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Post by ochobeavo on Aug 28, 2019 12:20:13 GMT -8
Just curious what everyone thinks. Feels like coaches have plenty of confidence in him from what little I've read based on fall camp...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 12:36:10 GMT -8
Just curious what everyone thinks. Feels like coaches have plenty of confidence in him from what little I've read based on fall camp... Friday, start him in the second half and see how he does. Everything changes at halftime anyway so it's the time to give him a couple of series. That would be my plan but it would be subject to change depending on how the first half ended, where the momentum of the game is and maybe only if the beavs are receiving. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Aug 28, 2019 12:50:36 GMT -8
Just curious what everyone thinks. Feels like coaches have plenty of confidence in him from what little I've read based on fall camp... Friday, start him in the second half and see how he does. Everything changes at halftime anyway so it's the time to give him a couple of series. That would be my plan but it would be subject to change depending on how the first half ended, where the momentum of the game is and maybe only if the beavs are receiving. I'm on board with a couple pre-planned series and just let the flow of the game dictate when and how. Wouldn't love Luton getting yanked right after leading us on a 12 play 80 yard drive or throwing Gebbia out there after we've been pinned on our own 3 yard line after a punt... Seems like common sense or also seems like things CGA would have done. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 28, 2019 13:40:43 GMT -8
Just curious what everyone thinks. Feels like coaches have plenty of confidence in him from what little I've read based on fall camp... Friday, start him in the second half and see how he does. Everything changes at halftime anyway so it's the time to give him a couple of series. That would be my plan but it would be subject to change depending on how the first half ended, where the momentum of the game is and maybe only if the beavs are receiving. "Everything changes at halftime anyway" thinking was used in the 2012 Alamo Bowl. Things should only change if you are on the losing side of the score, and that's probably an overstatement in reality. I wonder how many coaches honestly get together and scheme at halftime? I'd only put Gebbia in if we're down by 14 and Luton's playing poorly or up by 17-21 |
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Post by irimi on Aug 28, 2019 14:07:20 GMT -8
Give the game ball to Luton and let him have it. He's the captain; coach should back him as such.
That said, there are always opportunities when one team is so dominating the score that it makes sense to let someone else get some time. Situations will arise. But I think it's better for a team to have a clear sense of who is going to be leading the charge.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 14:17:03 GMT -8
Friday, start him in the second half and see how he does. Everything changes at halftime anyway so it's the time to give him a couple of series. That would be my plan but it would be subject to change depending on how the first half ended, where the momentum of the game is and maybe only if the beavs are receiving. "Everything changes at halftime anyway" thinking was used in the 2012 Alamo Bowl. Things should only change if you are on the losing side of the score, and that's probably an overstatement in reality. I wonder how many coaches honestly get together and scheme at halftime? I'd only put Gebbia in if we're down by 14 and Luton's playing poorly or up by 17-21 Remind me why that game was cogent to your point? Yeah I remember the beavs had Texas all turned around and then gave them the win at the end. Maybe the qb swapping had something to do with it but it I remember it was a lack of adjustment to their defensive end owning the beaver right tackle that lost the game. I think good coaches make adjustments at half time or at least try to anticipate the second half strategies of their opponents. |
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Post by osulax24 on Aug 28, 2019 14:31:18 GMT -8
I'd like to see him starting and getting game experience since he's going to be with us the next three years. His ceiling is going to be higher than Luton
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 28, 2019 14:54:38 GMT -8
"Everything changes at halftime anyway" thinking was used in the 2012 Alamo Bowl. Things should only change if you are on the losing side of the score, and that's probably an overstatement in reality. I wonder how many coaches honestly get together and scheme at halftime? I'd only put Gebbia in if we're down by 14 and Luton's playing poorly or up by 17-21 Remind me why that game was cogent to your point? Yeah I remember the beavs had Texas all turned around and then gave them the win at the end. Maybe the qb swapping had something to do with it but it I remember it was a lack of adjustment to their defensive end owning the beaver right tackle that lost the game. I think good coaches make adjustments at half time or at least try to anticipate the second half strategies of their opponents. I'm pretty sure that's the game the Beavs went away from the run after building a decent lead. I could be wrong, but I think there was a lot of talk about thst afterwards. |
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Post by jimbeav on Aug 28, 2019 15:06:48 GMT -8
My biggest memory from that game is when a gimped Mannion came in for a shaken up Cody Vaz towards the end of the first half, and orchestrated a drive of all handoff's and no passing plays, and we ran that ball right into the endzone.
Then Vaz came back after halftime and we started throwing the ball around again. I miss Riley more than anybody, but gawd he sure did know how to drive us nuts sometimes....
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Post by Benevolent Dictator on Aug 28, 2019 15:26:56 GMT -8
I want to RS him.
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Post by atownbeaver on Aug 28, 2019 15:38:05 GMT -8
That would be nice, alas he used his RS year in 2018. Gebbia was a 2017 signee for Nebraska, transferring after the 2017 season, when he lost the starting job to a true freshman and because his skill set (pro passer) didn't fit a dual threat Scott Frost offense. year one. Gebbia sat out 2018, using his available RS year. year two Gebbia has 3 remaining years, including this season. God willing he will be a two year starter for us and Luton has a healthy and successful super senior year. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 28, 2019 21:44:52 GMT -8
My biggest memory from that game is when a gimped Mannion came in for a shaken up Cody Vaz towards the end of the first half, and orchestrated a drive of all handoff's and no passing plays, and we ran that ball right into the endzone. Then Vaz came back after halftime and we started throwing the ball around again. I miss Riley more than anybody, but gawd he sure did know how to drive us nuts sometimes.... Well I think we *called* a lot of passing plays in the second half, but it seemed more often than not Vaz got sacked by Alex Okafor before actually being able to "throw the ball around". I looked at the play by play. There were 10 running plays (more if you count 6 sacks as runs) in the second half. |
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Post by seastape on Aug 28, 2019 22:49:50 GMT -8
Mop up duty unless Luton is having a horrendous day. I don't think he will.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 3:03:54 GMT -8
Well I think we *called* a lot of passing plays in the second half, but it seemed more often than not Vaz got sacked by Alex Okafor before actually being able to "throw the ball around". I looked at the play by play. There were 10 running plays (more if you count 6 sacks as runs) in the second half. Sacks, runs, same thing. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 29, 2019 9:56:36 GMT -8
I'd like to see him starting and getting game experience since he's going to be with us the next three years. His ceiling is going to be higher than Luton Seems like Luton would have the higher ceiling, being 6'-7" and all, but maybe Gebbia hasn't hit his final growth spurt yet. |
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