be at least one Big Ten team needing to schedule a series each week. Hopefully, we get a series against Wazzu, and a series against Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington on their off weeks. If Cal or Stanford get an off week, they should be scheduled. (Especially Cal. If Stanford is available, as well Stanford. But try and schedule Cal.) If Arizona, Arizona State, or Utah get an off week, they should be scheduled as well. Otherwise, try and schedule the Big West team with a weekend off. Failing that, Mountain West. And failing that, WAC. I guess I should clarify my stance. I’m not saying these teams won’t schedule us I’m just saying that we will probably have to travel to them. I doubt a bunch of schools will want to use their non-conference off weeks to travel to Corvallis. Most teams in the PAC don’t enjoy coming to Corvallis in conference. Heck even SEC teams don’t want to be sent here in the post-season. It’s a tough environment to play in. Hopefully I’m wrong but just my opinion. It depends. If we guarantee them a return, they can make a lot more on the gate at that game with Oregon State. I can see Cal, Oregon, Stanford, Utah, and Washington being very desirous to play Oregon State location be damned. I am not so sure that the Arizonas and the Southern California schools will be as keen. But we'll see. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 25, 2024 15:27:53 GMT -8
I guess I should clarify my stance. I’m not saying these teams won’t schedule us I’m just saying that we will probably have to travel to them. I doubt a bunch of schools will want to use their non-conference off weeks to travel to Corvallis. Most teams in the PAC don’t enjoy coming to Corvallis in conference. Heck even SEC teams don’t want to be sent here in the post-season. It’s a tough environment to play in. Hopefully I’m wrong but just my opinion. It depends. If we guarantee them a return, they can make a lot more on the gate at that game with Oregon State. I can see Cal, Oregon, Stanford, Utah, and Washington being very desirous to play Oregon State location be damned. I am not so sure that the Arizonas and the Southern California schools will be as keen. But we'll see. Yeah if they can do the trip for free ADs might insist! That said I don't know if we're really in a position to pay people to play us. Atleast not until the CWS payouts are renegotiated and we win 15 NC in a row. |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 25, 2024 15:41:32 GMT -8
Scheduling former Pac12 teams will not be easy. Each BYE weekend will have to "fit" with other games OSU and WSU have scheduled. And, as mentioned the only way that you get a 3-game series is in a weekend. How many of those team will travel on their BYE? I can't remember a year where OSU traveled on it's Pac12 BYE weekend? Plus NC BYE weekends aren't typically great teams that will tax your teams... it is better than practice, but a bit of a break from your tough games. If I'm scheduling I take WSU over OSU just for that reason.
You may be lucky to get a weekday 2-game set... but OSU will not get all (10) former conference members to schedule their BYE weekends with OSU, let alone travel to Goss. They will not need to... no need to waste the $, no reason to travel when they have tons of teams willing to fill those weekends for a home series, and they will not need an RPI life being in solid conferences. Oregon isn't going to play again at Goss next year, you may schedule WSU a home/away series for (6) games, after the exodus who thinks any of those teams will do OSU any favors, let alone get their arse beat?!
We will all see what it looks like, but I'm guessing OSU will have to seriously upgrade Surprise, get an invite back to Texas, and do a lot of traveling to get maybe (5) BYE weekend series with former Pac12 members??
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 25, 2024 20:42:26 GMT -8
It depends. If we guarantee them a return, they can make a lot more on the gate at that game with Oregon State. I can see Cal, Oregon, Stanford, Utah, and Washington being very desirous to play Oregon State location be damned. I am not so sure that the Arizonas and the Southern California schools will be as keen. But we'll see. Yeah if they can do the trip for free ADs might insist! That said I don't know if we're really in a position to pay people to play us. Atleast not until the CWS payouts are renegotiated and we win 15 NC in a row. Unless it is a home-and-home or two-for-one deal, Oregon State pays teams to play in Corvallis, just like football. Though, the guarantees are not as high, obviously. |
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Post by messi on Mar 26, 2024 6:49:59 GMT -8
Scheduling former Pac12 teams will not be easy. Each BYE weekend will have to "fit" with other games OSU and WSU have scheduled. And, as mentioned the only way that you get a 3-game series is in a weekend. How many of those team will travel on their BYE? I can't remember a year where OSU traveled on it's Pac12 BYE weekend? Plus NC BYE weekends aren't typically great teams that will tax your teams... it is better than practice, but a bit of a break from your tough games. If I'm scheduling I take WSU over OSU just for that reason. You may be lucky to get a weekday 2-game set... but OSU will not get all (10) former conference members to schedule their BYE weekends with OSU, let alone travel to Goss. They will not need to... no need to waste the $, no reason to travel when they have tons of teams willing to fill those weekends for a home series, and they will not need an RPI life being in solid conferences. Oregon isn't going to play again at Goss next year, you may schedule WSU a home/away series for (6) games, after the exodus who thinks any of those teams will do OSU any favors, let alone get their arse beat?! We will all see what it looks like, but I'm guessing OSU will have to seriously upgrade Surprise, get an invite back to Texas, and do a lot of traveling to get maybe (5) BYE weekend series with former Pac12 members?? 2021 at UC-Irvine 2020 at Oklahoma State had it been played 2018 at Missouri State 2013 at San Diego 2004 at Sacramento State 2001 at Hawaii That is all I could find |
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Post by messi on Mar 26, 2024 7:00:21 GMT -8
All these teams leaving only get ONE bye weekend. I'm sure Washington State would object that Oregon State should be Washington's bye weekend opponent, likewise Oregon State objecting to Washington State scheduling o on their bye weekend. The only way I see the Beavers facing the Huskies in the future, will be in early March, otherwise it'll just be a two game mid-week series later in the season. The way I see it, the Civil War and Apple Cup series should be o's and Washington's bye weekends respectively. If the Bay Area schools are willing to travel up here, then Cal and Stanford are split between OSU and WSU, and later switched after a home-and-home is complete, and this cycle repeats.
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Post by beaverboilermaker on Mar 26, 2024 7:43:10 GMT -8
All these teams leaving only get ONE bye weekend. I'm sure Washington State would object that Oregon State should be Washington's bye weekend opponent, likewise Oregon State objecting to Washington State scheduling o on their bye weekend. The only way I see the Beavers facing the Huskies in the future, will be in early March, otherwise it'll just be a two game mid-week series later in the season. The way I see it, the Civil War and Apple Cup series should be o's and Washington's bye weekends respectively. If the Bay Area schools are willing to travel up here, then Cal and Stanford are split between OSU and WSU, and later switched after a home-and-home is complete, and this cycle repeats. Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought WSU baseball has an agreement to be in the WCC, which would leave them with maybe 1 bye week once conference games start. So wouldn’t their bye only allow them to play 1 other former PAC team? And only if the byes match up? I think it far more likely the Cougs use their WCC bye to play OSU, and the Beavs get to schedule home-and-home series with any others that are willing. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 26, 2024 7:52:00 GMT -8
Seems like our schedule is going to have to be padded out with a bunch of lower division series. That doesn't really bother me much as some of those teams would be #2 in the P12 this year. Those teams are also going to be much hungrier for RPI boost as many of them have to win their conference to get into the play offs. Even some quality losses would help them out.
It will be weird for awhile but well make it work.
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Post by messi on Mar 26, 2024 7:52:10 GMT -8
All these teams leaving only get ONE bye weekend. I'm sure Washington State would object that Oregon State should be Washington's bye weekend opponent, likewise Oregon State objecting to Washington State scheduling o on their bye weekend. The only way I see the Beavers facing the Huskies in the future, will be in early March, otherwise it'll just be a two game mid-week series later in the season. The way I see it, the Civil War and Apple Cup series should be o's and Washington's bye weekends respectively. If the Bay Area schools are willing to travel up here, then Cal and Stanford are split between OSU and WSU, and later switched after a home-and-home is complete, and this cycle repeats. Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought WSU baseball has an agreement to be in the WCC, which would leave them with maybe 1 bye week once conference games start. So wouldn’t their bye only allow them to play 1 other former PAC team? And only if the byes match up? I think it far more likely the Cougs use their WCC bye to play OSU, and the Beavs get to schedule home-and-home series with any others that are willing. I haven't seen anything about WSU baseball going to the WCC. As far as I know, they're on the independent track like OSU. |
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Mar 26, 2024 10:39:33 GMT -8
Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought WSU baseball has an agreement to be in the WCC, which would leave them with maybe 1 bye week once conference games start. So wouldn’t their bye only allow them to play 1 other former PAC team? And only if the byes match up? I think it far more likely the Cougs use their WCC bye to play OSU, and the Beavs get to schedule home-and-home series with any others that are willing. I haven't seen anything about WSU baseball going to the WCC. As far as I know, they're on the independent track like OSU. I have heard through the grapevine that WSU will not be perusing an independent schedule. |
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Post by tamatrix on Mar 26, 2024 10:53:56 GMT -8
WSU not going independent, likely WCC
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 26, 2024 11:33:56 GMT -8
If Wazzu joins the West Coast Conference in baseball, the West Coast Conference would have 10 teams. It is currently unknown how those West Coast Conference schedules would work. But we may not have to worry about Wazzu's bye weekend.
If Oregon State and Wazzu both go independent, they would be fighting each other for former Pac-12 bye weekends.
If Wazzu joins the West Coast Conference, Oregon State would have a lot better chance at putting together a schedule that looks more like the ones that we have had over the past decade.
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