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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 15, 2024 19:31:41 GMT -8
They don’t throw as hard because you can’t from that arm slot. You just don’t have the leverage. But yes, that style is nasty on the elbow. That’s why you don’t see a lot of pros that throw that way, in addition to the lack of velocity from that style. Joe Smith, who pitched for Wright State when they were here in 2006 at the regional, recently retired. He was the most veteran of the submarine style, with 866 lifetime appearances from 2007-2022 (he sat out 2020). Once in a while one of them sticks for a few years, but there’s not a lot of them. They’re going the way of the knuckleballer. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 15, 2024 19:38:10 GMT -8
Joe Smith, who pitched for Wright State when they were here in 2006 at the regional, recently retired. He was the most veteran of the submarine style, with 866 lifetime appearances from 2007-2022 (he sat out 2020). Once in a while one of them sticks for a few years, but there’s not a lot of them. They’re going the way of the knuckleballer. Chad Bradford of Moneyball fame is another who threw from a very low arm angle. |
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Post by ag87 on Mar 15, 2024 19:45:38 GMT -8
I think a few will always be around. As a hitter, if you face a submariner a few times a month, it's difficult. If you see it every other day, you start crushing it.
I'm remembering Quisenberry and Kent Tekulve.
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Post by tamatrix on Mar 15, 2024 20:14:13 GMT -8
I think a few will always be around. As a hitter, if you face a submariner a few times a month, it's difficult. If you see it every other day, you start crushing it. I'm remembering Quisenberry and Kent Tekulve. Ha...Tekulve! Just saw this posted yesterday! |
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Post by BeaverG20 on Mar 15, 2024 20:14:13 GMT -8
Ohtani is amazing. He is also 2 TJ surgeries in. Hideo Nomo was average. 20 WAR over 12 seasons with an average season of 13-12 with 4.25 Era is decent, but not amazing. We will see how Yoshinobu Yamamoto does, and I hope he does amazing. Until I see a Japanese player come over here and have anything close to a border line HOF career like Johan Santana or many others, I'll assume that though the Japanese pitching style is different, it isn't better. But I wasn’t claiming it was better, just that they work pitchers harder and have fewer issues. Which might be worth looking into. Fair. I was trying to respond while at my son's baseball practice, so I may have lost a little due to lack of focus. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 15, 2024 21:52:10 GMT -8
Joe Smith, who pitched for Wright State when they were here in 2006 at the regional, recently retired. He was the most veteran of the submarine style, with 866 lifetime appearances from 2007-2022 (he sat out 2020). Once in a while one of them sticks for a few years, but there’s not a lot of them. They’re going the way of the knuckleballer. I think that the only knuckleballer right now is Matt Waldron (Nebraska '19). Waldron threw against Oregon State four times in three years at Nebraska. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 15, 2024 22:16:06 GMT -8
They don’t throw as hard because you can’t from that arm slot. You just don’t have the leverage. But yes, that style is nasty on the elbow. That’s why you don’t see a lot of pros that throw that way, in addition to the lack of velocity from that style. Joe Smith, who pitched for Wright State when they were here in 2006 at the regional, recently retired. He was the most veteran of the submarine style, with 866 lifetime appearances from 2007-2022 (he sat out 2020). Oregon State led Wright State 3-0 in the fifth, but Wright State came back to score two in the fifth and one in the sixth to knot it up. Smith came on and retired the next eight batters in order. With the score still 3-3, Smith plunked Tyler Graham with two outs in the eighth. Graham then stole second, and Smith intentionally walked Scott Santschi. Rather than pull Smith for someone else, Smith was allowed to pitch to Chris Kunda for a second time, and Kunda hit a bases-clearing double. Darwin Barney looked like he was about to break it open with a base hit, but Kunda was gunned down at the plate. Eddie Kunz gave up a walk to start the ninth but retired the next three in order to pick up the win. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 16, 2024 5:38:26 GMT -8
Well, we got away with it so far. Hoping Kmatz is on today and Segura keeps his impressive form.
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