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Post by beavs6 on Jul 3, 2020 3:12:23 GMT -8
Nope. Meant what I said. Shame so few know what I'm referencing. Little help? To be honest irimi, it does not meet your political agenda...but you asked. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/30/us/tulsa-oklahoma-police-dead-traffic-stop-shooting/index.htmlBe honest. Had you heard?(rhetorical question and "you" meant for each individual reading) Hardly a mention on any news feeds. No outrage or protesting on the Officers behalf. No building near where this occurred burned down or business vandalized and looted. I guess they were just doing their jobs(I'm not sure what slanderous adjectives should be added around the word jobs). Oh well, we(society) at least took down a 100 year old statue of an elk. (Let the flogging of beavs6 begin)
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Post by TheGlove on Jul 3, 2020 5:15:22 GMT -8
I hope the nation’s police will someday be able to be free of their oppression.
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Post by TheGlove on Jul 3, 2020 5:23:14 GMT -8
To be honest irimi, it does not meet your political agenda...but you asked. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/30/us/tulsa-oklahoma-police-dead-traffic-stop-shooting/index.htmlBe honest. Had you heard?(rhetorical question and "you" meant for each individual reading) Hardly a mention on any news feeds. No outrage or protesting on the Officers behalf. No building near where this occurred burned down or business vandalized and looted. I guess they were just doing their jobs(I'm not sure what slanderous adjectives should be added around the word jobs). Oh well, we(society) at least took down a 100 year old statue of an elk. (Let the flogging of beavs6 begin) You ok man?
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Post by TheGlove on Jul 3, 2020 5:27:36 GMT -8
I hope the nation’s police will someday be able to be free of their oppression. Long night for you?
Slept great, thanks for asking.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Jul 3, 2020 5:38:07 GMT -8
Presymptomatic isn't asymptomatic. right there in the headline...Presymptomatic & asymptomatic granted I didn't give it a good read. Glanced at it moved on. But it's CDC. They know stuff. Also the very first Google result. I'm guessing there are more reports, articles & blurbs. I didn't see a source on your quote though
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Post by oldbeav on Jul 3, 2020 5:52:34 GMT -8
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Post by irimi on Jul 3, 2020 6:46:51 GMT -8
To be honest irimi, it does not meet your political agenda...but you asked. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/30/us/tulsa-oklahoma-police-dead-traffic-stop-shooting/index.htmlBe honest. Had you heard?(rhetorical question and "you" meant for each individual reading) Hardly a mention on any news feeds. No outrage or protesting on the Officers behalf. No building near where this occurred burned down or business vandalized and looted. I guess they were just doing their jobs(I'm not sure what slanderous adjectives should be added around the word jobs). Oh well, we(society) at least took down a 100 year old statue of an elk. (Let the flogging of beavs6 begin) No, I had not heard. But I wonder if the folks in Oklahoma heard about the State Police incident in Corvallis. I'm sure that if a trooper had been gunned down in Oregon, we all would have heard it. And no one has said that all cops are bad. This sort of reminds me of the trouble in the Catholic church. No one says that all priests are pedophiles. If they were, it sure would be easy to clean up because no one would support them and they would all deserve their punishment. Instead, it is the institution that has allowed abuse to continue by turning a blind eye to justice. Whether you meant to or not, you are implying that the news should focus on these good cops, the ones who die in the line of duty, and downplay these cops that disregard state mandates and disrespect the public. In essence, you want to turn a blind eye to the injustice just as the parishioners want to believe that their priest is above diddling the altar boys. As for the elk, I have nothing to say. Yes, the confederate statues need(ed) to be removed. But some of the others, I might not agree with completely.
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Post by irimi on Jul 3, 2020 7:42:57 GMT -8
As for the elk, I have nothing to say. Yes, the confederate statues need(ed) to be removed. But some of the others, I might not agree with completely. 1) Of course you don't. No surprise there.
2) Not completely? Just 90%? Even though no relevance, whatsoever.
What burns you up so much about the statues being removed? It burns you because it is a symbolic act by the youth. They are symbolically tearing down the institution: Columbus, Jefferson, Washington. They are signaling the end of an era. It’s beautiful, if you aren’t stuck in the past. These men will always have their place in history, so there is no fear of them being forgotten. Their images and/or names are scattered throughout American culture. So why do you get upset at the removal of the statues? Because change is coming and it scares you.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jul 3, 2020 9:59:09 GMT -8
To be honest irimi, it does not meet your political agenda...but you asked. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/30/us/tulsa-oklahoma-police-dead-traffic-stop-shooting/index.htmlBe honest. Had you heard?(rhetorical question and "you" meant for each individual reading) Hardly a mention on any news feeds. No outrage or protesting on the Officers behalf. No building near where this occurred burned down or business vandalized and looted. I guess they were just doing their jobs(I'm not sure what slanderous adjectives should be added around the word jobs). Oh well, we(society) at least took down a 100 year old statue of an elk. (Let the flogging of beavs6 begin) No, I had not heard. But I wonder if the folks in Oklahoma heard about the State Police incident in Corvallis. I'm sure that if a trooper had been gunned down in Oregon, we all would have heard it. And no one has said that all cops are bad. This sort of reminds me of the trouble in the Catholic church. No one says that all priests are pedophiles. If they were, it sure would be easy to clean up because no one would support them and they would all deserve their punishment. Instead, it is the institution that has allowed abuse to continue by turning a blind eye to justice. Whether you meant to or not, you are implying that the news should focus on these good cops, the ones who die in the line of duty, and downplay these cops that disregard state mandates and disrespect the public. In essence, you want to turn a blind eye to the injustice just as the parishioners want to believe that their priest is above diddling the altar boys. As for the elk, I have nothing to say. Yes, the confederate statues need(ed) to be removed. But some of the others, I might not agree with completely. As for the Elk statue. According to the City's history. "Upon its unveiling in 1900 the Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks refused to dedicate it because they considered the statue "a monstrosity of art."" As a 3rd generation Oregonian and 30+ year resident of the Rose City, I've always been amused by that "Elk" on SW Main St. I've seen elk in the wild and I completely concur with the 1900 assessment. Now that the city has removed it for safekeeping, maybe they can replace it with a more inspiring elk to properly commemorate the animals that once inhabited the land. At least one that doesn't look like its about to drop dead of starvation. IIRC, it has been removed from its pedestal by the City previously sometime in the 1990's for cleaning and repair. I remember seeing the pedestal empty for a prolonged period around that time. And my apologies for straying off the topic of "OSP in Corvallis".
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Post by beavs6 on Jul 3, 2020 14:10:16 GMT -8
To be honest irimi, it does not meet your political agenda...but you asked. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/30/us/tulsa-oklahoma-police-dead-traffic-stop-shooting/index.htmlBe honest. Had you heard?(rhetorical question and "you" meant for each individual reading) Hardly a mention on any news feeds. No outrage or protesting on the Officers behalf. No building near where this occurred burned down or business vandalized and looted. I guess they were just doing their jobs(I'm not sure what slanderous adjectives should be added around the word jobs). Oh well, we(society) at least took down a 100 year old statue of an elk. (Let the flogging of beavs6 begin) No, I had not heard. But I wonder if the folks in Oklahoma heard about the State Police incident in Corvallis. I'm sure that if a trooper had been gunned down in Oregon, we all would have heard it. And no one has said that all cops are bad. This sort of reminds me of the trouble in the Catholic church. No one says that all priests are pedophiles. If they were, it sure would be easy to clean up because no one would support them and they would all deserve their punishment. Instead, it is the institution that has allowed abuse to continue by turning a blind eye to justice. Whether you meant to or not, you are implying that the news should focus on these good cops, the ones who die in the line of duty, and downplay these cops that disregard state mandates and disrespect the public. In essence, you want to turn a blind eye to the injustice just as the parishioners want to believe that their priest is above diddling the altar boys. As for the elk, I have nothing to say. Yes, the confederate statues need(ed) to be removed. But some of the others, I might not agree with completely. Holy smokes. Where to start. I guess I'll up front admit I took advantage of my white privilege today and enjoyed procuring a limit of razor clams and then getting a few salmon with my family. Sure is awesome and fortunate to be blessed like I am. You had not heard it. Maybe I think everyone should have heard about 2 officers being shot in the head. We heard about Mr. Brooks losing his life in the ATL. You are so blind by your stance you cannot possibly see good or assume good in me. Maybe I think BOTH sides are news worthy. I find solice in the fact that you have already said you are not concerned with the means as long as the ends are justified. You already admitted to not being very familiar with Christianity, but want to try to lecture me regarding Catholicism...OK. I think EVERYONE should be held accountable for their own individual action. If all police officers are not bad, why condone the throwing of rocks and bottles at all police officers? Whether you mean to or not, you come off extremely cold hearted to equate police officers not wearing masks in a coffee shop as just as news worthy as 2 police officers being shot in the head in the line of duty.
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Post by TheGlove on Jul 3, 2020 14:24:33 GMT -8
No, I had not heard. But I wonder if the folks in Oklahoma heard about the State Police incident in Corvallis. I'm sure that if a trooper had been gunned down in Oregon, we all would have heard it. And no one has said that all cops are bad. This sort of reminds me of the trouble in the Catholic church. No one says that all priests are pedophiles. If they were, it sure would be easy to clean up because no one would support them and they would all deserve their punishment. Instead, it is the institution that has allowed abuse to continue by turning a blind eye to justice. Whether you meant to or not, you are implying that the news should focus on these good cops, the ones who die in the line of duty, and downplay these cops that disregard state mandates and disrespect the public. In essence, you want to turn a blind eye to the injustice just as the parishioners want to believe that their priest is above diddling the altar boys. As for the elk, I have nothing to say. Yes, the confederate statues need(ed) to be removed. But some of the others, I might not agree with completely. Holy smokes. Where to start. I guess I'll up front admit I took advantage of my white privilege today and enjoyed procuring a limit of razor clams and then getting a few salmon with my family. Sure is awesome and fortunate to be blessed like I am. You had not heard it. Maybe I think everyone should have heard about 2 officers being shot in the head. We heard about Mr. Brooks losing his life in the ATL. You are so blind by your stance you cannot possibly see good or assume good in me. Maybe I think BOTH sides are news worthy. I find solice in the fact that you have already said you are not concerned with the means as long as the ends are justified. You already admitted to not being very familiar with Christianity, but want to try to lecture me regarding Catholicism...OK. I think EVERYONE should be held accountable for their own individual action. If all police officers are not bad, why condone the throwing of rocks and bottles at all police officers? Whether you mean to or not, you come off extremely cold hearted to equate police officers not wearing masks in a coffee shop as just as news worthy as 2 police officers being shot in the head in the line of duty. You are the one the brought the OK cops into this discussion.
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Post by beavs6 on Jul 3, 2020 14:32:54 GMT -8
Holy smokes. Where to start. I guess I'll up front admit I took advantage of my white privilege today and enjoyed procuring a limit of razor clams and then getting a few salmon with my family. Sure is awesome and fortunate to be blessed like I am. You had not heard it. Maybe I think everyone should have heard about 2 officers being shot in the head. We heard about Mr. Brooks losing his life in the ATL. You are so blind by your stance you cannot possibly see good or assume good in me. Maybe I think BOTH sides are news worthy. I find solice in the fact that you have already said you are not concerned with the means as long as the ends are justified. You already admitted to not being very familiar with Christianity, but want to try to lecture me regarding Catholicism...OK. I think EVERYONE should be held accountable for their own individual action. If all police officers are not bad, why condone the throwing of rocks and bottles at all police officers? Whether you mean to or not, you come off extremely cold hearted to equate police officers not wearing masks in a coffee shop as just as news worthy as 2 police officers being shot in the head in the line of duty. You are the one the brought the OK cops into this discussion. And? Your board. I'm just a visitor here.
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Post by irimi on Jul 3, 2020 15:06:11 GMT -8
No, I had not heard. But I wonder if the folks in Oklahoma heard about the State Police incident in Corvallis. I'm sure that if a trooper had been gunned down in Oregon, we all would have heard it. And no one has said that all cops are bad. This sort of reminds me of the trouble in the Catholic church. No one says that all priests are pedophiles. If they were, it sure would be easy to clean up because no one would support them and they would all deserve their punishment. Instead, it is the institution that has allowed abuse to continue by turning a blind eye to justice. Whether you meant to or not, you are implying that the news should focus on these good cops, the ones who die in the line of duty, and downplay these cops that disregard state mandates and disrespect the public. In essence, you want to turn a blind eye to the injustice just as the parishioners want to believe that their priest is above diddling the altar boys. As for the elk, I have nothing to say. Yes, the confederate statues need(ed) to be removed. But some of the others, I might not agree with completely. Holy smokes. Where to start. I guess I'll up front admit I took advantage of my white privilege today and enjoyed procuring a limit of razor clams and then getting a few salmon with my family. Sure is awesome and fortunate to be blessed like I am. You had not heard it. Maybe I think everyone should have heard about 2 officers being shot in the head. We heard about Mr. Brooks losing his life in the ATL. You are so blind by your stance you cannot possibly see good or assume good in me. Maybe I think BOTH sides are news worthy. I find solice in the fact that you have already said you are not concerned with the means as long as the ends are justified. You already admitted to not being very familiar with Christianity, but want to try to lecture me regarding Catholicism...OK. I think EVERYONE should be held accountable for their own individual action. If all police officers are not bad, why condone the throwing of rocks and bottles at all police officers? Whether you mean to or not, you come off extremely cold hearted to equate police officers not wearing masks in a coffee shop as just as news worthy as 2 police officers being shot in the head in the line of duty. The comments about Catholicism were not a lecture. And I know much more about it than I stated early. I think, however, that religion shouldn’t be a part of politics, so I was trying to ward off Wilky’s (I think it was) quotes from Scripture. The analogy of the Catholic Church protecting her priests and the police departments protecting their cops is apt, I believe. That’s all. No police officer should die while on duty. Killing cops is wrong—and the system punishes cop killers more strenuously than other killers. We all know this. We all agree that this should be the case. If I lived in Oklahoma and I were arguing that the story about the cops in Corvallis should be front page, then you could say that there is something wrong with me. But news is about timeliness and location. I live in Oregon. This event is more important to me simply because I live here. In the end, we are looking at different points. This thread is really about accountability. Should the men and women who enforce the laws of this state be required to abide by them while they are in uniform, or do they get a free pass? Simple. Can they pick and choose which laws to follow? Can they rely upon the institution to continue to protect them? When and how do we hold them accountable?
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Post by beaver94 on Jul 3, 2020 15:36:20 GMT -8
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Post by TheGlove on Jul 3, 2020 16:42:14 GMT -8
You are the one the brought the OK cops into this discussion. And? Your board. I'm just a visitor here. Read what you wrote.
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